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WNBA Finals - who you got?

Who ya got?

  • Las Vegas

    Votes: 10 37.0%

  • Phoenix

    Votes: 17 63.0%

  • Winner in 4

    Votes: 2 7.4%

  • Winner in 5

    Votes: 4 14.8%

  • Winner in 6

    Votes: 12 44.4%

  • Winner take all in 7

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
Is 19 FTA a record for a Finals game? That's a lot. Especially considering she was only 7-21 from the field. Another playoff triple double for AT.

Probably won't get talked about much, but Loyd and Evans gave fairly solid contributions off the bench throughout the series.
 
boontonbomber said:
Surprised no comments here about how Sabally was helped(or not helped) after her concussion-producing injury last night. Plenty of strong criticism flying around about lack of stretcher or even a wheelchair. Very sad watching her being helped(almost carried) off the court. And a pathetic, rambling explanation by the Phoenix coach today.
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I mentioned her injury. I too was surprised she didn't get more help. She was on the floor for an extended period and looked as if she was going to pass out and/or vomit. It was a bit of a freak injury, taking a knee to the head, but it looked brutal. I hope Satou recovers quickly and thoroughly. Was Satou in the arena for Game 4?
 
triaddukefan said:
No biases, but I think she will eventually make the Women's Hall of Fame. Just an unbiased hunch.


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I think her best years are behind her, but she’s still one of the most fearless and clutch players in the league. 4 titles as a starting PG is no accident. I looked back at her 2021 Finals MVP stats the other day, 61% FG and 54% 3-pt.
 
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boontonbomber said:
Surprised no comments here about how Sabally was helped(or not helped) after her concussion-producing injury last night. Plenty of strong criticism flying around about lack of stretcher or even a wheelchair. Very sad watching her being helped(almost carried) off the court. And a pathetic, rambling explanation by the Phoenix coach today.
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My only question (rhetorical) is should he have been the one to answer that question? Yes, he's the head coach but the medical team made the call. Personally, I think they should be the ones taking the heat and explain why when they're supposed to be the certified experts.
 
visitingcock said:
No love for the surprising Fever who took the Aces too the limit?
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In a very strange season, the Fever and the expansion team were incredible surprises and the Fever coming close against the Aces after so many injuries was an amazing accomplishment.

In the preseason I thought the odds given to the Fever were overly optimistic, probably because they had the league's new extremely popular star. After the injuries to Clark and others I thought they would be the weakest team in the playoffs. Just getting to the second round was a major upset, and taking it to the Aces was amazing. Probably one of the best coaching jobs ever by White.

As an Aces fan, what a strange season. An average team thru 28 games then a 16 game winning streak, followed in some ways by a struggle in the playoffs. Seattle and Indiana were much harder than anticipated. more consistent with the term ugly wins. A sweep is a sweep, but Sabally and Thomas injured pretty much killed any chance Phoenix had.

The year the Aces beat the Liberty at New York down two starters was a tremendous accomplishment. Those were two super teams, and Vegas managed the upset very shorthanded. This year it was more like backing into the title. There were no super teams, the two best teams if healthy were probably Minnesota and New York, neither of which Vegas had to play, and the teams they did play in the last two rounds were devastated by injuries.

This year Vegas was very fortunate and this championship team was a clear notch down from the first two versions. Lyod for Plum was a downgrade, and the supporting cast was significantly weaker. Regardless this next free agency period will be wild. Who was good or bad this year may not matter next season. It is almost like every team starting with a clean slate, with few returnees, and most of their cap space available for free agents.
 
triaddukefan said:
No biases, but I think she will eventually make the Women's Hall of Fame. Just an unbiased hunch.


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She's on par with Whalen/Bird IMO for best PG in league history. 4 rings, 5 finals appearances, a Finals MVP, so many clutch moments. She's played lights out in every finals she's been in.
 
oldhusky said:
In a very strange season, the Fever and the expansion team were incredible surprises and the Fever coming close against the Aces after so many injuries was an amazing accomplishment.

In the preseason I thought the odds given to the Fever were overly optimistic, probably because they had the league's new extremely popular star. After the injuries to Clark and others I thought they would be the weakest team in the playoffs. Just getting to the second round was a major upset, and taking it to the Aces was amazing. Probably one of the best coaching jobs ever by White.

As an Aces fan, what a strange season. An average team thru 28 games then a 16 game winning streak, followed in some ways by a struggle in the playoffs. Seattle and Indiana were much harder than anticipated. more consistent with the term ugly wins. A sweep is a sweep, but Sabally and Thomas injured pretty much killed any chance Phoenix had.

The year the Aces beat the Liberty at New York down two starters was a tremendous accomplishment. Those were two super teams, and Vegas managed the upset very shorthanded. This year it was more like backing into the title. There were no super teams, the two best teams if healthy were probably Minnesota and New York, neither of which Vegas had to play, and the teams they did play in the last two rounds were devastated by injuries.

This year Vegas was very fortunate and this championship team was a clear notch down from the first two versions. Lyod for Plum was a downgrade, and the supporting cast was significantly weaker. Regardless this next free agency period will be wild. Who was good or bad this year may not matter next season. It is almost like every team starting with a clean slate, with few returnees, and most of their cap space available for free agents.
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Eh, I don't think it's fair to say they backed into a title when they finished the year going 25-3. Sure this team wasn't as good overall as their 2022 or 2023 versions and had a couple of very competitive series, but they were dominant to finish the season and the very deserving champion.

They relied more heavily on their big 3 this time, but the 2025 playoff edition of Jackie Young and A'ja Wilson were both clearly better than the 2022 or 2023 versions. You're also selling the supporting cast short. Both Dana Evans and Jewell Loyd made massive contributions and this team consistently went 8 deep whereas the 2022/2023 versions only played 6 players in the playoffs.

As an Aces fan, go enjoy your team's win!
 
I might get flack for this but I just find Alyssa Thomas to be one of the most unlikable players in the league. Horrible body language, constantly barking at her teammates and she's the last one to run over to help one up off the floor. Not to mention a lot of extra and unnecessary physical play that borders on being dirty. Her style of play and on court demeanor reminds me a lot of Draymond Green with both the good and bad.
 
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bballnut90 said:
I might get flack for this but I just find Alyssa Thomas to be one of the most unlikable players in the league. Horrible body language, constantly barking at her teammates and she's the last one to run over to help one up off the floor. Not to mention a lot of extra and unnecessary physical play that borders on being dirty. Her style of play and on court demeanor reminds me a lot of Draymond Green with both the good and bad.
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Absolutely agree. Great player, not a fan in the slightest.
 
GoChips20 said:
Absolutely agree. Great player, not a fan in the slightest.
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I'm not a fan of pretty much all of the big name players on the Mercury. Just not my cup of tea when it comes to their on-court demeanor and team dynamics.

I was listening to Coach White in her exit interview and few other interviews around the playoffs. Quite often she mentioned that this Indiana team was so refreshing because this team had the best locker room in her career, had the "we over me" attitude, and never folded or made excuses when the times got tough. While she wasn't explicitly calling out her time at Connecticut, I think we can all use some context clues and come to the assumption that AT was one of those folks in the back of her mind during these statements.
 
GamecockFam said:
I'm not a fan of pretty much all of the big name players on the Mercury. Just not my cup of tea when it comes to their on-court demeanor and team dynamics.

I was listening to Coach White in her exit interview and few other interviews around the playoffs. Quite often she mentioned that this Indiana team was so refreshing because this team had the best locker room in her career, had the "we over me" attitude, and never folded or made excuses when the times got tough. While she wasn't explicitly calling out her time at Connecticut, I think we can all use some context clues and come to the assumption that AT was one of those folks in the back of her mind during these statements.
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Can we though? From my perspective, personal bias may make it possible to lean in that direction, but other assumptions could be made.

Coach White was the coach of that Connecticut roster. Does she not own some of the culture issues, if they existed in the form you've described? Or could it have been others on that roster while she was there along with Thomas?

Especially after seeing Thomas last night after that injury to her shoulder. Coming back into the game and playing the way that she did tells me, she's willing to do anything for the team she plays for.

I get Thomas isn't most of the board's cup of tea and it's understandable. There are times where I cringe, but I also empathize with her demeanour because I know I've been seen the same way by others, whether I meant to or not. Not everyone will come across in a manner we like, but it doesn't take away their dedication and passion for their team.
 
boontonbomber said:
Surprised no comments here about how Sabally was helped(or not helped) after her concussion-producing injury last night. Plenty of strong criticism flying around about lack of stretcher or even a wheelchair. Very sad watching her being helped(almost carried) off the court. And a pathetic, rambling explanation by the Phoenix coach today.
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Million dollar coach pathetic .....well definitely a much different approach from other coaches earning less.
 
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GamecockFam said:
I'm not a fan of pretty much all of the big name players on the Mercury. Just not my cup of tea when it comes to their on-court demeanor and team dynamics.

I was listening to Coach White in her exit interview and few other interviews around the playoffs. Quite often she mentioned that this Indiana team was so refreshing because this team had the best locker room in her career, had the "we over me" attitude, and never folded or made excuses when the times got tough. While she wasn't explicitly calling out her time at Connecticut, I think we can all use some context clues and come to the assumption that AT was one of those folks in the back of her mind during these statements.
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Coaching play a factor? If not should it?
 
I am glad Satou lost. I don’t like her departure from Dallas. She made first team all wnba at Dallas btw. Made nothing this year with Phoenix.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Players change teams ALL THE TIME. Why are you singling out Sabally?
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Because Dallas bent over backwards last year to accommodate Satou and her desire to play for Germany at the Olympics. Dallas made the final four two years ago. But they essentially sacrificed last season; probably because they were hoping to sign Satou long term. That season got the coach fired and led to a rebuild.
 
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azfan said:
www.espn.com

Mercury coach critical of late ejection in closeout Game 4

Mercury coach Nate Tibbetts was critical of his ejection late in Game 4 of the WNBA Finals, calling it "one of the weakest double technicals ever."
www.espn.com www.espn.com

....."the first coach in league history to be ejected in a Finals game.....it's just embarrassing," Tibbetts said."

Couldn't agree more
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A bizarre moment for sure. Lobo and Ruocco speculated that he touched the referee, but there wasn't a good angle to show what transpired clearly.
 
Stagnant said:
Because Dallas bent over backwards last year to accommodate Satou and her desire to play for Germany at the Olympics. Dallas made the final four two years ago. But they essentially sacrificed last season; probably because they were hoping to sign Satou long term. That season got the coach fired and led to a rebuild.
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Okay. Satou is hardly the only international player to play in the WNBA who has also taken a break due to the Olympics or other international competition though. Or U.S. born player who competes for another country in the Olympics.
 
cancontent said:
A bizarre moment for sure. Lobo and Ruocco speculated that he touched the referee, but there wasn't a good angle to show what transpired clearly.
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I thought it was justified. Even if he didn’t touch the referee, he was T’d up already and decided to further get in her space, posture over her and yell again in her face.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Okay. Satou is hardly the only international player to play in the WNBA who has also taken a break due to the Olympics or other international competition though. Or U.S. born player who competes for another country in the Olympics.
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I am not saying she is. I am just saying as a casual Dallas wings fan. I think the wings treated her great and it was not reciprocated. And I root against her now.
 
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