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Greensboro region:
1 Baylor
4 South Carolina
3 NC State
2 Iowa

Chicago region:
1 ND
4 TAMU
3 Iowa St
2 Stanford

NC State - Iowa is very intriguing to me. I would love to see how Cunane fares v. Gustafson. Hope that matchup does happen.
 
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So what are the guesses for the order of the #1 seeds (or did I just miss them?):
Baylor
ND
Louisville
MS St
 

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Greensboro region:
1 Baylor
4 South Carolina
3 NC State
2 Iowa

Chicago region:
1 ND
4 TAMU
3 Iowa St
2 Stanford
The committee sure does like matching Notre Dame with Stanford and Texas A&M more often than not.
 

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So the last 4 teams in were:
Indiana, Auburn, Tennessee, UCF

Ohio got left out. (Cue the cries of mid-major injustice!)

Also left out: TCU, Arkansas.
 
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In my final 16 ranks:
NY: 3 / 4 / 10 / 12 = 29 !
NC: 1 / 8 / 9 / 14 = 32
IL: 2 / 7 / 15/ 16 = 40 !!
OR: 5 / 6 / 13 / 11 = 35
 
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Whoa so UCF made it in?

I believe it's the first time since I've been paying attention to this that an at-large bid has been given to a team with no wins over the at-large field.

What puzzles me is their RPI rank of 15th. How is that possible? I thought that RPI was the best measuring stick? :rolleyes:

That was a rhetorical question. It's been demonstrated that a team could lose it's entire schedule of games and still have a top RPI. Maybe UCF will force the women's side to abandon RPI for a more performance-based system that distinguishes between good wins/loses and bad wins/loses. But I doubt it.
 

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What puzzles me is their RPI rank of 15th. How is that possible? I thought that RPI was the best measuring stick? :rolleyes:

That was a rhetorical question. It's been demonstrated that a team could lose it's entire schedule of games and still have a top RPI. Maybe UCF will force the women's side to abandon RPI for a more performance-based system that distinguishes between good wins/loses and bad wins/loses. But I doubt it.
Well FWIW Massey currently has UCF as #32. So maybe *that's* what got them in :p
 
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Using Creme's Regionals, but I believe is incorrect
 

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In my final 16 ranks:
NY: 3 / 4 / 10 / 12 = 29 !
NC: 1 / 8 / 9 / 14 = 32
IL: 2 / 7 / 15/ 16 = 40 !!
OR: 5 / 6 / 13 / 11 = 35
Ha well it's safe to say your final 16 didn't agree with the committee's.
 

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What puzzles me is their RPI rank of 15th. How is that possible? I thought that RPI was the best measuring stick? :rolleyes:

That was a rhetorical question. It's been demonstrated that a team could lose it's entire schedule of games and still have a top RPI. Maybe UCF will force the women's side to abandon RPI for a more performance-based system that distinguishes between good wins/loses and bad wins/loses. But I doubt it.

We're going to get a women's basketball version of the NET fairly soon. This is from an official NCAA release:

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What puzzles me is their RPI rank of 15th. How is that possible? I thought that RPI was the best measuring stick? :rolleyes:

That was a rhetorical question. It's been demonstrated that a team could lose it's entire schedule of games and still have a top RPI. Maybe UCF will force the women's side to abandon RPI for a more performance-based system that distinguishes between good wins/loses and bad wins/loses. But I doubt it.

I've got news for you: not everyone who takes (themselves!) and gets a perfect score on their SATs is gonna be millionaire.

You are assuming 2 things that I don't believe the NCAA has ever said.

1) That the RPI is the best measuring stick. It is merely one piece of information they use.
2) That a team's RPI rank is used. Instead they use the groupings -- record vs top 50, bottom 150, etc. So, yes, they are looking at good wins and bad losses.

Also I imagine the women will eventually move to the NET ratings the men have started using.
 

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Apparently here is UConn's bracket:

2 UConn vs. 15 Towson
7 Rutgers vs. 10 Buffalo

3 Maryland vs. 14 Radford
6 UCLA vs. 11 Tennessee
Which days are these groups playing? I might drive down to College Park to see them, particularly if it’s Friday/Sunday!
 
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Ha well it's safe to say your final 16 didn't agree with the committee's.

I know, but it still tells me that the Chicago region is the weakest.
 

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So the last 4 teams in were:
Indiana, Auburn, Tennessee, UCF

Ohio got left out. (Cue the cries of mid-major injustice!)

Also left out: TCU, Arkansas.

All the ESPN broadcasters and Creme seemd already certain of this last night. Now we know why. Let's see if ESPN owns up to any of this later or just ignores it.
 

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If this is the bracket, I predict UCONN vs UCLA game. I believe UCLA will take care of Tennessee and Maryland.
UCLA gets sent to Northeast again? Well, they'd have to get through the first weekend. But, still, that's like 3 out of last 4 years, I believe, where they are sent cross-country.
 
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If this is correct, curious to see how they ranked the overall seeds. It would seem like Baylor is #1, ND is #2, Lou is #3, MSST is #4. Could be that UConn is #5 and Oregon is #6, and if that is the case, why wasn't MSST sent to Albany to balance the bracket?
 

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I've got news for you: not everyone who takes (themselves!) and gets a perfect score on their SATs is gonna be millionaire.

You are assuming 2 things that I don't believe the NCAA has ever said.

1) That the RPI is the best measuring stick. It is merely one piece of information they use.
2) That a team's RPI rank is used. Instead they use the groupings -- record vs top 50, bottom 150, etc. So, yes, they are looking at good wins and bad losses.

Also I imagine the women will eventually move to the NET ratings the men have started using.
Just adding to that: There is a lot of noise on the men's side today questioning whether the NET is even an improvement over the RPI.

The following MBB teams were left out (NET ranking in parentheses):
NC St (33), Clemson (35), Texas (38)

While the following teams got in:
Temple (56), Arizona St (63), St. John's (73)

The MBB committee's line is identical to that of the RPI era: It's only a "sorting tool," etc. etc.
 

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So did Duke make it or not?
Yes Duke made it, you are a #10 seed and playing Missouri a #7 seed.

Wait one second there is something on my TV screen.

Never mind, that is Drake vs Missouri, they abbreviated Drake and it looked like Duke :rolleyes:
 

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Bracket going to be announced at 5 PM on ESPN2 according to a NCAA WBB Tweet

BREAKING: The NCAA DI Women's Basketball bracket will be officially revealed at 5 PM ET on ESPN2. #ncaaW



4:33 PM - 18 Mar 2019
 

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If this is correct, curious to see how they ranked the overall seeds. It would seem like Baylor is #1, ND is #2, Lou is #3, MSST is #4. Could be that UConn is #5 and Oregon is #6, and if that is the case, why wasn't MSST sent to Albany to balance the bracket?
They might have sent Louisville to Albany for geographical reasons.
 

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