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OT: Will the Yankees make the playoffs?

Will the Yankees make the playoffs?

  • Yes

    Votes: 77 66.4%

  • No

    Votes: 39 33.6%
  • Total voters
    116
AZHuskiePop said:
I don’t follow baseball but I inevitably watch a few games with my son in law and grandson when I’m in Ct
I was shocked at the 7 inning double header. What’s next no extra innings instead the managers play best two out three rock , paper , scissors.
The old baseball guys who taught me the game are rolling over in their graves.
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They are getting rid of 7 inning double headers and the extra baserunner in extra innings per my conversation with people in cardinals organization. They were implemented for covid reasons
 
WestCoastHusky said:
After the sticky cheating thing with the MLB, didn't Cole's pitches dropped a ton in RPM once he can't use the stuff anymore? He still pitched well last game against Angels but he got a ton of help from the ump.
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Where do you get off. This is the BONEYARD and I’ve never heard such ridiculously biased and outlandish takes as the ones you have been throwing out of your a** in this thread. Yes his rpm dropped but not drastically and if you pay attention to the chart posted by @CCSUblue the ump got 92% correct which is pretty damn good. There is no reason for robo umps, for numerous reasons. Umps are part of baseball and you’ll have to deal with that. The fact that you are trying to discount gerrit Cole’s skills as a top three starter in the league is crazy. You are just a hurt little Angels fan who is upset his team is ten games under.
Please stop thinking the angels have an inkling of a chance a WC it is one of the least realistic things I’ve ever heard. Get out of the clouds and come back down to earth.
 
conn4>cuse1 said:
Where do you get off. This is the BONEYARD and I’ve never heard such ridiculously biased and outlandish takes as the ones you have been throwing out of your a** in this thread. Yes his rpm dropped but not drastically and if you pay attention to the chart posted by @CCSUblue the ump got 92% correct which is pretty damn good. There is no reason for robo umps, for numerous reasons. Umps are part of baseball and you’ll have to deal with that. The fact that you are trying to discount gerrit Cole’s skills as a top three starter in the league is crazy. You are just a hurt little Angels fan who is upset his team is ten games under.
Please stop thinking the angels have an inkling of a chance a WC it is one of the least realistic things I’ve ever heard. Get out of the clouds and come back down to earth.
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I think you are the one being an a**. Yeah we need robo umps cause some of the calls are ridiculous. They definitely didn't help the Angels that particular game. People that have no idea what they are talking about shouldn't have such strong opinions.

Cole's RPM dropped a ton. This isn't just my opinion, it is in the data. I would say 6.3% drop is significant for a pitcher.

www.wsj.com

The Data Behind Baseball’s Stickiest Problem

MLB began cracking down on pitchers using foreign substances to improve their grip on the ball. The game changed dramatically. These numbers show how.
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methodology said:
Forgot to mention theres serious discussion about eliminating the shift
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Better to learn how to hit against it. Most of the players today are strong enough to hit the ball out of most parks to any field. The only guy I have ever seen effectively hit against the shift was Ted Williams. Most guys get eaten up by it. They are giving players the whole side of the infield.
 
methodology said:
Disagree wholeheartedly about robo umps. Having spoken at length with a few members in the cardinals scouting and front office they told me it actually lengthens games from it being tried in the minors cause every pitch has to be double checked in the booth. Also every ump has a slightly different strike zone ( whether they favor the inside/ outside/ low/ high)that is in line with the current strike zone and once that zone is established they are at about 97-98% accuracy

There is no need for auto umps
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Not sure why it would take so long since it is working just fine in Tennis. During Covid, there were tennis matches where robot judges made all the calls, and it worked well. Robo ump can literally make the call instantly (green light for strikes, red for balls) right behind the catcher. The technology is there.

I do understand it would be a little weird to have AI calling balls and strikes, but most pitchers and hitters just want consistency vs. guessing with each ump.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
Not sure why it would take so long since it is working just fine in Tennis. During Covid, there were tennis matches where robot judges made all the calls, and it worked well. Robo ump can literally make the call instantly (green light for strikes, red for balls) right behind the catcher. The technology is there.

I do understand it would be a little weird to have AI calling balls and strikes, but most pitchers and hitters just want consistency vs. guessing with each ump.
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Ridiculous to take away umps might as well have robots at bat or just allow everyone to do steroids. Geez no please no way!
 
CCSUblue said:
Not wrong about the Cole game.

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Whine on about Cole. It’s the umpiring and I’ve seen enough Yankee games to know how bad some umps are and it 95% or more favors the pitcher. Plenty of Yankee batters have been forced to swing at mostly outside pitches off the plate because of called strikes that are a few inches off the plate. But it affects both teams. A lot of umps think Judge’s knees are in the middle of his calves.
 
mauconnfan said:
Ridiculous to take away umps might as well have robots at bat or just allow everyone to do steroids. Geez no please no way!
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This is actually how the Yankees front office currently thinks the game is played lmao
 
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mauconnfan said:
Ridiculous to take away umps might as well have robots at bat or just allow everyone to do steroids. Geez no please no way!
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You're right...I want Angel Hernandez working all my games if I'm a player :rolleyes: Why wouldn't want a technology that is consistent for both teams...even if it's not perfect..it's more accurate than people and it's consistent.

If technology is there, why not use it?
 
NJHusky said:
You're right...I want Angel Hernandez working all my games if I'm a player :rolleyes: Why wouldn't want a technology that is consistent for both teams...even if it's not perfect..it's more accurate than people and it's consistent.

If technology is there, why not use it?
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Umpiring is part of baseball that’s why. It’s baseball we want sensors and technology out there instead of what baseball has been forever? All part of the game no reason to change. They do have replay where needed that’s plenty. Just an old baseball guy who thinks it would be an awful change for America’s game. Simple!
 
cohenzone said:
Whine on about Cole. It’s the umpiring and I’ve seen enough Yankee games to know how bad some umps are and it 95% or more favors the pitcher. Plenty of Yankee batters have been forced to swing at mostly outside pitches off the plate because of called strikes that are a few inches off the plate. But it affects both teams. A lot of umps think Judge’s knees are in the middle of his calves.
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Not whining here. I'm a Yankees fan and Cole fan. And a fan of the umpire scorecards. I think those are more important than robo umpires. Keep the umps accountable.
 
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CCSUblue said:
Not whining here. I'm a Yankees fan and Cole fan. And a fan of the umpire scorecards. I think those are more important than robo umpires. Keep the umps accountable.
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I don’t know if it’s because TV uses the strike zone box, but either umpires have always made too many bad calls on pitches and the box just emphasizes it or modern umps are way too erratic. It definitely favors pitchers. Pitchers are unlikely to stop throwing strikes because an ump incorrectly calls a ball. But batters have to adjust to swinging at balls, especially that are outside, because an ump has no clue about the outside corner. Pitchers love it.
 
mauconnfan said:
Umpiring is part of baseball that’s why. It’s baseball we want sensors and technology out there instead of what baseball has been forever? All part of the game no reason to change. They do have replay where needed that’s plenty. Just an old baseball guy who thinks it would be an awful change for America’s game. Simple!
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I'm sure you remember tennis before the line camera too...
 
I’m split on robo strike zone. Human error and subjectiveness is part of what makes sports exciting, in my opinion. A packed and hostile stadium booing the ump or ref (in basketball or football) even when the ump/ref made the right call is part of what creates a dynamic and exciting atmosphere. Robo umps would basically remove all of that from the game (since replay could challenge every other call besides ball and strikes). If we know machines are making the decisions, we lose that important human connection.

Just like in basketball, where there is a clear cut rule description of what constitutes a foul, travel, etc. turning that over to a computer to dictate would sterilize the sport in a bad way. The subjectiveness of GOOD refs or umps keeps the game from becoming a 2K simulation. A small degree of human error makes sports unique and exciting.

Example... Calhoun was a master of working refs on the sideline. It's part of what made him such a great coach. UConn, and all of us fans, benefitted from that. If you turn every call over to a computer you remove that part of the game and it changes the game (for the worse IMO). I bet Hurley would be far less entertaining to watch if he knew computers made every call on the court.

but if robo umps means the end for Angel Hernandez, I can get behind that…
 
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aburks41 said:
The rotation is still pretty suspect. Cole and Monty back helps, but we need German and Kluber (Sevy is definitely out for the rest of year after this latest MRI). We can't keep getting lucky with Gil because his minor league stats stink so eventually he'll get hit. And Heaney is the worst pitcher I have ever seen in my life, that guy doesn't even belong on a minor league roster he is so so so bad
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Your post aged like a gallon of milk in July.

Heany was quite a prospect and was considered sleeper material this season.
 
7 IP 2 H for Heany, one of those hits was a solo hr on an 0-2 pitch to Boegaerts, 108 pitches I might roll with him still until someone reaches go batter to batter.
 
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Of course the Yankees will. The Sox will not. Incredible implosion since the break by the Sox. No leadership and lack of making any strong moves at the trading deadline seems to be doing them in.
 
Dove said:
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Your post aged like a gallon of milk in July.

Heany was quite a prospect and was considered sleeper material this season.
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Heany is hot and cold. He was a good angel, but it was good Angels made the trade with Yankees for some prospects.

What a special night for Shohei Ohtani today against the Tigers.

  • 8 IPs pitched, 8 Ks, 1 R on the mound
  • He also hit MLB bomb number 40 to 430 feet.
  • Regardless what Angels will do the rest of this season, it was such amazing season watching Ohtani.
 
Scoe said:
7 IP 2 H for Heany, one of those hits was a solo hr on an 0-2 pitch to Boegaerts, 108 pitches I might roll with him still until someone reaches go batter to batter.
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That's an awesome outing for Heaney.
 
cohenzone said:
I don’t know if it’s because TV uses the strike zone box, but either umpires have always made too many bad calls on pitches and the box just emphasizes it or modern umps are way too erratic. It definitely favors pitchers. Pitchers are unlikely to stop throwing strikes because an ump incorrectly calls a ball. But batters have to adjust to swinging at balls, especially that are outside, because an ump has no clue about the outside corner. Pitchers love it.
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The strike zone on tv isn’t the umpires established strike zone that’s why the consistency score is somewhat more important in the umpire scorecards
 
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