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Who's your list for next HC?

Purple Stein said:
Crocker’s problem was the same as Edsall’s - thinking he was the smartest guy in the room. They were both entirely inflexible because they thought “their way” should work regardless of roster construction.

DB must know he needs to hire a coach who is flexible and who can MacGyver the roster to make the best of what we have.
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Billy's actually the complete opposite of that..Bill Parcells would've had the same results..It wasn't a coaching issue
 
I nominate (soon to be terminated) Nebraska head coach Scott Frost to be the next UConn head football coach.

Scott did a great job constructing a top tier program at UCF after he inherited a hapless 0-12 team in 2016 and over the next 2 season earned a 19 and 7 overall record which included an undefeated 13- 0 season in 2017.

Yeah, things have not gone well for Scott at Nebraska and he will likely be terminated at season's end but he turned around UCF and can do the same at UConn.

After being canned at Nebraska he will be hungry to prove himself a winner again.
 
Fairfield_1st said:
My only reservation with Spanos is the HC experience. There's more to it than running practice and game day. It's building his coaching staff, building the program, recruiting, and being an ambassador for the school. Maybe he'd be great...or maybe he's just real likeable and a good game day coach. I don't know. That's why my preference is an FCS coach who has succeeded at multiple places. I need someone who can do the entire job. As others have said, this is a critical hire and although there are no guarantees, I want to minimize as much of the unproven aspects as I can. Having never been fully responsible for a program is a big one for me.
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Like Randy Edsall ?
 
uconnyankee said:
I like Spanos. I think with him, the key would be to get some really solid Coordinators. Mazzone has had an impact for sure.

whether these guys are it, who knows. But what we do know is RE was an anchor and probably stayed past his time. And we’re seeing what impact good coaching can have.

RE was stubborn and unwilling to change. Always was.
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Could Mazzone be the next coach in waiting? It may have come up earlier I just can’t read all the pages
 
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LBird33 said:
Could Mazzone be the next coach in waiting? It may have come up earlier I just can’t read all the pages
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Doubtful. He's already available... if he was going to be the guy they could just hire him, rather than going through the machinations involved in extending him each week as analyst.
 
uconnyankee said:
Is this your assumption or fact. Haven’t heard that Spanos has already been told he’s not coming back.
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It's fact. All staff have been told they won't be retained and will given 6 months severance.
 
DoctorWho85 said:
It's fact. All staff have been told they won't be retained and will given 6 months severance.
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Need to remember that both Spanos & Giufre have contracts through 2022.

From the Day article:

-> The sources said the university is acting in compliance with contract language.

If the head coach leaves or is terminated (as Randy Edsall was recently), first-year coaches must be notified of their impending termination within three months and compensated with three months' pay. Other coaches must be notified within six months and compensated for six months. The sources said coaches will be notified officially this week via a letter from the university.

"The information tweeted (by The Day) regarding the coaches being told they would not be returning for next year is inaccurate," University spokesperson Pat McKenna wrote in an e-mail. "The coaches are under contract and that contract, along with any relevant obligations under the collective bargaining agreement, will be honored."

I’m not saying that Spanos/Giufre will likely be back, just that the “breaking” news likely related to staff other than them.
 
huskymedic said:
Need to remember that both Spanos & Giufre have contracts through 2022.

From the Day article:

-> The sources said the university is acting in compliance with contract language.

If the head coach leaves or is terminated (as Randy Edsall was recently), first-year coaches must be notified of their impending termination within three months and compensated with three months' pay. Other coaches must be notified within six months and compensated for six months. The sources said coaches will be notified officially this week via a letter from the university.

"The information tweeted (by The Day) regarding the coaches being told they would not be returning for next year is inaccurate," University spokesperson Pat McKenna wrote in an e-mail. "The coaches are under contract and that contract, along with any relevant obligations under the collective bargaining agreement, will be honored."

I’m not saying that Spanos/Giufre will likely be back, just that the “breaking” news likely related to staff other than them.
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thanks for this post clarifying this info. Spanos has a great chance to be coach still and SHOULD BE. UConn will not find another coach under 55, willing to take less pay than a typical FBS coach (< 2.0 million, we also uhhh don't have money...), with NFL experience (20 years and 2 SB rings), College experience (UCLA, Alabama, etc.), and ENERGETIC and LIKED by the players and staff. Plus another change in leadership would mean another 1-2 extremely rough years as a mass exodus of young talent would be likely. Lou is young(ish) (comparatively speaking here to people with similar resumes) and this team is night and day from where it was the first few games. The energy, creativity, and experience he has brought is needed at a school like UConn. He checks all of the boxes and if he is retained there would be no aforementioned mass exodus and exhaustive "rebuild" again.. the current one would just continue....
 
Dubs said:
He checks all of the boxes and if he is retained there would be no aforementioned mass exodus and exhaustive "rebuild" again.. the current one would just continue....
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This cannot be overstated, we cannot tolerate another coach telling us he can't win until he has a roster full of his players. It's nothing more than a BS excuse from a failing coach. "Tear it down to the studs" just means "I'm not qualified for this job"

A good coach can come in and make an immediate impact and build on top of what has been left behind. Spanos has already made an impact by having his former colleague (Mazzone) come in and make adjustments to the offense. That's what good coaches do.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
This cannot be overstated, we cannot tolerate another coach telling us he can't win until he has a roster full of his players. It's nothing more than a BS excuse from a failing coach. "Tear it down to the studs" just means "I'm not qualified for this job"

A good coach can come in and make an immediate impact and build on top of what has been left behind. Spanos has already made an impact by having his former colleague (Mazzone) come in and make adjustments to the offense. That's what good coaches do.
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100%
 
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metsfan2323 said:
This cannot be overstated, we cannot tolerate another coach telling us he can't win until he has a roster full of his players. It's nothing more than a BS excuse from a failing coach. "Tear it down to the studs" just means "I'm not qualified for this job"

A good coach can come in and make an immediate impact and build on top of what has been left behind. Spanos has already made an impact by having his former colleague (Mazzone) come in and make adjustments to the offense. That's what good coaches do.
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Moorhead can win with the players we currently have, and make TP look like a top QB in the country. JS
 
DoctorWho85 said:
Moorhead can win with the players we currently have, and make TP look like a top QB in the country. JS
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I agree with that. Moorhead also won quickly at Fordham and MISS ST.

Edsall on the other hand famously went to Maryland and benched the ACC freshman of the year QB who ended up transferring. Edsall took a winning team at Maryland and took them backwards. He pulled the same crap when he took over at UCONN from Holtz.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
This cannot be overstated, we cannot tolerate another coach telling us he can't win until he has a roster full of his players. It's nothing more than a BS excuse from a failing coach. "Tear it down to the studs" just means "I'm not qualified for this job"

A good coach can come in and make an immediate impact and build on top of what has been left behind.
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I think there are 3 choices that a new head coach will have when he comes in:

1) Tear it down to the studs and rebuild primarily with HS recruits. Takes the longest time. (The Edsall approach.)

2) Tear most of it down and heavily use the transfer portal for recruiting. A turnaround could happen quickly, but risky.

3) Keep developing the current young roster and bring in key recruits from the transfer portal. Probably the best way.


I think everyone needs to think about what the definition of success for a new coach. If he wins 4 games his first year, which doesn't imply a good team, we would think he is a success. Both Benedict and the new coach will know the expectations.

And, I think the 2020 recruiting class will be the cornerstone to the UConn turnaround. There were 25 recruits and 18 are playing right now as Freshmen who basically redshirted for a year and they still have 3 years of eligibility remaining.
 
metsfan2323 said:
I agree with that. Moorhead also won quickly at Fordham and MISS ST.

Edsall on the other hand famously went to Maryland and benched the ACC freshman of the year QB who ended up transferring. Edsall took a winning team at Maryland and took them backwards. He pulled the same crap when he took over at UCONN from Holtz.
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TBF he was brought in at Maryland to clean up the program from the previous regime. Everyone, but him knew he wasn't going to be successful there. LOL
 
LBird33 said:
Know sarcasm when you read it. LoL
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Sorry, I didn't. Sometimes it's hard to tell in print and I spend my life doling out sarcasm. To be fair, there are some interesting takes out here so I can't assume the crazy suggestion is automatically sarcasm. Toss me a wink next time. ;)
 
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Dubs said:
UConn will not find another coach under 55, willing to take less pay than a typical FBS coach (< 2.0 million, we also uhhh don't have money...)
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Sigh...

UConn is $4B enterprise. The have over $350M is cash and cash equivalents. So just from cash on hand they can a coach $2M for 175 years. Longer, assuming that the cash isn't just sitting in a desk drawer somewhere.

But don't take my word for it.... Link to financials
 
CL82 said:
Sigh...

UConn is $4B enterprise. The have over $350M is cash and cash equivalents. So just from cash on hand they can a coach $2M for 175 years. Longer, assuming that the cash isn't just sitting in a desk drawer somewhere.

But don't take my word for it.... Link to financials
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And those figures don’t include the $$$ in the Foundation!
 
Dubs said:
thanks for this post clarifying this info. Spanos has a great chance to be coach still and SHOULD BE. UConn will not find another coach under 55, willing to take less pay than a typical FBS coach (< 2.0 million, we also uhhh don't have money...), with NFL experience (20 years and 2 SB rings), College experience (UCLA, Alabama, etc.), and ENERGETIC and LIKED by the players and staff. Plus another change in leadership would mean another 1-2 extremely rough years as a mass exodus of young talent would be likely. Lou is young(ish) (comparatively speaking here to people with similar resumes) and this team is night and day from where it was the first few games. The energy, creativity, and experience he has brought is needed at a school like UConn. He checks all of the boxes and if he is retained there would be no aforementioned mass exodus and exhaustive "rebuild" again.. the current one would just continue....
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Pass on Spanos. Ya’ll need to take off the rose colored glasses. Wish him well, but he isn’t the answer
 
You only hire the interim when the previous HC had success and leaves for a "better" job. In that case the interim more than likely had success and everyone could support the hire. In this case the HC was for all intents and purposes fired and the interim was the coordinator of one of the worst defenses in the country.

Spanos is by all accounts a great person and generally successful coach, but he is not the answer now. That would be submitting to failure and Benedict and other major stakeholders have already stated their commitment to reviving the football team.
 
Tim Lester of Western Michigan is impressive today. Ball control chain moving offense and develops QB with a nice MAC opening win over Buffalo on the road. His current QB has a rating in the top 5 in CFB. He beat Pitt this year on the road; beat FCS by 4 TDS; good solid San Jose Team beat; and the previous HC Fleck has done well at the higher level. Lester was a HC at a D2 level. Defense looked solid. Heady play in the last 3 minutes. well spoken and late 40s.
 
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Nostical said:
We're not hiring Spanos.
We have the money.
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What kind of money?

Give a number for HC.

Give a number for coordinators.

Give a number for rest of asst. coach pool.
 
We’ve seen some really bizarre calls from the sidelines.

We’ve also seen some really poor unforced penalties from the players due to a lack of winning IQ and discipline.

What I like is the high tempo hurry up offense. In two weeks Neil Mizzone (/s) did more to fix this offense than this staff could do in two off seasons!

I’m not saying hire Neal. But damn if he can do that then there are more coaches out there than can do that and more.

We’re never going to bring in 4-5 star talent by the boat load, so we need schematic edge that makes us a tough out on offense. A high tempo no huddle can give us that and we have the players that can do it. AND it looks super sexy. It will get fannies in the seats.

So I want to see a coach that will bring that philosophy and immediately build on what have in the roster. If that’s Neil or someone like him then fine. We’ve can do worse, heck we HAVE done worse.

We had a guy who woke up up every morning thinking JZ was better than SK and The Puma. Amazing right?

TLDR:Get someone who is ready to go out and compete with what we have. Go up tempo and instill a “ph&ck around and find out mentality” with this team.
 
Chin Diesel said:
What kind of money?

Give a number for HC.

Give a number for coordinators.

Give a number for rest of asst. coach pool.
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2-2.5 mil for HC. and 4-5 mil for entire staff (total) is completely reasonable for UConn, especially if they're serious about football.
 
Sportsfan71 said:
Pass on Spanos. Ya’ll need to take off the rose colored glasses. Wish him well, but he isn’t the answer
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While I am not on the Spanos train at all, he knows more about football than any of us. So not rose colored just the man has two super bowl rings and has a clue and why he brought in Mazzone to help with the offense.
 
Jre2000 said:
2-2.5 mil for HC. and 4-5 mil for entire staff (total) is completely reasonable for UConn, especially if they're serious about football.
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$2.5 for staff is rough if UConn wants to succeed as an Indy.

Coordinators would be $500k-$700k each and at least 2-3 coaches are $250k each. There isn't any son of the coach discount. All other coaches are about $150k.

I think asst pool needs to be $3m minimum to hire a good staff.
 
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