WNBA Off-Season

[nwhoopfan]

Oh, I misunderstood all the ramifications. Thanks.

 

[Geew1992]

Huh? I thought she announced as soon as the regular season ended she wouldn't be back in Dallas.

She def did

 

[NycUcWbbFan]

Oh, I misunderstood all the ramifications. Thanks.

Yeah, the carve-out of all two-year cored players, regardless of who did the coring, was the implication # of that passage.

• there is only one way for Golden State to core (one) player — via not-cored UFA in expansion draft;
• as with SDS, Dallas can get something in return for Howard (who Golden State can not pluck).

# Based on what I have read, people interpret that passage as a blanket non-availability of 2-year cored players in the expansion draft.

 

[Dillon77]

Her Hoops Stats Takes a Look at the Indiana Fever Off-Season Situation(s)

....written by HHS Honcho Richard Cohen. Long-story short, Cohen thinks a lot of the Fever's moves will depend on how much they want to factor defense into the equation, including:

• Will Christy Sides be retained (probably yes)
• Do they want to put out a defense-optional backcourt of Clark and Kelsey Mitchell (probably will and Mitchell will probably be cored)
• And what about N'Lyssa Smith, whose (lack of) defense was the main reason she lost playing time and her starting spot.

Do they keep and work on that (she is, after all, only 24) or try to get something for her (same comment)? How about Fegenbale?

There's a pretty good amount of cash available to bring in help. How many depends on how much goes to Mitchell. And, perhaps, if they keep the large contract of one KLS.

The Fever have all their draft choices...

2024-25 WNBA Offseason Guides: Indiana Fever

Our breakdowns of where WNBA teams stand heading into the offseason and 2025 continue with the Indiana Fever

herhoopstats.substack.com

 

[nwhoopfan]

I heard something about Smith removing all ties to the Fever from her social media accounts. I think she's already out the door, I'll be surprised if she is with Indiana next season.

 

[Stagnant]

The dream move on.

 

[Dillon77]

The dream move on.

There are now four openings in the WNBA: Atlanta, Chicago, Golden State and Los Angeles.

 

[Stagnant]

What’s the best job of those 4? Probably LA.

 

[cancontent]

What’s the best job of those 4? Probably LA.

Depends. LA has Jackson, Brink and Hamby to build around. Guard play is a question mark. Nurse and Clarendon were the original starters but that didn't pan out in the end. Simms was great when she joined the team in my opinion, but not sure what her situation is after the season ended.

Chicago have Reese and Cardoso in the paint. What happens with Carter and Allen as they seemed to play well together is the question. Add in Elizabeth Williams coming back from injury and you have some decent pieces.

Atlanta has Howard, Gray, Hillmon and Canada who seemed to play well together. Does Tina Charles come back for another season? And can Amihere get a chance to crack the rotation? What happens with Powers as she was injured for the balance of the season? There could be some potential if they find the right coach.

 

[JellyBean]

The dream move on.

You hate to see a coach lose a job but that is the nature of the coaching profession.

 

[Dillon77]

Depends. LA has Jackson, Brink and Hamby to build around. Guard play is a question mark. Nurse and Clarendon were the original starters but that didn't pan out in the end. Simms was great when she joined the team in my opinion, but not sure what her situation is after the season ended.

Chicago have Reese and Cardoso in the paint. What happens with Carter and Allen as they seemed to play well together is the question. Add in Elizabeth Williams coming back from injury and you have some decent pieces.

Atlanta has Howard, Gray, Hillmon and Canada who seemed to play well together. Does Tina Charles come back for another season? And can Amihere get a chance to crack the rotation? What happens with Powers as she was injured for the balance of the season? There could be some potential if they find the right coach.

Good analysis, but as you stated in another post, there's more to it than that:

• With LA, will ownership step up to the plate and put the resources (mental, leadership and fiscal) to making this team be premier? Practice facilities?
• Chicago. Can the GM bring in/keep talent? Will the practice facility be ready by 2026?
• Atlanta. Ticky tack arena that's out of the way. Is this place going to go prime time?

From an ownership perspective, Golden State might be the best landing spot. Might not win for awhile, but the culture pillars might be right.

Personnel-wise, LA -- they win the PB lottery -- could be in a very good situation.
In Chicago, you need a tough-love teacher (and/or staff). Plus some long-range shooting, who can augment Allen/Carter.
Atlanta? Engage the vets on the team and upgrade the younger players.

 

[GoChips20]

Of the three firings in the league this offseason, Wright’s is the one I expected first. She had negative body language on the sidelines and made unprofessional comments putting her players down in postgame interviews. Atlanta already has some major disadvantages compared to the rest of the league with attendance and facilities, the franchise can’t afford to have culture problems too. The team also had offensive struggles despite having a rejuvenated Tina Charles and two of the league’s five best wings in Gray and Howard. Wright is a pretty inexperienced coach having spent just one year with the Aces before Atlanta, it’s very possible she returns as an assistant somewhere and becomes a head coach again down the road and maybe she’ll have better results.

For Atlanta, I think T-Spoon would be a tremendous fit, but as others have pointed out, Chicago’s offensive sets weren’t great and that’s a problem Atlanta already has. I think the Dream’s roster construction is better to work with though, if for no other reason than that there are serviceable guards.

 

[snlMINAJ]

id like to see t-spoon in LA... i hope tanisha wright or curt miller do not go to GS.

 

[cancontent]

Of the three firings in the league this offseason, Wright’s is the one I expected first. She had negative body language on the sidelines and made unprofessional comments putting her players down in postgame interviews. Atlanta already has some major disadvantages compared to the rest of the league with attendance and facilities, the franchise can’t afford to have culture problems too. The team also had offensive struggles despite having a rejuvenated Tina Charles and two of the league’s five best wings in Gray and Howard. Wright is a pretty inexperienced coach having spent just one year with the Aces before Atlanta, it’s very possible she returns as an assistant somewhere and becomes a head coach again down the road and maybe she’ll have better results.

For Atlanta, I think T-Spoon would be a tremendous fit, but as others have pointed out, Chicago’s offensive sets weren’t great and that’s a problem Atlanta already has. I think the Dream’s roster construction is better to work with though, if for no other reason than that there are serviceable guards.

Agreed. One question I have is whether the current ownership group were the ones who hired Colleen as well. If so, it's going to be interesting to see which direction they take this time.

 

[azfan]

I may have missed it but I didn't see this posted anywhere and was surprised particularly given a devotion for Gabby.

Seattle Storm's Gabby Williams leaves WNBA amid Caitlin Clark controversy

Seattle Storm standout Gabby Williams has made headlines for her sudden departure from the WNBA, a decision that comes in the aftermath of a heated exchange involving comments abou

www.marca.com

Love to have more clarity on the Aces situation in which the LV office of tourism attempted to raise all salaries on the team. Seems a huge weakness in the collective bargaining agreement but my bias toward unions may be blinding me to any positives.

As for Gabby's decision and comments she's completely on point.

 

[cancontent]

I may have missed it but I didn't see this posted anywhere and was surprised particularly given a devotion for Gabby.

Seattle Storm's Gabby Williams leaves WNBA amid Caitlin Clark controversy

Seattle Storm standout Gabby Williams has made headlines for her sudden departure from the WNBA, a decision that comes in the aftermath of a heated exchange involving comments abou

www.marca.com

Love to have more clarity on the Aces situation in which the LV office of tourism attempted to raise all salaries on the team. Seems a huge weakness in the collective bargaining agreement but my bias toward unions may be blinding me to any positives.

As for Gabby's decision and comments she's completely on point.

How are you able to read this? Looks like it's behind a paywall.

 

[azfan]

How are you able to read this? Looks like it's behind a paywall.

I just accessed it off the ESPN app.

 

[cancontent]

I just accessed it off the ESPN app.

Weird. The link I'm getting from your post isn't ESPN. Instead, it's "marca.com" site and Spanish. Will head to ESPN to see if I can find it. Thanks.

 

[azfan]

Weird. The link I'm getting from your post isn't ESPN. Instead, it's "marca.com" site and Spanish. Will head to ESPN to see if I can find it. Thanks.

This link also has coverage of the story . . .

Seattle Storm star quits WNBA in wake of Caitlin Clark comments

Engelbert previously claimed that WNBA players can make up to $700,000 a year, only for Williams to recently insist: 'That's actually not true at all. There's not one player who makes that.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[cancontent]

This link also has coverage of the story . . .

Seattle Storm star quits WNBA in wake of Caitlin Clark comments

Engelbert previously claimed that WNBA players can make up to $700,000 a year, only for Williams to recently insist: 'That's actually not true at all. There's not one player who makes that.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

Thank you.

 

[cancontent]

All of the selections were well deserved.

 

[cancontent]

This link also has coverage of the story . . .

Seattle Storm star quits WNBA in wake of Caitlin Clark comments

Engelbert previously claimed that WNBA players can make up to $700,000 a year, only for Williams to recently insist: 'That's actually not true at all. There's not one player who makes that.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

In reading the article, are we sure Williams "quit"? She's gone to play for her Turkish team which was expected. She also has been very direct about how the WNBA has misrepresented potential earnings. This isn't new information. If she decides not to play in the WNBA again, I wouldn't be surprised but there's nothing here saying she's never coming back to the league.

That's what I don't like about some of these articles. Writers take snippets and then turn it into something else to gain more attention. Williams "sensationally" quit. Really? This feels more like a National Enquirer tabloid piece to get clicks and considering how British newspapers handle news, this is par for the course.

 

[Bigboote]

Oh, geez, not only didn’t she “quit”, there was no controversy (in the original link, not the later one). Some Clark fans made some comments, hardly a controversy.

 

[cancontent]

Oh, geez, not only didn’t she “quit”, there was no controversy (in the original link, not the later one). Some Clark fans made some comments, hardly a controversy.

Exactly. It's lazy "reporting" as an excuse to include Clark as a talking point when it wasn't necessary. The topic of WNBA salaries is an article to itself if the writer really cared about the topic.

 

[cancontent]

Well, this should make some Fever fans happy. The new president is making her imprint early.