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Bellechick might take Butler and throw him on Sanu and double Julio. He likes to throw wrinkles like that out there. He's come up with some strategies like that since the Giants DC against the Bills, when he said he wanted Thurman Thomas to run for 100.
 
mauconnfan said:
Bellechick might take Butler and throw him on Sanu and double Julio. He likes to throw wrinkles like that out there. He's come up with some strategies like that since the Giants DC against the Bills, when he said he wanted Thurman Thomas to run for 100.
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Not as unique as you might think. The 49ers did that to the Cowboys in 1994 - put Deion on Alvin Harper and doubled Irvin.
While it worked, the fact that they turned the ball over twice and got in a 21-0 hole in the 1st quarter probably had more to do with why they lost that game
 
I hope I'm wrong but, I just can't see that Pats losing this game, the closer we get to super bowl sunday, the more convinced I am the Pats will win this game. I think it will be fairly close and the Pats will control the game the score will look closer then it is. Ill go 30-20 Pats. It would be kind of cool to have the Giants being the only team to beat the Belichick-Brady duo in a Super Bowl.
 
mauconnfan said:
Bellechick might take Butler and throw him on Sanu and double Julio. He likes to throw wrinkles like that out there. He's come up with some strategies like that since the Giants DC against the Bills, when he said he wanted Thurman Thomas to run for 100.
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Im always interested to see those chess matches, going back to Super Bowl 42 the Giants keys were to stop Moss and Faulk, and let Welker get his catches and hammer him, of course it helped to have a pass rush too.

I think the Pats have an advantage in the fact that they dont have one receiver you can just key on not saying the Falcons dont have other receivers other then Julio because they do, the Pats have so many weapons Edelman, Bennett, Lewis, White, Mitchell, Floyd, Hogan, and Amendola is back (he can burn you deep). No pressure on Brady game over.
 
Could Nick Williams and Blidi be secret weapons, you never know.
 
Scoe said:
just can't see that Pats losing this game, the closer we get to super bowl sunday, the more convinced I am the Pats will win this game. I think it will be fairly close and the Pats will control the game the score will look closer then it is. Ill go 30-20 Pats. It would be kind of cool to have the Giants being the only team to beat the Belichick-Brady duo in a Super Bowl.
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This is the reason I'm thinking they blow it. With the NFL, whenever you think it's gonna happen, it doesn't.
 
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Scoe said:
I think the Pats have an advantage in the fact that they dont have one receiver you can just key on not saying the Falcons dont have other receivers other then Julio because they do, the Pats have so many weapons Edelman, Bennett, Lewis, White, Mitchell, Floyd, Hogan, and Amendola is back (he can burn you deep). No pressure on Brady game over.
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The one thing hurting the Falcons is that they really have only one real pass rush threat in Beasely. If they can't get pressure with the front 4, it could be a long night on D for Atlanta.

The Giants beat the Pats (esp with regards to 2007), because those front 4 could get pressure, without needing to blitz. If you blitz, Brady will find the mismatch and burn you.

Their offense has a crapload of weapons though...Jones, Sanu, Gabriel, Hooper, Robinson, and two dynamic backs in Freeman and Coleman. Ryan is very accurate and patient. I'm not really sure what BB can do to stop them.
 
Would love to see Atlanta win but the Pats will come out on top in a game that will not be close.
 
Danzz said:
Would love to see Atlanta win but the Pats will come out on top in a game that will not be close.
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I just don't know how all you guys are seeing this.
 
I hate to say it but the Patriots will win. Atlanta is not the type of team to beat the Pats. If Seattle or Green Bay were in the SB, they could win, but I don't trust a soft Atlanta team.
 
One thing for Atlanta to be concerned with is the Patriots receivers usually get a lot of yards after catch. Atlanta's defense was last in the NFL in YAC at 132.9 a game. Meanwhile the Patriots defense was first in YAC at 91.4 a game. Offensively they were close to the same. The Falcons were 2nd and the Pat's were 3rd.
 
Devland said:
One thing for Atlanta to be concerned with is the Patriots receivers usually get a lot of yards after catch. Atlanta's defense was last in the NFL in YAC at 132.9 a game. Meanwhile the Patriots defense was first in YAC at 91.4 a game. Offensively they were close to the same. The Falcons were 2nd and the Pat's were 3rd.
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Yeah, but they are really fast, and that can counteract the Pats smaller quicker receivers. Falcon's D has improved quite a bit in the last 8 games or so.

The one thing that's hard to gauge is, the Atlanta D has had the luxury of being ahead by a bunch, and playing accordingly. What happens when a team is keeping pace with them offensively. I don't know.

This is the type of team where not having Gronk could finally bite the Pats in the arse.
 
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intlzncster said:
Yeah, but they are really fast, and that can counteract the Pats smaller quicker receivers. Falcon's D has improved quite a bit in the last 8 games or so.

The one thing that's hard to gauge is, the Atlanta D has had the luxury of being ahead by a bunch, and playing accordingly. What happens when a team is keeping pace with them offensively. I don't know.

This is the type of team where not having Gronk could finally bite the Pats in the arse.
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It has improved but it's still not very good. You got this and all of you will be able to talk about Goodell handing the trophy to Brady blah blah blah...that's the main reason right there I'd like the Falcons to win, besides the others! :oops:
 
intlzncster said:
The one thing hurting the Falcons is that they really have only one real pass rush threat in Beasely. If they can't get pressure with the front 4, it could be a long night on D for Atlanta.

The Giants beat the Pats (esp with regards to 2007), because those front 4 could get pressure, without needing to blitz. If you blitz, Brady will find the mismatch and burn you.

Their offense has a crapload of weapons though...Jones, Sanu, Gabriel, Hooper, Robinson, and two dynamic backs in Freeman and Coleman. Ryan is very accurate and patient. I'm not really sure what BB can do to stop them.
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Absolutly, I just find it interesting that Kevin Faulk was one of the keys to stopping that Pats offense, rewatching that game aside from the Giants getting a pass rush, they also didnt allow any YAC from Faulk, Welker or Stallworth.
 
The more I read, the more I think this game is going to be a Patriots rout. ATL has been blitzing a ton more in the postseason and a) Brady's the best against the blitz, maybe ever and b) if they DON'T blitz, they can't pressure him with a traditional rush. Suicide by gun or by poison, you choose.

Also read up on how the Pats have been using Dion Lewis to control tempo and going more no huddle or up tempo, then exploiting the nickel packages and tired Def Lineman with draws and quick swing passes out of the backfield. Two weeks to watch film? No way Quinn outmaneuvers Brady/Belichick.

Looks like I'll be watching something else in the 2nd half.....
 
I also expect a Pats rout and am actually toying with the idea of making a major bet for the first time in decades.

Which means I must be wrong.
 
Scoe said:
Absolutly, I just find it interesting that Kevin Faulk was one of the keys to stopping that Pats offense, rewatching that game aside from the Giants getting a pass rush, they also didnt allow any YAC from Faulk, Welker or Stallworth.
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Faulk was underrated outside of New England. He turned into a fantastic all around player over his time with the Patriots. Definitely a key piece of the offense.
 
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intlzncster said:
Faulk was underrated outside of New England. He turned into a fantastic all around player over his time with the Patriots. Definitely a key piece of the offense.
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Very underrated
 
Charles Barkley picked the Falcons ok now I know the Pats are gonna win.
 
Deepster said:
The more I read, the more I think this game is going to be a Patriots rout. ATL has been blitzing a ton more in the postseason and a) Brady's the best against the blitz, maybe ever and b) if they DON'T blitz, they can't pressure him with a traditional rush. Suicide by gun or by poison, you choose.

Also read up on how the Pats have been using Dion Lewis to control tempo and going more no huddle or up tempo, then exploiting the nickel packages and tired Def Lineman with draws and quick swing passes out of the backfield. Two weeks to watch film? No way Quinn outmaneuvers Brady/Belichick.

Looks like I'll be watching something else in the 2nd half.....
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Is this some kind of reverse Mojo bullsh~t you are trying to summon? I feel like it is.

While I know you don't like the Pats, save that for the Huskies. You've got limited trips to the well, so to speak. No blowing that sh~t on other sports.
 
Deepster said:
The more I read, the more I think this game is going to be a Patriots rout.
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The more I read about this one, the more I'm getting worried. Lots of Pats articles saying slam dunk, especially in Boston media. Too many people on one side of the aisle. That usually means heart getting ripped out. The way of the NFL. Not feeling confident at the moment. Smells like 2007.
 
intlzncster said:
The more I read about this one, the more I'm getting worried. Lots of Pats articles saying slam dunk, especially in Boston media. Too many people on one side of the aisle. That usually means heart getting ripped out. The way of the NFL. Not feeling confident at the moment. Smells like 2007.
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Doubtful. The key to that game was the Giant's Defense. Atlanta does not have the talent on that side of the ball, IMO.
 
Deadrody said:
Doubtful. The key to that game was the Giant's Defense. Atlanta does not have the talent on that side of the ball, IMO.
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Oh sure, when I look at the analysis on paper, I can see a definite Patriots advantage. I'm simply testing the winds here, and not liking what I'm smelling.
 
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PATRIOTS - 37
FALCONES - 28
 
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