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So your saying we are the equivalent of the 1989 Dallas Cowboys and we will go on to win titles in 4 years when they all become seniors........
 
First off, it’s like the lottery, you can’t win if you don’t play. Secondly, when did this civil war of MBB vs Football fans come around? If your mad that MBB fans are saying football is a lost cause, then you gotta be nuts since no in the world can see the direction the program is going. “Edsall just needs his guys”, who in the world would want to come play here if they are actually good?
 
StepbackCity said:
First off, it’s like the lottery, you can’t win if you don’t play. Secondly, when did this civil war of MBB vs Football fans come around? If your mad that MBB fans are saying football is a lost cause, then you gotta be nuts since no in the world can see the direction the program is going. “Edsall just needs his guys”, who in the world would want to come play here if they are actually good?
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Over the past 4 years there have been two groups of basketball fans, those that said the conference was killing basketball and those that said Ollie was killing basketball. It's still too early to make a final call here, but those of us that said it was Ollie and not the conference are looking pretty good right now, real good, it actually looks like a landslide so far. I've got my sunglasses on.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Over the past 4 years there have been two groups of basketball fans, those that said the conference was killing basketball and those that said Ollie was killing basketball. It's still too early to make a final call here, but those of us that said it was Ollie and not the conference are looking pretty good right now, real good, it actually looks like a landslide so far. I've got my sunglasses on.
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I’m part of that group too. But the conference certainly has an affect though, no denying that.
 
BugsyCT said:
56, 62, 49, 51, and 49. This is what we've given up in 5 games this year.

Eventually the other team stops trying to score and puts their subs in. It's hard to get worse than that.
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So you're saying we've gotten better? Great success!
 
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Don’t throw in the towel just yet. Not until you exaust all of your options. At present, UConn’s football program resembles a dumpster fire.

Since nothing else has worked, why not humble yourself, and simply follow the format that UCF uses. They are having unparalleled success. Stop scratching your head trying to figure it out. Their format is a proven winner. UConn football can only improve, I doubt it can get any worse.

Losing big is bad enough, but you’re doing it on national TV for the entire country to see. Something has got to change. We all know the definition of insanity.............Take the “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore “ approach. Enough is enough!!!
Turn this thing around.

C’mon UConn, you’re better than this.
 
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Scoop said:
Don’t throw in the towel just yet. Not until you exaust all of your options. At present, UConn’s football program resembles a dumpster fire.

Since nothing else has worked, why not humble yourself, and simply follow the format that UCF uses. They are having unparalleled success. Stop scratching your head trying to figure it out. Their format is a proven winner. UConn football can only improve, I doubt it can get any worse.

Losing big is bad enough, but you’re doing it on national TV for the entire country to see. Something has got to change. We all know the definition of insanity...Take the “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this anymore “ approach. Enough is enough!!!
Turn this thing around.

C’mon UConn, you’re better than this.
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the UCF model? Would you like us to move the school to Florida or another fertile recruiting ground?
 
60'sfan said:
Actually it could get worse. Uconn is 164 out of 256 college football teams according to the latest Sagarin ratings. I am a sports fan but I am big on return on investment. For the investment that has been put into Uconn football the return is abysmal. I'll admit that I don't follow Uconn football, but has anyone even heard of any top recruit considering coming to Uconn. Is there any reason to have hope?
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That's difficult to accurately quantify. Who knows what donors may have contributed to academics since the program became 1-A that may have been due to football?
 
SMU/Memphis/UCSF not applicable to our situations.

They get players who were overlooked by Texas, Tennessee, FSU.

We get players who only have other offers from Colgate and Army.
 
Listen - when P was here we had a top 20 defense (with Don Brown) and the worst offense in the country.

We now have the 67th ranked offense (by yards) and the worst defense in the country.

I have no illusion we will be a top 25 program soon - but we are not a long way off from having a respectable program - we are playing a ton of freshmen.
 
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J187Money said:
Listen - when P was here we had a top 20 defense (with Don Brown) and the worst offense in the country.

We now have the 67th ranked offense (by yards) and the worst defense in the country.

I have no illusion we will be a top 25 program soon - but we are not a long way off from having a respectable program - we are playing a ton of freshmen.
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I love the potential of our young front 4 on defense. Kivon Jones also looks like a player and we have a top JUCO LB coming in next year. The potential is there to be very good.
 
I just love these post-loss threads.

Once again (again and again and again), dropping football and moving hoops to another conference would apply the following exit fee terms/conditions:

1. $10M exit fee;
2. 27 month waiting period (can be negotiated down to 12 months for additional $1M-$2M minimum)...meaning we're looking at an exit fee around $12M to leave within 12 months.

I know losing games is tough to swallow, especially in the non-competitive manner that we lose 'em. But please remember that swapping conferences is far more complicated and would bring a very real, long-term consequence to our AD/school.

If you don't want to watch or attend games until we start winning again, fine. That's your money and your time/energy. Nobody would find fault in anyone not wanting to devote 4-8 hours on game days + $50/person to go watch us lose by 50 points to teams we used to be competitive against. I went down with the Whalers and saw the same thing happen to them. I got it then as a kid and I get it now as an adult. What I don't get is why UConn fans have to go that extra "drop football" step that literally no other fanbase went during their programs' tough patches.

The Old Money Club of college football is the Old Money Club because they've all endured these rough patches and survived. It stinks that football and not basketball has dictated what school/AD is paid obnoxious money and what school/ADs isn't. If it were the opposite, UConn would be entering their 10th season as a full member of the ACC here in 2018. But here we are - we're in our program's extreme rough patch that every Old Money CFB Club member had to endure 50-100 years ago. Hopefully, Edsall will be able to rebuild this program to where it was in 2010 but it will take several years. Several years. Let me say it again: several years. So tap out for a while if you want - nobody will think anything bad about you. When the programs begins to win again in several years, you will be welcomed back with open arms.

We're not dropping football. Ever. The sooner you guys/gals can wrap your heads around this, the better. Again, nobody will blame you if you decide to tap out of UConn football while we're this historically bad. But these types of threads and wailing does absolutely nothing to help anything in the program, the school, or the state. Unless you have $10M-$12M in your couch cushions, just back quietly out of UConn football while it's being rebuilt. No need to start yet another one of these tired threads about a tired concept that the Old Money Club and our geographic r1vals (BC, RU, Fruit, Pitt, etc) would LOVE to have happen - UConn tapping out of major competitive college sports.
 
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Dooley said:
I just love these post-loss threads.

Once again (again and again and again), dropping football and moving hoops to another conference would apply the following exit fee terms/conditions:

1. $10M exit fee;
2. 27 month waiting period (can be negotiated down to 12 months for additional $1M-$2M minimum)...meaning we're looking at an exit fee around $12M to leave within 12 months.

I know losing games is tough to swallow, especially in the non-competitive manner that we lose 'em. But please remember that swapping conferences is far more complicated and would bring a very real, long-term consequence to our AD/school.

If you don't want to watch or attend games until we start winning again, fine. That's your money and your time/energy. Nobody would find fault in anyone not wanting to devote 7-8 hours on game days + $50/person to go watch us lose by 50 points to teams we used to be competitive against. I went down with the Whalers and saw the same thing happen to them. I got it then as a kid and I get it now as an adult. What I don't get is why UConn fans have to go that extra "drop football" step that literally no other fanbase went during their programs' tough patches.

The Old Money Club of college football is the Old Money Club because they've all endured these rough patches and survived. It stinks that football and not basketball has dictated what school/AD is paid obnoxious money and what school/ADs don't. If it were the opposite, UConn would likely be entering their 10th season as a full member of the ACC here in 2018. So here we are - we're in our program's extreme rough patch that every Old Money CFB Club member had to endure 50-100 years ago. Hopefully, Edsall will be able to rebuild this program to where it was in 2010 but it will take several years. Several years. Let me say it again, several years. So tap out for a while if you want - nobody will think anything bad about you. When the programs begins to win again in several years, you will be welcomed back with open arms.

We're not dropping football. Ever. The sooner you guys/gals can wrap your heads around this, the better. Again, nobody will blame you if you decide to tap out of UConn football while we're this historically bad. But these types of threads and wailing does absolutely nothing to help anything in the program, the school, or the state. Unless you have $10M-$12M in your couch cushions, just tap quietly out of UConn football while it's being rebuilt. No need to start yet another one of these tired threads about a tired concept that the Old Money Club and our geographic r1vals (BC, RU, Fruit, Pitt, etc) would LOVE to have happen - UConn tapping out of major competitive college sports.
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I only regret that I have but one like to give for this post.
 
whaler11 said:
To borrow a phrase from Fishy himself.

If you don’t think that eliminating the football team is going to be considered a legitimate option at some point in the future you are whistling past the graveyard because you don’t understand the depths of the state’s budget issues.

Nobody in the country is losing this much money playing sports. As the state’s contribution to UConn heads towards zero everything is going to be on the table.

The school is going to have to completely retrench - the gravy train is dead.
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What boggles my mind in the investment in sports that don't matter. I.E. everything except football and men's hoops.

The subsidy is only going to get bigger and bigger while we continue to invest in softball fields.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
What boggles my mind in the investment in sports that don't matter. I.E. everything except football and men's hoops.

The subsidy is only going to get bigger and bigger while we continue to invest in softball fields.
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Middle schools have better baseball and softball fields than we do.
 
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JMick said:
the UCF model? Would you like us to move the school to Florida or another fertile recruiting ground?
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No, their model can be followed from your present location. Being located in Storrs is the least of your problems.

In your educated and informed opinion, right now, could UConn defeat the #1 and #2 ranked teams in division 2?
 
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StepbackCity said:
I’m part of that group too. But the conference certainly has an affect though, no denying that.
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Look, I follow both sports but enjoy football better. I'm tired of the conference complaint from the basketball side. If it's such a bad conference, how come we've never won it in the regular season and needed a Jalen Adams miracle to go on and win the conference tournament once. Until UConn is dominating the AAC in bball, I don't want to hear about how it's hurting us. If we can't win in our current conference, what makes any of you think we'd be anywhere close to competitive in the Big East?
 
Brochacho said:
Middle schools have better baseball and softball fields than we do.
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I know some people on here truly enjoy those non-revenue programs, but we are bleeding money left and right, so to me it doesn't make sense to continually pour money into programs that will never generate a profit or break even.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I know some people on here truly enjoy those non-revenue programs, but we are bleeding money left and right, so to me it doesn't make sense to continually pour money into programs that will never generate a profit or break even.
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If the end goal is still P5, then ECSU can't be outclassing us when it comes to facilities in any sport.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
What boggles my mind in the investment in sports that don't matter. I.E. everything except football and men's hoops.

The subsidy is only going to get bigger and bigger while we continue to invest in softball fields.
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What further monetary investment would you like to see in the football facilities that will yield a meaningful difference in on the field results? We could build the Taj Mahal on campus and it wouldn't make a difference from where we are now.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
I know some people on here truly enjoy those non-revenue programs, but we are bleeding money left and right, so to me it doesn't make sense to continually pour money into programs that will never generate a profit or break even.
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You can just as easily make the case that it doesn't make sense to continually pour money into programs that continually piss it away by being an embarrassment on the field.
 
You keep football because it's a big time sport. I think it's actually THE college sport that drives the bus. We love football despite our team being so bad. You work to fix football, not dismantle it, if want to be relevant in big time sports imo.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
What further monetary investment would you like to see in the football facilities that will yield a meaningful difference in on the field results? We could build the Taj Mahal on campus and it wouldn't make a difference from where we are now.
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There's only one item I can think of, but it's a big one. ;)
 
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This tread is famous. USAToday misery index
 
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