Why do people get sensitive when critiquing Kevin Ollie?

[JMick]

Are you a booster with the kind of influence that allows you to make personnel changes? If not, how is there anything any fan can do that shows "not personally accepting this"?

I'm not trotting around pretending everything is roses. There are too many people defending what has been an atrocious 1.5 seasons. There are people deluding themselves into thinking this is fine, and it's not. By "personally not accepting this" I mean I'm not going to pretend that everything is ok and that it will be better next year - because that's what we said last year.

 

[socal613ws]

I feel an extreme sense of apathy towards the program and I'm getting sick of it. It's getting to the point where people are defending being a middle of the pack team in a garbage conference. This isn't UConn football where we're looking to grow, this is UConn basketball. We are the most or second most talented team in this conference, and we look like a mess. Whether it's Ollie or not people should be upset. We should be pissed off about missing the tournament last year and we should be pissed off about how we've played this year. Pretending that everything is ok isn't going to do anything. Heck, me complaining probably won't do anything, either, but at least I'm not going to personally accept this show that has been UConn basketball the last two years.

thanks for someone finally having the balls to say the truth, tired of this crap. They have been BLOWNOUT by Maryland, manhandled by a syracuse team who is not even that good and have had terrible loses to teams like tulsa and now cincy. Idc what anyone tells me, Cincinnati is a borderline bubble team, you don't let them come into your house and punk you like that!

 

[Stainmaster]

I'm not trotting around pretending everything is roses. There are too many people defending what has been an atrocious 1.5 seasons. There are people deluding themselves into thinking this is fine, and it's not. By "personally not accepting this" I mean I'm not going to pretend that everything is ok and that it will be better next year - because that's what we said last year.

My point is, does it make a damn difference whether people say it's roses or the world is ending? I realize perspective is difficult after a loss like this, but 99% of the people here are just spectators and nothing more. Whatever they are, our attitudes affect nothing.

 

[huskyinfl]

It's because we are afraid to lose him and not get anyone to replace him even though he is showing a lack of basic understanding of how to coach.

 

[dpross]

There's a team called LSU that has what some people refer to as the "next Lebron" on their team and guess what ... that team isn't sniffing a championship. Nevermind Johnny Jones getting an opportunity to coach thru Donovan, Izzo and Calipari.

Apples to oranges ya dingus. Freshman inside type post player who passes well v. a senior PG who was experienced and could bail a team out more times than he couldn't with the ball in his hands > 50% of the time. Nice try.

 

[intlzncster]

It's because KO (ahem, I mean SHABAZZ) won a NC. Duh

Same as JC (ahem, I mean Kemba, Emeka, & Rip) won 3 NCs. Duh.

 

[dpross]

Same as JC (ahem, I mean Kemba, Emeka, & Rip) won 3 NCs. Duh.

Yes with a program that HE grew, nurtured, and established. You almost conclusively make my point for me. Another fail for you.

 

[JMick]

My point is, does it make a damn difference whether people say it's roses or the world is ending? I realize perspective is difficult after a loss like this, but 99% of the people here are just spectators and nothing more. Whatever they are, our attitudes affect nothing.

I think I'm more frustrated with the people acting like this is acceptable than I am with KO directly. But everything just seems apathetic. KO looks apathetic, the team looks apathetic, the fans are apathetic. It just doesn't look like UConn. Maybe I'm just scared we're going to end up in the college basketball record books as that team that went on a 15 year run and disappeared into a lousy conference, but I'm just tired of people acting like it's ok and that everything will be fine.

 

[socal613ws]

If Abidah Brimah doesn't make that and 1 vs st joe's, is Ollie still around? I'll say no. Heck I think Jim Calhoun was expected to take over after 1 year, it just so happened that Uconn got on an unbelivable run and won it.

 

[dpross]

I think I'm more frustrated with the people acting like this is acceptable than I am with KO directly. But everything just seems apathetic. KO looks apathetic, the team looks apathetic, the fans are apathetic. It just doesn't look like UConn. Maybe I'm just scared we're going to end up in the college basketball record books as that team that went on a 15 year run and disappeared into a lousy conference, but I'm just tired of people acting like it's ok and that everything will be fine.

Yep this is spot on, but won't get much love around here.

 

[Stainmaster]

If Abidah Brimah doesn't make that and 1 vs st joe's, is Ollie still around? I'll say no. Heck I think Jim Calhoun was expected to take over after 1 year, it just so happened that Uconn got on an unbelivable run and won it.

You missed the numerous health issues that Calhoun had to deal with over the last 4-5 years of his tenure. His body couldn't take coaching anymore. There's a reason he's happy with broadcasting now.

 

[socal613ws]

You missed the numerous health issues that Calhoun had to deal with over the last 4-5 years of his tenure. His body couldn't take coaching anymore. There's a reason he's happy with broadcasting now.

Idk, I saw him during the tbs broadcast vs Nova in that march madness and it looked like he was refreshed. Might have been nothing but, was there not a rumor about the bc job involving him too?

 

[Stainmaster]

Idk, I saw him during the tbs broadcast vs Nova in that march madness and it looked like he was refreshed. Might have been nothing but, was there not a rumor about the bc job involving him too?

The fools at ESPN planted that to stir up. And he's refreshed because he has much less physical and mental stress than he did when he was coaching DI basketball for 39 years.

 

[JMick]

Yep this is spot on, but won't get much love around here.

I'm just severely disappointed. We should be better than this. We are better than this. We are UConn. But we sure don't act or look like it - coach, players, and fans alike. I love UConn and I'm disappointed to see back to back years that look like this. I hope we start winning, and I really, really hope I have to eat crow in March, but I just don't see it.

 

[JMick]

The fools at ESPN planted that to stir up. And he's refreshed because he has much less physical and mental stress than he did when he was coaching DI basketball for 39 years.

Agreed. I hope he just keeps doing his thing. I do hope he's on the phone will Ollie though. He coached him for 4 years, I hope he's continuing to do so.

 

[UC990411]

We have won 4 NC's in 16 years, teams with real basketball heritage, KU, UCLA would love that.

I can't stand it when people live in the past

 

[JMick]

I can't stand it when people live in the past

To piggyback - everyone is acting like we're mad because we're losing. Maybe you are, but I have a feeling you feel similar to me.

I don't care about losing. Losing happens to the best of them. Losing is a part of sports and a part of life. But you know what winners do when they lose? They get better. They learn. They adapt. When is the last time we've learned from a mistake? When is the last time we didn't run into the same traps that cause the losses. We haven't changed. We haven't adapted. And it's frustrating because Ollie coached his balls off during the NC run. He outcoached some of the best coaches in the game - but where is that? Where has that been since the run?

 

[UC990411]

To piggyback - everyone is acting like we're mad because we're losing. Maybe you are, but I have a feeling you feel similar to me.

I don't care about losing. Losing happens to the best of them. Losing is a part of sports and a part of life. But you know what winners do when they lose? They get better. They learn. They adapt. When is the last time we've learned from a mistake? When is the last time we didn't run into the same traps that cause the losses. We haven't changed. We haven't adapted. And it's frustrating because Ollie coached his balls off during the NC run. He outcoached some of the best coaches in the game - but where is that? Where has that been since the run?

Exactly, I feel like we lose and don't learn from it. We lose and do the same exact things twice as bad the next game. Players constantly get worse and don't improve. It's so maddening that there is no one else to pin it on but KO

 

[JMick]

Exactly, I feel like we lose and don't learn from it. We lose and do the same exact things twice as bad the next game. Players constantly get worse and don't improve. It's so maddening that there is no one else to pin it on but KO

I'm just dumbfounded watching this team and last years after watching the Championship run. Where has the spark from Ollie been? Where are the creative sets and plays? We ran a TON of them during that run.

I can only think that:

1. Ollie doesn't believe he has the players to properly run his scheme

2. The players don't run the schemes he calls

3. He's forcing a scheme and it's not working

It has to be one of the three. If it's #1 - then change your scheme. If it's #2 - hook players, or change your scheme. If it's #3 - CHANGE YOUR SCHEME

 

[intlzncster]

Yes with a program that HE grew, nurtured, and established. You almost conclusively make my point for me. Another fail for you.

That had nothing to do with your point. And if it did, you made it poorly.

 

[intlzncster]

If Abidah Brimah doesn't make that and 1 vs st joe's, is Ollie still around? I'll say no. Heck I think Jim Calhoun was expected to take over after 1 year, it just so happened that Uconn got on an unbelivable run and won it.

LOL. Fire a guy after two consecutive 20+ win seasons. Thank christ you aren't the AD.

 

[dpross]

That had nothing to do with your point. And if it did, you made it poorly.

No I don't think that's the case. I can only assume that you are of reading age and that I don't need to read toddler books to you for you to understand. Once again, fail.

 

[intlzncster]

No I don't think that's the case. I can only assume that you are of reading age and that I don't need to read toddler books to you for you to understand. Once again, fail.

You're borderline comedic (unintentionally). Over/under on 16 years old would be a tough call.

 

[tykurez]

No I don't think that's the case. I can only assume that you are of reading age and that I don't need to read toddler books to you for you to understand. Once again, fail.

You sound like a really great guy.

 

[dpross]

You're borderline comedic (unintentionally). Over/under on 16 years old would be a tough call.

I could be 15, OR, perhaps, I could be an honest (without rose-colored glasses) observant who has watched nearly every game for the past 20 years.

You were implying that KO's coaching en route to a NC was on par with what JC had accomplished with similarly transcendent players. That itself is hilarious, and if you don't think that Bazz and the band was more of the contributing factor than KO, you're just crazy. There were some prayers to get that NC, none of which were summoned by the coaching acumen of KO.

 

[dpross]

You sound like a really great guy.

Thanks!!

 

[JMick]

I could be 15, OR, perhaps, I could be an honest (without rose-colored glasses) observant who has watched nearly every game for the past 20 years.

You were implying that KO's coaching en route to a NC was on par with what JC had accomplished with similarly transcendent players. That itself is hilarious, and if you don't think that Bazz and the band was more of the contributing factor than KO, you're just crazy. There were some prayers to get that NC, none of which were summoned by the coaching acumen of KO.

Once again, people getting sensitive about being critical of KO. Literally what this thread is about.

 

[intlzncster]

You were implying that KO's coaching en route to a NC was on par with what JC had accomplished with similarly transcendent players. That itself is hilarious, and if you don't think that Bazz and the band was more of the contributing factor than KO, you're just crazy. There were some prayers to get that NC, none of which were summoned by the coaching acumen of KO.

Not sure what you watched then, because I saw KO out coaching the likes of Wright, Izzo, Donovan, and Calipari. Not just because we were winning, but because he was making all the right moves. 3 HOFers there.

And there are prayers needed to get every championship. eg They got lucky as hell in 2011 that Jamelle Horn's (a 40% 3pt shooter) three was a couple of centimeters long.

 

[JMick]

Not sure what you watched then, because I saw KO out coaching the likes of Wright, Izzo, Donovan, and Calipari. Not just because we were winning, but because he was making all the right moves. 3 HOFers there.

And there are prayers needed to get every championship. eg They got lucky as hell in 2011 that Jamelle Horn's (a 40% 3pt shooter) three was a couple of centimeters long.

Couldn't agree more - my question is - where is that now...? In the AAC?

 

[socal613ws]

People need to stop with wins and losses, look at the games this year. 20 wins a year is a dumb argument? Tulsa started last year 12-0, who cares if u rack up wins in a bad conference. They play Syracuse Maryland and Gonzaga and they were mishandled, honestly look at how the team is performing offensively and this team is better than 58 pts a game.