OT: Will the Yankees make the playoffs?

[methodology]

I'm sure you remember tennis before the line camera too...

Not remotely the same thing. Tennis lines are the exact same for everyone. Strike zone are slightly different for everyone because it’s knees to chest and the black to black of the plate.

you understand with robo umps there’s still an ump behind the plate they get buzzed strike or ball and there’s another ump in booth double checking. There is no need for this might as well have robot pitchers and fielding and hitters just use the statistical probability and simulate games

 

[cohenzone]

The strike zone on tv isn’t the umpires established strike zone that’s why the consistency score is somewhat more important in the umpire scorecards

The strike zone id established by baseball rule. It’s pretty geometric. Umpires making up their own strike zone - and it much more often expands the zone and thus favors pitchers - makes the batter adjust to swinging at pitches they are trained not to (except Giancarlo Stanton who swings at every low outside slider 6 inches off the plate) and the adjustment sometimes is from at bat to at bat. Pretty hard to do, let alone from game to game. But it’s the obviously bad calls that really screw up the batter and often enough turns a potential 3-1 count into a 2-2 count. Can’t tell me those kinds of calls don’t help the pitcher, and sometimes squelch a potential rally.

 

[NJHusky]

Not remotely the same thing. Tennis lines are the exact same for everyone. Strike zone are slightly different for everyone because it’s knees to chest and the black to black of the plate.

you understand with robo umps there’s still an ump behind the plate they get buzzed strike or ball and there’s another ump in booth double checking. There is no need for this might as well have robot pitchers and fielding and hitters just use the statistical probability and simulate games

The argument of robot pitchers is just so ridiculous I’m not going to respond.

But the strike zone is the same. Knees to shoulder. The plate doesn’t change.

You think technology that can drive a car, change lanes and avoid accidents can’t identify a shoulder or knee???

 

[UCTitleTown]

As of today, Yankees would be hosting a playoff game. Red Sox and Mets outside looking in. 1 month ago that was flipped. Yankees are HOT.

The Mets are done. They are 5.5 games out of the Wild Card with 40 games left. They'd have to get super hot and I don't see it. No deGrom either.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

The strike zone id established by baseball rule. It’s pretty geometric. Umpires making up their own strike zone - and it much more often expands the zone and thus favors pitchers - makes the batter adjust to swinging at pitches they are trained not to (except Giancarlo Stanton who swings at every low outside slider 6 inches off the plate) and the adjustment sometimes is from at bat to at bat. Pretty hard to do, let alone from game to game. But it’s the obviously bad calls that really screw up the batter and often enough turns a potential 3-1 count into a 2-2 count. Can’t tell me those kinds of calls don’t help the pitcher, and sometimes squelch a potential rally.

This is definitely true in many cases. It affects pitchers as well. The one example thar I still remember clearly was the only bad outing game Ohtani pitched against the Yankees (I watch alot of Angels games) where he gave up 7 runs (3 of them was sent in by Sledger the bullpen pitcher who gave up the double in relief) in less than 2 innings. The ump at that game called several strikes balls when Ohtani started, and it really messed him up timing wise since those were amazing pitches that should have struck out the first batter. Had that batter got struck out, it might have been a completely different outing for Ohtani since he pitches by feel. I know there isn't any do over in baseball, but if we took out that game Ohtani's ERA right now would be close to 2 instead of 2.79 in AL. The ump defintely had a huge impact in that particular game based on his own zone vs. the actual zone.

 

[the Q]

Honestly think Angels was one of the few teams that agreed to let Ohtani pitch and hit. If Ohtani signed with the Yankees, I think they would have pushed him to be a pitcher or hitter but not both. Joe Maddon is managing Ohtani very well right now, and he is giving him plenty of opportunities to hit and pitch. Angels just need more talent around him since both Rendon and Trout have been on IL most of the season.

There are a ton of baseball talent in Asia. Teams should definitely bring more players from that region to grow the game more internationally. Ohtani alone has made baseball more popular this year.

the rules make it hard to.

unnecessarily complex from both sides

 

[ClifSpliffy]

This is definitely true in many cases. It affects pitchers as well. The one example thar I still remember clearly was the only bad outing game Ohtani pitched against the Yankees (I watch alot of Angels games) where he gave up 7 runs (3 of them was sent in by Sledger the bullpen pitcher who gave up the double in relief) in less than 2 innings. The ump at that game called several strikes balls when Ohtani started, and it really messed him up timing wise since those were amazing pitches that should have struck out the first batter. Had that batter got struck out, it might have been a completely different outing for Ohtani since he pitches by feel. I know there isn't any do over in baseball, but if we took out that game Ohtani's ERA right now would be close to 2 instead of 2.79 in AL. The ump defintely had a huge impact in that particular game based on his own zone vs. the actual zone.

 

[aburks41]

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Your post aged like a gallon of milk in July.

Heany was quite a prospect and was considered sleeper material this season.

As a Yanks fan I'm glad to be wrong. Looks like we may have struck gold with Gil being the next Severino. And Heaney pitched exceptionally well, credit to him. I still don't think he deserves a spot in the rotation over Gil or Nestor Cortes though

 

[Scoe]

As a Yanks fan I'm glad to be wrong. Looks like we may have struck gold with Gil being the next Severino. And Heaney pitched exceptionally well, credit to him. I still don't think he deserves a spot in the rotation over Gil or Nestor Cortes though

The rotation has been pretty solid all year and got screwed over by the lineup and the pen most of the season.

If we make the playoffs we got a solid 3 in Cole, Taillon and Montgomery.Just need that 4th guy amongst Kluber, Gil, German, Heaney and Cortes. You could put 2 of those guys in the pen on the playoff roster.

 

[mauconnfan]

The argument of robot pitchers is just so ridiculous I’m not going to respond.

But the strike zone is the same. Knees to shoulder. The plate doesn’t change.

You think technology that can drive a car, change lanes and avoid accidents can’t identify a shoulder or knee???

Knees to shoulder? If you give that zone to the robots its over. The pitchers will own the game because now the strike zone with some hardly elevate above the belt area. That's what's fun about the game, find out what you have to swing at during the game according to the patterns of the umpire back there. Hell I did that in HS, college and twilight leagues getting to know these guys day in day out. These guys know the tenedencies of the blue, swing the bat. Would kill the game with technology heading that far. Keep the umps back there.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Don’t really care about tennis. Loved when McEnroe and Conners were yelling at lines people though.

 

[NJHusky]

Knees to shoulder? If you give that zone to the robots its over. The pitchers will own the game because now the strike zone with some hardly elevate above the belt area. That's what's fun about the game, find out what you have to swing at during the game according to the patterns of the umpire back there. Hell I did that in HS, college and twilight leagues getting to know these guys day in day out. These guys know the tenedencies of the blue, swing the bat. Would kill the game with technology heading that far. Keep the umps back there.

Ok then make it belt to knees. Or gut to knees. Range doesn’t matter. Consistency does

 

[WestCoastHusky]

People go to the ball parks to see players like Ohtani hit dingers. He got to deal with this. Pretty sure a robo ump can do better.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

People go to the ball parks to see players like Ohtani hit dingers. He got to deal with this. Pretty sure a robo ump can do better.

respect is earned. he's the new guy. i remember when that boggs guy was on the team. it always seemed like fastballs down the middle were called balls with him. big fun.
flying autos. self-driving cars. robo umps. as if.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

respect is earned. he's the new guy. i remember when that boggs guy was on the team. it always seemed like fastballs down the middle were called balls with him. big fun.
flying autos. self-driving cars. robo umps. as if.

Well respect might be earned, but there were a ton of calls that went against him this year. A guy even wrote an entire article on this recently. Despite all of this, he is still having a historical season. He could do much better though since teams are now literally are just walking him or pitching around him. He is getting nothing to hit.

We need better umps or we need robo umps.

 

[mauconnfan]

Well respect might be earned, but there were a ton of calls that went against him this year. A guy even wrote an entire article on this recently. Despite all of this, he is still having a historical season. He could do much better though since teams are now literally are just walking him or pitching around him. He is getting nothing to hit.

We need better umps or we need robo umps.

Man quit whining he gets the same respect others get. He's having a terrific season even though .270 isn't great the rest is amazing. But to whine about umps hating him, geez people are whacked! Robots would absolutely ruin the game in so many ways. Let Americas game keep going it's fine. Sorry the Angels blow!

 

[Stinger92860]

They are getting their pitchers back, Cole last night, Montgomery today. That will make a huge difference.

Looking good for the Yanks right now, but lots of season left. Despite Britton being out and Chapman imploding, there is more pitching coming back online. That said, no team can keep this up in baseball.

 

[McLovin]

People go to the ball parks to see players like Ohtani hit dingers. He got to deal with this. Pretty sure a robo ump can do better.

Were some of those balls outside, yes. But when the camera angles are offset like that, it's going to look like that sometimes (let's see all these pitches from directly overhead). The yankees had a few horrendous calls against them yesterday, Boone came out and got tossed and it fired up the team. The zone tightened up and then they mashed 3 homers over the next 2 innings. Baseball is an art, not a science. If you want to see robo umps go watch e-sports.

 

[MTBingNinja]

 

[jibsey]

And if they somehow do, how far can they go with inconsistent hitting and bad relief pitching?

 

[Deadrody]

And if they somehow do, how far can they go with inconsistent hitting and bad relief pitching?

They only have bad relief pitching because they have mostly worse starting pitching. Tough to take a commanding lead in the wild card by winning 13 straight, most in 60 years, and then cough it all back up in a couple of putrid weeks

 

[dennismenace]

Daily News article has pretty good analysis IMO of the Yankees debacle. I especially liked his reference on whether Boone was responsible for the moves after the winning streak or "the analytics department". When the latter are running the decisions they are a pretty easy team to beat because they are so one dimensional. Many commentators and writers have brought this up; the lack of situational hitting and lack of aggression in hitters. They look so helpless at the plate when they should be terrorizing the opposition. Are they thinking about launch angles up there?

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[karstenkibbe]

Based on a few appearances this week, the return of Severino and his placement in the bullpen seem like he will play a significant role in the Yanks’ chances. After seeing how lively his fastball has been, I like their chances a lot. Oh. And Stanton. Wow.

 

[mauconnfan]

Based on a few appearances this week, the return of Severino and his placement in the bullpen seem like he will play a significant role in the Yanks’ chances. After seeing how lively his fastball has been, I like their chances a lot. Oh. And Stanton. Wow.

Severino looked really good today. And that was an absolute bomb! Weird team tough games coming up let’s see how they finish.

 

[karstenkibbe]

Severino looked really good today. And that was an absolute bomb! Weird team tough games coming up let’s see how they finish.

Next six games will be really tough. Not putting Holmes back on the mound for another inning was a head scratcher. But I did thoroughly enjoy this newest version of the Boston Massacre.

 

[coloradohusky]

Next six games will be really tough. Not putting Holmes back on the mound for another inning was a head scratcher. But I did thoroughly enjoy this newest version of the Boston Massacre.

I was yelling at the tv over that bs. The dude strikes out 3 on 12 pitches and you take him out? Smdh

 

[karstenkibbe]

I was yelling at the tv over that bs. The dude strikes out 3 on 12 pitches and you take him out? Smdh

Analytics. Removes any flow to the game and contributes to my son being an anomaly among his generation as a baseball fan.

 

[coloradohusky]

Analytics. Removes any flow to the game and contributes to my son being an anomaly among his generation as a baseball fan.

The movement on his pitches was amazing.

 

[mauconnfan]

The movement on his pitches was amazing.

He had great stuff it was obvious to all but Boone. Don't care if they brought up a lefty to hit Holmes with electric stuff last night was better than any of our lefties in the pen and it wasn't even Peralta. As kibble said head scratcher no doubt. Almost as big as pitching to Stanton with first open LOL

 

[coloradohusky]

I'm stuck in a hotel in Westchester, I'd kill for a game to watch while I'm bored out if my gourd.