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Wtf is Ollie's half court offense philosophy?

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When was the last time we lost a game by 30 points?
 
Lefty2one said:
Ollie has to adjust his offense to the college game. He's running an NBA offense with so-so high major D1 talent. When we aren't aimlessly passing the ball around the perimeter we run a top of high pick-n-roll and a ton of floppy stuff. We don't have the talent level to rely heavily on that stuff.

Watch how often a guard comes off a pindown, catches it on the wing and doesn't even look to attack - then everyone else stands around confused because said guard is supposed to make a play.

Our PnR is completely useless. Gibbs isn't a PG at all, let alone a PnR one. Plus we don't have a pick-and-pop big man, enough shooters to space the floor or a roll man who can finish. I'm trying to remember how many times we've run a clean PnR and hit the roll man for a bucket inside - I'm damn near drawing a blank.

Our offense looked good quite often in the 2014 tourney, with Shabazz and Boatright making plays, Daniels and Giffey able to spread the floor. Then when things weren't clicking we had Bazz to bail us out. We have none of that this season.
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That's what's so scary, good coaches are supposed to adapt to the talent they have. If you don't have the right guys to run your stuff, you run other stuff. He is getting his butt kicked every time he goes up against a good coach in our league. I love Ollie and want him to succeed but if next year looks like the last two he is in trouble.
 
superjohn said:
That's what's so scary, good coaches are supposed to adapt to the talent they have. If you don't have the right guys to run your stuff, you run other stuff. He is getting his butt kicked every time he goes up against a good coach in our league. I love Ollie and want him to succeed but if next year looks like the last two he is in trouble.
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You're right. That's what good coaches do.
 
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god Gibbs is such DogShlt once he dribbles even once.
 
mike012779 said:
My gf and I call there offense the willy nilly....dribble around for 33 seconds and whoever has it last toss it up.
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The funniest thing about that is that there's a 30 second shot clock now.

And yet it still takes us 33 seconds to get a shot off we get so many dam* shot clock violations.
 
They are literally with them now and uconn can't do anything. Don't even look frustrated.
 
What was the last team that Calhoun coached that had zero NBA talent on it? Ollie can't turn water into wine , the idea he's "done a horrendous job" is a bit hyperbolic... This team is what it is (bubble team) and their talent was overrated by many from the jump (including myself).
 
superjohn said:
That's what's so scary, good coaches are supposed to adapt to the talent they have. If you don't have the right guys to run your stuff, you run other stuff. He is getting his butt kicked every time he goes up against a good coach in our league. I love Ollie and want him to succeed but if next year looks like the last two he is in trouble.
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I agree completely. In both football and basketball it's alarming how stubborn many coaches are and how poor they are at in-game adjustments. With this team, I don't know what to do besides giving Miller the ball on the block more. When your guards are all streaky shooters, can't run PnR and can't consistently beat someone off the dribble then you're going to be in trouble.

To be fair too, JC was really stubborn himself. We had A TON of ugly halfcourt offensive stretches during his tenure. We were dragged into plenty of slow-it-down games that had fans pulling our hair out watching our offensive execution. He was better than Ollie at exploiting mismatches, etc but Ollie is still a really young coach and will have to improve.
 
James said:
What was the last team that Calhoun coached that had zero NBA talent on it? Ollie can't turn water into wine , the idea he's "done a horrendous job" is a bit hyperbolic... This team is what it is (bubble team) and their talent was overrated by many from the jump (including myself).
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Calhoun was coaching against Big East teams though. Ollie's track record in regular season's so far is alarming at best.
 
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tentoes4rings said:
Maybe perhaps like the offense our head coach ran for 4 years in college but can't seem to remember?
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Actually, Calhoun's teams didn't run great offensive sets. But they did know how to set picks and often had point guards who knew who had to touch the ball. But this coaching group seems clueless. I'd love for Ollie to succeed, but I want more for UConn to succeed. I'm not a Johnny Come Lately to my view of KOs coaching. Kevin's teams have generally played sporadic on offense. He caught lightning in a bottle when a not superior team was fortunate to win game 1 of the NCAAs and rode a great guard's play to the NC. He did have them playing excellent D. But if Brimah doesn't save that first game, KO would have been looked at very differently over the last few years. He seems to be bringing a very good class. This team has no chemistry or leadership. Next year has to bring better things in this mediocre league.
 
what is Ollie's half court offense philosophy?

I asked that last year.
 
I'm responding purely to the headline question asked and not reading anything else. That being said, how in the duck are you just asking this now? Ollie's half court philosophy is thinner than Trump on any of his campaign platform.
 
James said:
What was the last team that Calhoun coached that had zero NBA talent on it? Ollie can't turn water into wine , the idea he's "done a horrendous job" is a bit hyperbolic... This team is what it is (bubble team) and their talent was overrated by many from the jump (including myself).
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Most of the teams we play don't have NBA talent either, he is not getting the best.out of these kids.
 
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PcketknfNiels said:
I'm responding purely to the headline question asked and not reading anything else. That being said, how in the duck are you just asking this now? Ollie's half court philosophy is thinner than Trump on any of his campaign platform.
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At least Trump constantly presents as a forceful leader. KO needs to eat more Wheaties, because he is getting KOed. Wheaties for the entire team may be beneficial.
 
You would think there would be some sort of offense when 3 of the coaches are former point guards.
 
TRest said:
Most of the teams we play don't have NBA talent either, he is not getting the best.out of these kids.
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I'll take it one step further. None of the teams we have played in conference have NBA talent. Absolutely no excuse for this year.

Comes down to coaching, like you said. Ollie has been horrific.
 
Lefty2one said:
I agree completely. In both football and basketball it's alarming how stubborn many coaches are and how poor they are at in-game adjustments. With this team, I don't know what to do besides giving Miller the ball on the block more. When your guards are all streaky shooters, can't run PnR and can't consistently beat someone off the dribble then you're going to be in trouble.

To be fair too, JC was really stubborn himself. We had A TON of ugly halfcourt offensive stretches during his tenure. We were dragged into plenty of slow-it-down games that had fans pulling our hair out watching our offensive execution. He was better than Ollie at exploiting mismatches, etc but Ollie is still a really young coach and will have to improve.
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They could try passing. I've seen beautiful offense from Princeton and any number of teams with inferior athletes at every position on the floor.

If you build an offense around guys beating their man one on one and causing the defense to break down, you better have some of those guys. We don't. But guess what? Neither did SMU last night. They used actual ball movement and off the ball movement to free people up for easy baskets. We have four guys standing still at all times...often five. Miller, our great rebounding PF with solid post skills, is nearly always outside the 3 point line. The offensive system is catastrophically inept.
 
James said:
What was the last team that Calhoun coached that had zero NBA talent on it? Ollie can't turn water into wine , the idea he's "done a horrendous job" is a bit hyperbolic... This team is what it is (bubble team) and their talent was overrated by many from the jump (including myself).
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If Calhoun had Hamilton and Brimah, they'd be NBA talent by now. Ollie isn't developing these guys at all.
 
Our offense is the hardest thing I've ever been forced to watch. We pass it around the perimeter until we 1) turn it over or 2) run a pick and roll with 7 seconds left in the shot clock and are scrambling around to try and make a play. And for some reason our transition game is non existent.
 
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When I played high school basketball, we called this our "Circle Offense"... we circled around endlessly and every once in awhile, one of us was tricky enough to do a back door cut and we'd get fed for a layup... Of course, we didn't have the 3 pt shot to rely on back then like UConn has fallen in love with... :-)
 
James said:
What was the last team that Calhoun coached that had zero NBA talent on it? Ollie can't turn water into wine , the idea he's "done a horrendous job" is a bit hyperbolic... This team is what it is (bubble team) and their talent was overrated by many from the jump (including myself).
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I appreciate your honesty about the First Night induced hyperbole - oh no now we need to play against real men - the game is much harder than it seemed.
 
Rico444 said:
If Calhoun had Hamilton and Brimah, they'd be NBA talent by now. Ollie isn't developing these guys at all.
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LOL, AB will never be an NBA no matter who coaches him.
 
TheRogers said:
I'd have to think those stats are padded from pushover teams. Not sure how they measure efficiency.
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Well you would be wrong, they are based on points allowed per 100 possessions with taking into account the opponent to show how the team would perform against the average division 1 offense.

These are not numbers that can be fudged if you play a horrible schedule (which UConn has not). UConn is a very good defensive team, inconsistent at times sure, but overall this season they have been excellent.
 
But that "average division 1 team" is relative as well for each team since it will be based on their schedule. In other words would Stony Brook be that high if it played Syracuse's "average division 1 team"? I looked up the calculation and it's a good metric for the team to track it's own performance throughout the year but to take this number and stack it up against another team in some sort of ranking does not seem appropriate to me.

As for the team, they are good defensively around the 15ft to 20 ft perimeter. Interior defense not so much. Defense behind the arc is poor. The frustrating thing is they have games where they can show lock down defense on their weak spots. They just don't do it consistently enough.
 
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