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Carnac said:
I’m back as promised. Just ate the last fork full of some nasty crow. I’ll follow it up with a small slice of humble pie. How was I supposed to know the Sky would not score in the final 4 1/2 minutes of the game? :confused: Give the Sun credit. They didn’t quit when they were down 10 in the 4th quarter. I have the Aces winning the championship.

For what it’s worth, I did have the Bills over the Rams.
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And Bills Mafia thank you ;)
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Two observations:

1. If Diana had fouled Bonner the way Princess Parker did with 6.3 seconds left in that game and then stomped off the court like that, every blue checkmark and fan on twitter would've lost their minds. But, crickets from those two crowds. Shocking.

2. Kahleah Copper is exactly what everyone feels Sophie Cunningham is, but she get far less hate for her antics.
 
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eebmg said:
As much as any BY'r likes to dump on Candice when given the chance ;), I think she at least played pretty tough defense on Jonquel most of the night until the 4th QI think she stuffed her 3 times and she did try to block shots but was a step slow in the 4th Q

The blame in my mind is mainly on Quigley Vandersloot while the CT guards Heifemann / Williams were excellent.

Still, I can't see CT beating the Aces but at least our Huskies can get a few games in at Mohegan
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Parker defended quite well last night but offensively showed zero desire to take it to Jonquel Jones. In no world should Quigley be taking 12 shots and only hit 1 while Candace only takes 7 shots.
 
Haven't seen the game as the start of NFL was my focus last night. Was following the box score and the game went back and forth as I expected, with the exception of the Sky's 4th quarter implosion.

Can't wait to watch it tonight after reading all these posts to see how it actually played out.
 
bballnut90 said:
Parker defended quite well last night but offensively showed zero desire to take it to Jonquel Jones. In no world should Quigley be taking 12 shots and only hit 1 while Candace only takes 7 shots.
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This has been my gripe with Parker for a while now. And let me say I am by no means a fan of hers. She has the talent to be the best player in the league. She started her career with a lot of passion and desire, and was the best player in the league. But as she’s gotten older, she is very hot and cold, with what appears to be effort. It’s not as though she has a bad shooting game, she has nights where she doesn’t assert herself at all. But yet she still gets mentioned as in the MVP race. Very curious to see if she gives it another go next year. I think she really wanted to win this year and retire in style. That’s why she was so vague about it.

Next season will be interesting, as a lot of older players appear to either be moving on or about to. Lots of roster spots should open up for the next generation.
 
I was doing quite a bit of screen surfing last night, between U.S.A. Open tennis semifinals, Yankee game, Buffalo-La football and, of course, the Sky-Sun game.

Based on the third quarter, one would assume the "choke" was being applied to the Sun, given how they were outscored 18-8 and, in fact, I ventured off to another screen. Like Swiatek in the third set, the Sun kept plugging and once they had traction, it was a done deal. As Chris Evert has remarked, keep plugging and if you can get back to form, tennis can turn around in a hurry. Ditto for hoops

Strangest stat line for me was seeing Allie Quigley shoot 1-12 from the floor, yet have 8 rebounds and 7 assists. Appreciate the effort in other areas, but in "must" games, you need players to do what they do best. And Allie wasn't putting the ball in the net.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Based on the third quarter, one would assume the "choke" was being applied to the Sun, given how they were outscored 18-8
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Why would one base a game on the 3rd quarter?
 
Does anyone else feel the Aces and Sun match up terribly with one another? No idea how the Aces are going to manage that frontcourt rotation with A’ja as the only real serviceable post and no clue how the Sun is going to handle Aces on the perimeter.
 
Waquoit said:
Why would one base a game on the 3rd quarter?
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Don't think that was the point of Dillon's reply.

Take the full paragraph you are referring to:

"Based on the third quarter, one would assume the "choke" was being applied to the Sun, given how they were outscored 18-8 and, in fact, I ventured off to another screen. Like Swiatek in the third set, the Sun kept plugging and once they had traction, it was a done deal. As Chris Evert has remarked, keep plugging and if you can get back to form, tennis can turn around in a hurry. Ditto for hoops."

The way I took it was the reference to the third quarter 18-8 Sky run was to contrast the 22-5 (I believe) Connecticut had in the fourth quarter. Connecticut chipped away and the Chicago experienced their own "choking" in the 4th.
 
eebmg said:
Pretty good night when both the Rams and Sky get embarrassed. :D
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Yeah. Neither team saw THAT ONE coming.....especially playing at home in front of a packed house. :confused:
 
Rblack335 said:
This has been my gripe with Parker for a while now. And let me say I am by no means a fan of hers. She has the talent to be the best player in the league. She started her career with a lot of passion and desire, and was the best player in the league. But as she’s gotten older, she is very hot and cold, with what appears to be effort. It’s not as though she has a bad shooting game, she has nights where she doesn’t assert herself at all. But yet she still gets mentioned as in the MVP race. Very curious to see if she gives it another go next year. I think she really wanted to win this year and retire in style. That’s why she was so vague about it.

Next season will be interesting, as a lot of older players appear to either be moving on or about to. Lots of roster spots should open up for the next generation.
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In her defense, she's 36 years old....she doesn't have the same abilities offensively she did when she was in her 20s. To expect her to be the best player in the league with players like Jones/Stewart/Wilson much younger and more spry, is a stretch. When she was at her peak (2008-2015), she was often injured or unavailable to play, or her supporting cast wasn't ready yet to contribute to a championship lineup. It's rarer to see post players last so long in the league compared to guards who play less physical basketball. Give it 10 years and I don't expect to see Wilson muscling her way in the post and finishing through contact in the manner she does now. Her game will develop and likely become more perimeter oriented and less contact oriented like we've seen from Tina Charles and Candace Parker.

The last 4 years Parker's game has transitioned to become more of a facilitator and a contributing scorer but she isn't going to drop 18-20 night in night out. She's still among the best players in the league and her role as sort of a glue/do a bit of everything player is a major reason why her LA and Chicago teams have been so good, but realistically she hasn't been a MVP favorite in years.

I agree I think she wanted to win this year and retire in style. Has to sting losing like this without putting forth her best effort. Curious to see where she ends up. I doubt either her or DT retire after this year though, I'm guessing they'll take a victory lap ala Bird/Fowles this year to soak in at least one more season.
 
bballnut90 said:
In her defense, she's 36 years old....she doesn't have the same abilities offensively she did when she was in her 20s. To expect her to be the best player in the league with players like Jones/Stewart/Wilson much younger and more spry, is a stretch. When she was at her peak (2008-2015), she was often injured or unavailable to play, or her supporting cast wasn't ready yet to contribute to a championship lineup. It's rarer to see post players last so long in the league compared to guards who play less physical basketball. Give it 10 years and I don't expect to see Wilson muscling her way in the post and finishing through contact in the manner she does now. Her game will develop and likely become more perimeter oriented and less contact oriented like we've seen from Tina Charles and Candace Parker.

The last 4 years Parker's game has transitioned to become more of a facilitator and a contributing scorer but she isn't going to drop 18-20 night in night out. She's still among the best players in the league and her role as sort of a glue/do a bit of everything player is a major reason why her LA and Chicago teams have been so good, but realistically she hasn't been a MVP favorite in years.

I agree I think she wanted to win this year and retire in style. Has to sting losing like this without putting forth her best effort. Curious to see where she ends up. I doubt either her or DT retire after this year though, I'm guessing they'll take a victory lap ala Bird/Fowles this year to soak in at least one more season.
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Great points.

This one section makes me better appreciate what Fowles has done her entire career. True post players are getting rarer and rarer based on the style of play now.
 
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cancontent said:
Don't think that was the point of Dillon's reply.

Take the full paragraph you are referring to:

"Based on the third quarter, one would assume the "choke" was being applied to the Sun, given how they were outscored 18-8 and, in fact, I ventured off to another screen. Like Swiatek in the third set, the Sun kept plugging and once they had traction, it was a done deal. As Chris Evert has remarked, keep plugging and if you can get back to form, tennis can turn around in a hurry. Ditto for hoops."

The way I took it was the reference to the third quarter 18-8 Sky run was to contrast the 22-5 (I believe) Connecticut had in the fourth quarter. Connecticut chipped away and the Chicago experienced their own "choking" in the 4th.
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Waquoit said:
Why would one base a game on the 3rd quarter?
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Thanks for the further explanation, Cancontent....that's precisely what I was after:

Waquoit: I decided to write something because a number of people thought Chicago choked in the 4th quarter. I think both teams had poor quarters and/or were the victims of the other teams' run, particularly Chicago. It's hard to pull out of it when the other team makes a run...particularly when you're pressed for time at the end of a game.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Thanks for the further explanation, Cancontent....that's precisely what I was after:

Waquoit: I decided to write something because a number of people thought Chicago choked in the 4th quarter. I think both teams had poor quarters and/or were the victims of the other teams' run, particularly Chicago. It's hard to pull out of it when the other team makes a run...particularly when you're pressed for time at the end of a game.
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Basketball is a game of runs. Usually both teams have at least one...sometimes two. If a team can put together a run at the end of the game, they either come from behind and steal one, or pull away and put the game on ice. When I predicted a Sky victory yesterday in Chicago, on their home court, I had no idea they would stop scoring with 4 1/2 minutes left in the game. The Sun used a 22-2 fourth-quarter run to knock off the No. 2 seed and defending champion Chicago Sky with a 72-63 victory in a winner-take-all Game 5. Top tier teams just don't do that. :confused: It's going to be a l-o-n-g off season the the Sky players and coaches.
 
Carnac said:
Basketball is a game of runs. Usually both teams have at least one...sometimes two. If a team can put together a run at the end of the game, they either come from behind and steal one, or pull away and put the game on ice. When I predicted a Sky victory yesterday in Chicago, on their home court, I had no idea they would stop scoring with 4 1/2 minutes left in the game. The Sun used a 22-2 fourth-quarter run to knock off the No. 2 seed and defending champion Chicago Sky with a 72-63 victory in a winner-take-all Game 5. Top tier teams just don't do that. :confused: It's going to be a l-o-n-g off season the the Sky players and coaches.
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It will also be an interesting one. Who stays, who goes, who comes in??? Will Parker retire??
 
Geew1992 said:
It will also be an interesting one. Who stays, who goes, who comes in??? Will Parker retire??
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Parker is getting long in the tooth. I'm betting she comes back for a "fare-well" tour like Sylvia Fowles did. The sting and disappointment of losing a game 5 that they were ahead by 10 points after 3 quarters will subside in the weeks and months to come. Come next May, it would not surprise me if she were to saddle-up for one more season. I didn't hear any rumors of her calling it a career after this season, but you never know. She might wake-up one morning and decide she doesn't want to play anymore, or someone could make her a "Godfather" offer. She's got a few irons in the fire for her basketball after-life. Like Sue Bird, she can become an analyst for women's basketball, or become an assistant coach at the college or professional level.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Waquoit: I decided to write something because a number of people thought Chicago choked in the 4th quarter.
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My ol' grandpappy once told me "If it walks like a duck..."
 
Carnac said:
Basketball is a game of runs. Usually both teams have at least one...sometimes two. If a team can put together a run at the end of the game, they either come from behind and steal one, or pull away and put the game on ice. When I predicted a Sky victory yesterday in Chicago, on their home court, I had no idea they would stop scoring with 4 1/2 minutes left in the game. The Sun used a 22-2 fourth-quarter run to knock off the No. 2 seed and defending champion Chicago Sky with a 72-63 victory in a winner-take-all Game 5. Top tier teams just don't do that. :confused: It's going to be a l-o-n-g off season the the Sky players and coaches.
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While I was praising your skills earlier in the thread, did anybody?
 
Carnac said:
Parker is getting long in the tooth. I'm betting she comes back for a "fare-well" tour like Sylvia Fowles did. The sting and disappointment of losing a game 5 that they were ahead by 10 points after 3 quarters will subside in the weeks and months to come. Come next May, it would not surprise me if she were to saddle-up for one more season. I didn't hear any rumors of her calling it a career after this season, but you never know. She might wake-up one morning and decide she doesn't want to play anymore, or someone could make her a "Godfather" offer. She's got a few irons in the fire for her basketball after-life. Like Sue Bird, she can become an analyst for women's basketball, or become an assistant coach at the college or professional level.
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Her retirement is definitely being spoken about. But I agree… she comes back for 1 more year. It will be an interesting off season for sure for the sky
 
Carnac said:
Yeah. Neither team saw THAT ONE coming.....especially playing at home in front of a packed house. :confused:
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Define packed as it seemed that there were more Bills fans at some points, but this could have been camera angles too. Then again, when $ 24K of Labatt Blue gets shipped out, this shouldn't be surprising. :cool:
 
GoChips20 said:
Does anyone else feel the Aces and Sun match up terribly with one another? No idea how the Aces are going to manage that frontcourt rotation with A’ja as the only real serviceable post and no clue how the Sun is going to handle Aces on the perimeter.
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I've been thinking about this. I really don't think the Aces can get away w/ the 4 guard lineup they used frequently in the series w/ the Storm. Hopefully Hamby will be ready to contribute something, anything. Young was able to defend taller players against Seattle, assuming she will start out guarding Bonner, so she'll be tasked w/ a similar challenge. If Gray keeps playing the same way she has been playing, everything else might be trivial. How long can she keep this up?
 
Carnac said:
Parker is getting long in the tooth. I'm betting she comes back for a "fare-well" tour like Sylvia Fowles did. The sting and disappointment of losing a game 5 that they were ahead by 10 points after 3 quarters will subside in the weeks and months to come. Come next May, it would not surprise me if she were to saddle-up for one more season. I didn't hear any rumors of her calling it a career after this season, but you never know. She might wake-up one morning and decide she doesn't want to play anymore, or someone could make her a "Godfather" offer. She's got a few irons in the fire for her basketball after-life. Like Sue Bird, she can become an analyst for women's basketball, or become an assistant coach at the college or professional level.
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Parker has a pretty good gig at TNT as an NBA analyst, guessing she runs in that direction. I don't see her as a likely coach (similar to how I don't see DT as a coach) but who knows.
 
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