Wilner (SJ Mercury News) - USC and UCLA planning to leave for B1G

[metsfan2323]

When both Mora and Benedict hinted at this in recent podcasts it was in response to questions about our independence, almost hinting that our status as football independents might change sooner rather than later. I hope they are right.

 

[bobbyinaz]

Could the ACC consider adding ND, UConn, and Tulane? FB only: Army, Navy?

The ACC wouldn't have to consider anything Notre Dame told them if it meant they would join the conference. They would just do it.

The issue with that is ND continues to get away with playing the one foot in, one foot out game they played with the Big East for years and the ACC let's them.

The ACC's problem is that they have desirable programs that will soon be making half of what the SEC/B1G schools will make. The ACC has no choice but to desperately cling to the GOR in the hopes of keeping the conference together. Otherwise, at some point UNC, Virginia, Clemson, Fla St and possibly Miami & Ga Tech start sniffing around just like USC & UCLA did.

Nobody has challenged a GOR yet but, if half the conference wants out does a GOR matter anymore? I don't know but, I'd bet that we're going to see the ACC GOR challenged very soon.

So, back to your original question, if ND hasn't been willing to join the ACC up to now, as it's currently constituted, there is no way they are joining in a time of potential conference turmoil

 

[WestCoastHusky]

At some point, do you think SEC and B1G should just rename the themselves to the following?

American College Football League
National College Football League

They will have regional divisions just like the NFL. Why even pretend at this point?

 

[DFW HOYA]

On today's Paul Finebaum Show, it was discussed that due to the ACC's grant of rights, Clemson will make half the amount South Carolina is expected to make within six years.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

On today's Paul Finebaum Show, it was discussed that due to the ACC's grant of rights, Clemson will make half the amount South Carolina is expected to make within six years.

You bet your ass Clemson and FSU lawyers are looking at the GOR to see if there is a way to blow that contract up right now.

 

[Waquoit]

You bet your ass Clemson and FSU lawyers are looking at the GOR to see if there is a way to blow that contract up right now.

Wake and BC have lawyers, too.

 

[UCFBfan]

At some point, do you think SEC and B1G should just rename the themselves to the following?

American College Football League
National College Football League

They will have regional divisions just like the NFL. Why even pretend at this point?

Not quite yet....still some movement they need to do before they can fully become their dream minor league.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Where is BC going to go? The MAC?

 

[drayenob]

 

[bobbyinaz]

You bet your ass Clemson and FSU lawyers are looking at the GOR to see if there is a way to blow that contract up right now.

As I said in my post earlier, I don't think it's just Clemson and FSU. Are UNC and Virginia going to pledge their undying loyalty to the ACC when they know that with a phone call they can double their revenues? Could Miami & Ga Tech think the grass is greener somewhere?

If that happens it's 4, potentially 6 schools looking to get out. I know we have much better legal minds here than me but, if half the conference wants out, how strong is the GOR?

 

[traitor71]

As I said in my post earlier, I don't think it's just Clemson and FSU. Are UNC and Virginia going to pledge their undying loyalty to the ACC when they know that with a phone call they can double their revenues? Could Miami & Ga Tech think the grass is greener somewhere?

If that happens it's 4, potentially 6 schools looking to get out. I know we have much better legal minds here than me but, if half the conference wants out, how strong is the GOR?

They are probably all kicking the tires on other options. With the money Miami is pumping into their athletic department now, you can be sure they are looking.

 

[Rufus]

Regarding the ACC potentially being raided, do you think the B1G sticks with AAU schools only (with Notre Dame being the only exception)? Or do you think schools like Florida State, Clemson, and Miami might have a shot at the B1G while allowing the B1G to invade SEC Country?

Or, will Florida State, Clemson and Miami only have the SEC as an option?

If you are Virginia, North Carolina and Duke --- would you prefer to be in the B1G or the SEC?

 

[bobbyinaz]

They are probably all kicking the tires on other options. With the money Miami is pumping into their athletic department now, you can be sure they are looking.

That's my point.

Everyone keeps saying nothing will happen with the ACC until 2036 because of GOR.

The GOR may be blown up by next week

 

[Rufus]

Notre Dame Rivals in the B1G: Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, USC (plus the obvious big game non-rivals Ohio State and Penn State).

What happens to the USC-Notre Dame annual football game now? Will it still be played? Will it have to shift to the earlier nonconference schedule? The B1G doesn't play nonconference games to end the season........at least they haven't yet.

 

[Rufus]

Do you think Stanford is on the phone with Notre Dame to see if they would be interested in joining the B1G as 17 and 18?

That lineup would have to be appealing to Notre Dame - USC, Stanford, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue - the five biggest rivals the Irish have - all in the same conference. Navy could be one of the 3 nonconference games for Notre Dame each season. If the ACC grant of rights blows up, the B1G could add additional rivals of Notre Dame to lure the Irish.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

That's my point.

Everyone keeps saying nothing will happen with the ACC until 2036 because of GOR.

The GOR may be blown up by next week

ESPN reported: Multiple sources said several ACC schools have investigated the possibility of withdrawing from the league's grant of rights, but thus far have not determined a financially feasible option.

 

[ZooCougar]

That's my point.

Everyone keeps saying nothing will happen with the ACC until 2036 because of GOR.

The GOR may be blown up by next week

The GOR is meaningless if enough want out.

 

[Skiblets]

What’s crazy is that we keep putting Miami on a pedestal. They haven’t been relevant nationally for 20 years. A small private school that hasn’t won much since Shalala cleaned them up

 

[ZooCougar]

What’s crazy is that we keep putting Miami on a pedestal. They haven’t been relevant nationally for 20 years. A small private school that hasn’t won much since Shalala cleaned them up

And everyone else started recruiting south floriduh.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

John Kurtz just reported on his podcast that the ACC TV deal cannot be renegotiated unless the conference expands. He speculates Kansas may try to join ACC. How about UConn as its partner.

 

[Skiblets]

Do you think Stanford is on the phone with Notre Dame to see if they would be interested in joining the B1G as 17 and 18?

That lineup would have to be appealing to Notre Dame - USC, Stanford, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue - the five biggest rivals the Irish have - all in the same conference. Navy could be one of the 3 nonconference games for Notre Dame each season. If the ACC grant of rights blows up, the B1G could add additional rivals of Notre Dame to lure the Irish.

We’re getting very close to two major conferences

 

[Durks07]

Well, its official:

 

[Durks07]

 

[shizzle787]

When both Mora and Benedict hinted at this in recent podcasts it was in response to questions about our independence, almost hinting that our status as football independents might change sooner rather than later. I hope they are right.

I hope this means ACC.

 

[Rufus]

Big Ten Network is showing USC and UCLA as breaking news and to stay tuned to BTN for special coverage.

 

[shizzle787]

I’m definitely doing a dominoes on this.

 

[Skiblets]

I hope this means ACC.

BIG or bust. ACC will be like the Big 12 or PAC post these moves

 

[B1GEast]

It will be interesting to see who strikes first the PAC 12 or the Big 12. One is going to raid the other

 

[Sportsman5]

who will be the first conference to kick members out? If the BIG 10 is adding teams 2000 miles away just to increase the average TV payout per school, then they have to be considering kicking out members who are signifcantly brining that number down and are redundant in recruiting like Purdue, Michigan State etc. UConn clearly is in the top 50 schools in the country in value while others are still in major conferences.

 

[jostar1]

Also, it's time to get those realignment wheels spinning baby!!!