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Not the worst refs ever, but they were far and away not the best either.
 
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My biggest issues were RJ Evans and Ryan Boatright getting hacked and bodied hard on layups. Lubick pounded them and sent them sprawling. No calls.
Agreed, Lubick should have fouled out by half time. I think it might have been Lubick that caused the Napier "travel" by moving into him.
 
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Agreed, Lubick should have fouled out by half time. I think it might have been Lubick that caused the Napier "travel" by moving into him.

Yes, that was Lubick, but the ref blew the whistle before Lubick ran into him. He saw Napier carry the ball.

The problem is, you CAN carry the ball when you have yet to put your pivot foot down. Bazz picked up his dribble there. And that's why they call it, "picking up your dribble."

But the ref seemed to think picking up your dribble is against the rules. The ref was unaware that taking too many steps is against the rules, but picking up your dribble is not against the rules.
 
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Yes, that was Lubick, but the ref blew the whistle before Lubick ran into him. He saw Napier carry the ball.

The problem is, you CAN carry the ball when you have yet to put your pivot foot down. Bazz picked up his dribble there. And that's why they call it, "picking up your dribble."

But the ref seemed to think picking up your dribble is against the rules. The ref was unaware that taking too many steps is against the rules, but picking up your dribble is not against the rules.
Thanks. Was watching at work with volume low. I couldn't tell when the whistle blew, so I thought they called the step after the initial contact. But still a bad call.
 

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I just watched the 2nd half and the OTs again...

What stuck out the most to me about the officiating was the amount of hand-checking Georgetown got away with on our guards in the end of the game.

My biggest issues with the officials:

-The possession we got the ball back in 2OT with 4 on the shot clock... Calhoun gets KILLED underneath going up for a shot. Ball flies in the air away from the rim and the shot clock goes off, officals call shot-clock violation. It was a clear foul and Omar should have been going to the line.

-Otto Porter, while a gifted player, clearly walked on that last game-winning drive to the hoop. I played it in slow-mo on my DVR, clear travel. But he made the move so fluidly that it wasn't called (much like how players get away with it in the NBA).


Tough game to lose, still proud of the kids.

this is what I thought from my view in Section 114
 
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this is what I thought from my view in Section 114

I thought Omar made a bad decision there since he's usually money on a floater from the baseline, and he had that shot.
 
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How about the foul on Daniels when Lubick went over his back for a rebound, and they both grabbed it at about the same time, but Lubick brought it down and across Daniels' back sort of making Daniels spin, and then calling a foul on Daniels
 

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There was pass out to the wing where the gtown player clearly got away with a hook and the dude nailed the three. It was in the second half I think.
 
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I think this is mostly selective memory. Most are going to remember the calls that went against UConn but many wont recall plays that went in UConn's favor.

For instance there was a play about 1 min left in regulation that Otto went to the hoop and 3 UConn players converged and Otto hit the deck after getting blocked/fouled... if that was Daniels and that happened every UConn fan would be saying that was a foul and the refs blew the call.

I know plenty of Gtown fans who are saying UConn got home court preference from the refs.

Its kind of like if you play poker. You will remember the bad beats when you lost but most wont recall hands that built up your bankroll.
 
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Had a pretty good view, he got hit but it looked like he tried to drive right through the defender, he really had nowhere to go. So I don't mind a no call because if anything, he kind of tried to squeeze in-between two guys when there was no room.

I slowed that one down and it looked like the defender he was facing jumped in to create a sandwich. Seemd pretty clear on the slowed down replay angle. Don't know how the official could have missed it. Any other time in the game that gets called.
 

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I'm planning on re-watching soon, I'll keep my eyes peeled for all of these plays. Sometimes it's easier to see on TV.
 

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The refs were horrible both ways, just horrible.

The only play I hold against them is the Giffey flagrant. They reviewed it on tape, it shouldn't have been a flagrant. It was incidental contact, IMO. It would have been one thing if it was his hand or elbow that hit the GTown player but it wasn't.

Sadly it was the difference in the game. Though the bigger issue was Napier getting injured. He must have been a plus 20 or so on the night.
 

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Like all rules, there is area for interpretation.

The NCAA defines a flagrant 1 as "non-excessive contact with an opponent above the shoulders" according to the NCAA press release from May 2011.

B1G officials ruled no flagrant in the Indiana/Minnesota game. Similar amount.
 
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Can someone with rewatching capabilities please check Rivera-Smith's feet on his three at 51 seconds?

Also, R-S and Starks were hooking and pushing off on offense the entire game. That's nothing new though, happens all the time to our.

I just read that Markel Starks is John Starks's son? Someone in the student section cheer organizing committee was asleep at the wheel. Where was a "Reggie Miller" chant?????
 
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The refs were horrible both ways, just horrible.

The only play I hold against them is the Giffey flagrant. They reviewed it on tape, it shouldn't have been a flagrant. It was incidental contact, IMO. It would have been one thing if it was his hand or elbow that hit the GTown player but it wasn't.

Sadly it was the difference in the game. Though the bigger issue was Napier getting injured. He must have been a plus 20 or so on the night.

Doesn't matter if its incidental, BE refs have been instructed to call flagrants on ANY contact above the shoulders
 
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So I spent a good 20 minutes on espn3 finding the perfect moment for this screenshot and here it is...
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blurry but still appears to be on the line to me. HOW DO YOU NOT REVIEW THIS?????????
 
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Doesn't matter if its incidental, BE refs have been instructed to call flagrants on ANY contact above the shoulders

So a flagrant should have been called on Georgetown?
 
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The good news, with the c-7 attempting to buy the Big East is that PC can continue its tradition of being basement dwellers in the Big East.
 

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Doesn't matter if its incidental, BE refs have been instructed to call flagrants on ANY contact above the shoulders

So Big Ten refs are given different instructions? I thought it was a NCAA rulebook.

Theoretically, if you are correct the Gtown player should have been called as well for the chokehold prior.
 
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So Big Ten refs are given different instructions? I thought it was a NCAA rulebook.

Theoretically, if you are correct the Gtown player should have been called as well for the chokehold prior.

I'm not buying what some people are trying to sell. The defender was all over Giffey and fouling him. If Giffey unintentionally hits due to getting mauled, that's not on Giffey.
 

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I'm not buying what some people are trying to sell. The defender was all over Giffey and fouling him. If Giffey unintentionally hits due to getting mauled, that's not on Giffey.

By some people, you must mean the resident PC fan who is just doing his passive aggressive gloating because a catholic school team beat UConn.
 
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First, Markel Starks is NOT related to John Starks. Secon, even if Smith-Rovera's foot was on the line Porter would have made a 3 instead of the layup. In any event he was fouled when he made the game winning layup.
 

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First, Markel Starks is NOT related to John Starks. Secon, even if Smith-Rovera's foot was on the line Porter would have made a 3 instead of the layup. In any event he was fouled when he made the game winning layup.


First, Markel Starks wishes he was related to John Starks. Second, bahahaha, I can see logic isn't taught at Gtown, but being able to read possible futures, is. Third, you don't want to go bad non-call for bad-non call.
 
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Yeah I did some real half-assed googling with the whole John/Markel thing, my bad. I'm really relieved to know that Porter would have hit a 3 anyway and I can stop worrying about it.
 

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Yes, that was Lubick, but the ref blew the whistle before Lubick ran into him. He saw Napier carry the ball.

The problem is, you CAN carry the ball when you have yet to put your pivot foot down. Bazz picked up his dribble there. And that's why they call it, "picking up your dribble."

But the ref seemed to think picking up your dribble is against the rules. The ref was unaware that taking too many steps is against the rules, but picking up your dribble is not against the rules.
The refs in most every game make ruling mistakes-not bad calls-ruling mistakes
 
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