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Successful? The last three years against the elite teams?
You mean the final four in all 3 years? Oh...and every year before that, which includes 4 straight NC's? Yeah, that is the definition of successful. Not everyone wins a NC, but he certainly does it quite often. If you are judging teams by their last 3 years, then no one is successful. Not even Dawn. It's been a crap shoot with anyone winning at any given time. Not one team has dominated, and I don't mean rankings by silly sports writers. Success goes hand in hand with consistency, and I think he's probably the most consistent coach of the last 20 years.
 

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You mean the final four in all 3 years? Oh...and every year before that, which includes 4 straight NC's? Yeah, that is the definition of successful. Not everyone wins a NC, but he certainly does it quite often. If you are judging teams by their last 3 years, then no one is successful. Not even Dawn. It's been a crap shoot with anyone winning at any given time. Not one team has dominated, and I don't mean rankings by silly sports writers. Success goes hand in hand with consistency, and I think he's probably the most consistent coach of the last 20 years.
I am not really talking about NC. The conversation was about UConn's struggling offense. I know about the 13 straight FF. No team has been successful, not even Dawn. You are citing something altogether different from my subject. You evidently did not understand my post. The last three years UConn offense has struggled against the elite teams and there is no question about that. As I said before prove me wrong and not by talking something that has nothing to do with my post. The successful was not about the the team's overall success. It was about the success of the offense. Take your time and read and comprehend. Also, Dawn's teams have been successful and so has Stanford and Baylor.
 
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One of the problems today is too many fans talk about history. Tennessee can do that and boast. What about lately. If your last sentence was true, there would be very few fans left. I have not seen any posts where a poster said they were abandoning the team.
Don’t look now but Tennessee is actually a threat again. Their patience is beginning to pay off.
 
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The problem why UConn isnt looking like UConn teams of the past is not anybodys fault.

The problems with this years team is a direct result of not having enough healthy guards. Guards run the offense and control the team as well as the game and tempo. Tack on that UConn has lost our NPY and having to start two players Caroline and Dorka who are learning Genos system as starters and not as subs. As starters they have no one to turn to when they miss a play or make a mistake. As subs they have 4 other players with experience to run the team and they can play without any pressure on them. If they screw up Geno yanks them and the coaches explain to them why they were yanked and explain what they should have done. Now with all the injuries, the team has to live with those mistakes and play through those mistakes. Dont forget either UConn is playing without their point guards that run the show and are now depending on Evina to run the point which is not her natural position. All the above is a direct result of injuries and Covid.

We now have a short bench which also does not have enough experience playing within Genos system. Sometimes they look lost on the floor because of that. Until it becomes reflexive where they dont have to think about it, they may be a liability to the team in the game. By starting players who dont know Genos system and have to learn it on the go. well that aint easy as we are witnessing, sometimes players are looking lost because they arent where theyre suppose to be or they just dont see plays developing until its to late. Not being able to execute within the system, or having to think about where to be, or what play is suppose to run run, while playing with 3 seniors who do, hurts team chemistry, confidence and continuity. That all breeds lack of confidence and lack of confidence breeds hesitation to react and to run plays ala flow of the offense and defense. UConn has many times in the past always started the season with a good nucleus of players who could play within Genos system. New players would learn the system by coming in off the bench for a few minutes. In past seasons Geno would recruit kids to come in and come off the bench to play when they learned in practice what was expected of them. Geno wins because he gets players that are coachable and if theyre not coachable they see less minutes. These kids are coachable which is a good thing. FWIW our nucleus next season will be Dorka, AAliyah, Caroline, Paige, Nika, Azzi, Griff and Amari. Piath when shes learns.

UConn has an unbelievable roster of talent and some of that talent is young and needs to be developed and once developed they will play with confidence knowing what to do. All this talk about Geno has to change. Geno has adapted to game changes or else his teams wouldnt be ranked in the top 4 every year and every year be thinking of winning a NC not just making the NCAAs or just making the Final 4. His records are proof. Geno attracts top players while other coaches have to recruit recruit recruit and other coaches know that Geno has the upper hand in most cases when recruiting because of what he can offer and he can offer as based on his record of being on TV, being in the NCAAs and being in the Final 4. Please stop talking about Geno needs to change. Right now Geno does not have the horses, he has the talent and much of that talent has to get healthy and the others have to learn his system or else it wont run properly. You take Paige Nika Azzi and Griff out of the lineup and those are four positions you have to fill with players who dont know the system well enough and thats where we are right now and why we're not what many of us are used to seeing and frustrated about.

Fans are talking about the seniors not steppin up this season with all the injuries. Well Geno is playing Caroline and Dorka who were not expected to start right away. They were suppose to come off the bench and be worked into the lineup. With the injuries they were thrown in to the lineup and had to learn Genos system on the run. Usually Geno would work them into the lineup without any pressure as his nucleus of players knew the system and would run it. Now we see Caroline and Dorka playing better which will take some of the pressure off our seniors and allow our seniors to play more efficiently. Opponents left Dorka and Caroline alone for the most part daring them to do something. That most likely wont happen as much now as both Caroline and Dorka have proved they can play within Genos system.

Genos system may need to be tweated each year but it is a proven system that works. This year is an odd year with KEY players out with injuries and Covid. Some other teams are not suffering with Key injuries like UConn has. For example how bout you take Boston and 2 starting guards out of the lineup for SC. How good would they look? How bout taking the top player and 2 starters off LVille or NC State or any other team. The so called problems at UConn arent problems you can blame on anybody.. The problem is KEY injuries to Key players and lack of experienced players knowing and running Genos system who are replacing them By lack of experience I'm talking about lack of experience in Genos system not lack of experience playing BB.

I have said this many times. When Azzi and Nika get back and up to speed UConn is gonna be very tuff to beat and when Paige gets back....well UConn may not loose a game for the rest of the season. UConn has way to many really good outside shooters, and Paige will be very difficult to contain. Couple that with our height that is now showing they can rebound and Caroline and Dorka both look like they are almost up to speed which will make defenses have to play us one on one.

Watching other games and I hear that Stanford is hurting because of lack of a good point guard and the same with SC and LVille doesnt have really good offense so their defense creates offense and what announcers are saying about what other teams lack. Well when healthy we have it all. We have shooters who can shoot and create and we have ball handlers and most other top teams cant compete with that. So yeah I will continue to believe we will win it all when healthy and up so to speed and if because no other team can put up the numbers we can when were healthy
Great read! One little thought: It might be a lack of comfort and/or lack of anticipation of how the play WILL develop. Paige anticipates how the play will open up because she knows what fakes/looks she is going to throw at the defense. Her play in the first half sets up what she has not shown the opponents to make it work in the third and fourth quarters. It is the "anticipation factor" that is missing currently, and makes it look like they are thinking too much and not reacting/playing with faith in each other for 40 minutes.

Anticipation (in the correct direction) by all of our five on the court causes the reaction time to be squeezed down to nearly nothing, and raises the speed of the game such that the opposing defense cannot handle the pace, and allows our defense to "jump" the passing lanes to start the fast break.

I know they have faith in each other, but there is no replacing Paige's instinct, passing ability, and taking advantage of what the defense is giving her & her teammates. Her vision of the court is second to none, and I miss her no-look passes...
Not sure we will see the gloriousness of this years team until Paige is back, but I look forward to seeing a spark and glimpses as Nike takes the court on Sunday.

Go Huskies!!!
 
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I am not really talking about NC. The conversation was about UConn's struggling offense. I know about the 13 straight FF. No team has been successful, not even Dawn. You are citing something altogether different from my subject. You evidently did not understand my post. The last three years UConn offense has struggled against the elite teams and there is no question about that. As I said before prove me wrong and not by talking something that has nothing to do with my post. The successful was not about the the team's overall success. It was about the success of the offense. Take your time and read and comprehend. Also, Dawn's teams have been successful and so has Stanford and Baylor.
When compared with the Stewie years, I would agree that our offense has struggled. So what? He’s supposed to duplicate an offense that was historically great with far lesser players? High expectations indeed! You notice we still won virtually every game with that “struggling” offense.
 
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Great read! One little thought: It might be a lack of comfort and/or lack of anticipation of how the play WILL develop. Paige anticipates how the play will open up because she knows what fakes/looks she is going to throw at the defense. Her play in the first half sets up what she has not shown the opponents to make it work in the third and fourth quarters. It is the "anticipation factor" that is missing currently, and makes it look like they are thinking too much and not reacting/playing with faith in each other for 40 minutes.

Anticipation (in the correct direction) by all of our five on the court causes the reaction time to be squeezed down to nearly nothing, and raises the speed of the game such that the opposing defense cannot handle the pace, and allows our defense to "jump" the passing lanes to start the fast break.

I know they have faith in each other, but there is no replacing Paige's instinct, passing ability, and taking advantage of what the defense is giving her & her teammates. Her vision of the court is second to none, and I miss her no-look passes...
Not sure we will see the gloriousness of this years team until Paige is back, but I look forward to seeing a spark and glimpses as Nike takes the court on Sunday.

Go Huskies!!!
Should be ...this year's team.... and ...as Nika takes the court....
 
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I’m REALLY tired of hearing over and over the blues regarding Paige’s absence.
Without her......
She sees.....
It all starts......
Well, LOOKIE HERE
You give me this roster with NINE (or 10 maybe) healthy players and we can beat ANYONE that I’ve seen play so far this year.
If she returns, great!
If not, just line the opponents up, and UCONN will take them down-one at a time.
 

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You had asked me what a jaded, entitled fan was. At NO time did I say it was anywhere near a majority of the fandom. But to ME, it does seem that a TOO large segment of the Boneyard thinks Geno should be put out to pasture. As for your question of what has the team done lately, particularly against top teams, it’s ludicrous to expect them to continue unchallenged through the years. It has never happened in any sport in history. Most “dynasties“ last maybe a decade, we’e been treated to nigh onto thirty years of fantastic basketball. We should rejoice every day, not bemoan it’s inevitable, eventual demise.
I agree but I'm not talking about the team's success, just the success of the offense. I would never complain about the team's overall success. You know UConn did not used to struggle to score 75 points against the better teams or you have not been following the team very long.
When compared with the Stewie years, I would agree that our offense has struggled. So what? He’s supposed to duplicate an offense that was historically great with far lesser players? High expectations indeed! You notice we still won virtually every game with that “struggling” offense.
Not against the elite teams. What good is a historically great offense with players who don't run it right? What is wrong with adjusting the offense to the talent you have? I know, UConn fans want to harp on the success of the past. That is what Tennessee did. They are just starting to come back.
 
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I am not really talking about NC. The conversation was about UConn's struggling offense. I know about the 13 straight FF. No team has been successful, not even Dawn. You are citing something altogether different from my subject. You evidently did not understand my post. The last three years UConn offense has struggled against the elite teams and there is no question about that. As I said before prove me wrong and not by talking something that has nothing to do with my post. The successful was not about the the team's overall success. It was about the success of the offense. Take your time and read and comprehend. Also, Dawn's teams have been successful and so has Stanford and Baylor.
I was responding to your one sentence reply. Over the last 3 years, SC, Baylor, I'll give you Stanford last year, but EVERY year, UConn has been quite successful right along side them, even with their "struggling offense" as you put it.
 
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I agree but I'm not talking about the team's success, just the success of the offense. I would never complain about the team's overall success. You know UConn did not used to struggle to score 75 points against the better teams or you have not been following the team very long.

Not against the elite teams. What good is a historically great offense with players who don't run it right? What is wrong with adjusting the offense to the talent you have? I know, UConn fans want to harp on the success of the past. That is what Tennessee did. They are just starting to come back.
If simply adjusting your offense will turn mediocre (comparatively) players into an offensive juggernaut I’m surprised everyone isn’t changing theirs! Tennessee is playing better because they have better players and better coaches. (Especially the coaches part)
 
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If simply adjusting your offense will turn mediocre (comparatively) players into an offensive juggernaut I’m surprised everyone isn’t changing theirs! Tennessee is playing better because they have better players and better coaches. (Especially the coaches part)
I respectfully disagree with your comment.
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Well said, Plebe... we each can remember our own Mrs. McRae. Fortunately, she doesn't appear to be on the Boneyard.
I teach grammar in elementary school and you all have me cracking up!! This isn’t the place to police grammar! Carry on, Tony!!
 

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I teach grammar in elementary school and you all have me cracking up!! This isn’t the place to police grammar! Carry on, Tony!!
Yesss ittttt issss.:p
 

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