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You mean the 4 spot typically manned by LeBron and Durant prototypes, guys who can shoot 3's and take somebody off the dribble? Guys like Larrier?

Charles Oakley and Kevin McHale are not walking through that door.

Larrier has got the length and athleticism; he's just very skinny right now. On the other end of the court, his perimeter skills could open up the court nicely though for some driving lanes.

Fwiw I see Larrier ceiling as a Paul George type 3.
 
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Larrier has got the length and athleticism; he's just very skinny right now. On the other end of the court, his perimeter skills could open up the court nicely though for some driving lanes.

Fwiw I see Larrier ceiling as a Paul George type 3.

Paul George is a 4 in today's college game.

More importantly, if you put Larrier at the 3 you're getting zero offense from two positions instead of just one. Why handcuff ourselves? Make the opponent defend more of the floor.
 

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MD
Carlton

Cv with 25 or minutes as a sixth man. Larrier playing the 4 then. That will be our best lineup

Probably right, at least to start.

I'd guess the Larrier at the 4 lineup with 3 guards is our best, preferred lineup, but they probably won't start that small with that little guard depth on the bench.
 
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Paul George is a 4 in today's college game.

More importantly, if you put Larrier at the 3 you're getting zero offense from two positions instead of just one. Why handcuff ourselves? Make the opponent defend more of the floor.

If I were in Ollie position I would use this depending on match ups. I'd guess maybe 20 or 25 mins a game. I think we need one more guard to pull this off as much as I'd like
 
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Alterique Gilbert
Jalen Adams
Christian Vital
Terry Larrier
Mamadou Diarra

Exactly what I had in mind as my starting five. Didn't expect so much agreement. But to answer the thread's question, I'm not sure Ollie goes with this lineup.
 
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Paul George is a 4 in today's college game.

More importantly, if you put Larrier at the 3 you're getting zero offense from two positions instead of just one. Why handcuff ourselves? Make the opponent defend more of the floor.

We agree on what the best lineup appears to be. But KO is not going to start Larrier at the 4. We have precedent. I would be shocked. I get the George point but funny mentioning him since he has been adamant about not being a 4 and not wanting to play the 4.
 
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We agree on what the best lineup is and what it should be. But KO is not going to start Larrier at the 4. We have precedent. I would be shocked.

I hope he has learned.

I'm sick of being down 13-4 at the under-12 timeout because we started the game with two black holes on offense.
 
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I hope he has learned.

I'm sick of being down 13-4 at the under-12 timeout because we started the game with two black holes on offense.

We would have 1 guard on the bench in this scenario. We need to see how the big men actually play, and need to fill out the roster before our guesses have any validity whatsoever.

I hope Polley ends up being too good to keep off the floor. I think we both would love the idea of having two 6'8 skilled guys manning the 3-4 providing tons of switching ability on defense and versatility on offense.

Having 2 big men to start the game is not a death knell. They don't need to be scoring threats. We are jaded because we hare now accustomed to seeing a frontcourt full of guys with low offensive IQ and very subpar passing ability. Carlton and Cobb are not lauded recruits but they have been touted as being good passers. This would be a big start.
 
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Ag/ Anderson
JA/ Anderson
CV/ Polley
Larrier/ Polley
Cobb/Carlton/Diarra whoever emerges.

Hopefully Polley is as good as I think.
 
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lol this will get interesting quickly. whoever is healthy

but as of now adams, gilbert, vital, larrier, cobb

Tough to stay competitive on the glass with that lineup. It doesn't really matter who you throw out there though. This team is going to struggle to win 15 games.
 
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I'm going a little bigger with JA, CV, TL, MD, and EC. My hopes are Cobb and Carlton can at least not be terrible and that Diarra is a disruptive force at the 4. We have 4 guys who would play big minutes on most teams. Our season is dependent on the unknowns. Can Polley be as good a freshman Jackson (though he wont see those type of minutes)? Are an in shape Cobb and a freshman Carlton better options than SE and JD would have been? The offseason is for optimists like myself so I'm counting on a few pleasant surprises from our question marks. Although in full disclosure as a casual fan I have not see any of the new guys play.
 
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We agree on what the best lineup appears to be. But KO is not going to start Larrier at the 4. We have precedent. I would be shocked. I get the George point but funny mentioning him since he has been adamant about not being a 4 and not wanting to play the 4.
Why? He started Larrier at the power forward last year with RP at sf and ag and ja at the guards. Why are so many people hung up on traditional big pf starting there. The college and pro games have changed from this idea. This also gives our best players on the court at once. Though I do agree we need another guard/sf to run this.
 
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Why? He started Larrier at the power forward last year with RP at sf and ag and ja at the guards. Why are so many people hung up on traditional big pf starting there. The college and pro games have changed from this idea. This also gives our best players on the court at once.

Did you read my post? I don't think what you think I think. This is me predicting what KO will do.

When did he start Larrier at the 4? Pretty sure you're wrong...
 
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Did you read my post? I don't think what you think I think. This is me predicting what KO will do.

When did he start Larrier at the 4? Pretty sure you're wrong...
Beginning of last year or at least this was his primary lineup he used early on before the injuries. We can't have 2 black holes on offense.
 

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My guess is that Larrier will play more four (~20 minutes per game) than three (~10-12 minutes per game).
 
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would not be surprised if starting five is shuffled all season, especially with players coming back from injuries and the inexperience of others. Only true fixture barring injury is Adams.
 
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I like coming in with an underdog mentality. Forget this "top 5" were going to make the final 4, preseason ranked nonsense.

Let's see us get in the tourney, make the sweet 16 and get back on the CBB map.

Many teams play best angry and with their backs against the wall. My teams certainly always have.

The reality is that were making excuses to say we will stink already. We have the pieces to be a top 50 team. Teams have succeeded with much less. Uconn has succeeded with less.
 
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Cv with 25 or minutes as a sixth man. Larrier playing the 4 then. That will be our best lineup
I like this lineup because it also utilizes what depth we have, the best. There will be 3-guard lineups, at times, with Vital and Anderson in the mix also for backup minutes. Diarra looks like the first forward off the bench and Polley and Whaley will get minutes at the 3 in bigger lineups and the 4 in smaller lineups. Cobb will get 15 minutes a game at the 5.

As mentioned in a previous thread, I like the diversity of depth that we have. You can argue that each player brings something unique to the table that no other guy on the team has.
 
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I like this lineup because it also utilizes what depth we have, the best. There will be 3-guard lineups, at times, with Vital and Anderson in the mix also for backup minutes. Diarra looks like the first forward off the bench and Polley and Whaley will get minutes at the 3 in bigger lineups and the 4 in smaller lineups. Cobb will get 15 minutes a game at the 5.

As mentioned in a previous thread, I like the diversity of depth that we have. You can argue that each player brings something unique to the table that no other guy on the team has.

That's what I mean when I say we have the pieces to be successful. Sure, there's real weaknesses to scheme around, but we also have a top notch staff making bank roll.

One thing I do like is that this isn't just an "NBA looking" line up. Brimah (who I think is an awesome guy!) Looked the part of an NBA player without the skill. Jackson looked like an NBA forward without the speed. Facey without the confidence or iq.

Not all of our players now may not be future pros or a superstars, but they seem to be gym rats with a few valuable skills. Mix that in with out stars (Adams, larrier) and you have the chance to be a good team.
 

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PG Alterique Gilbert | Antwoine Anderson
SG Jalen Adams | Christian Vital
SF Terry Larrier | Tyler Polley
PF Mamadou Diarra | Isaiah Whaley
C Eric Cobb | Josh Carlton

Or...

PG Alterique Gilbert | Antwoine Anderson
SG Jalen Adams
SF Christian Vital | Tyler Polley
PF Terry Larrier | Isaiah Whaley
C Eric Cobb | Mamadou Diarra | Josh Carlton
 
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PG Alterique Gilbert | Antwoine Anderson
SG Jalen Adams | Christian Vital
SF Terry Larrier | Tyler Polley
PF Mamadou Diarra | Isaiah Whaley
C Eric Cobb | Josh Carlton

Or...

PG Alterique Gilbert | Antwoine Anderson
SG Jalen Adams
SF Christian Vital | Tyler Polley
PF Terry Larrier | Isaiah Whaley
C Eric Cobb | Mamadou Diarra | Josh Carlton

If we start a 3 guard lineup, as many on the board think we should/will....getting a 5th guard (Moretti???) becomes that much more important. I see Polley as much more of a 4 than a 3 in our system - game is a carbon copy of DD's.
 
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I see us going to the 3 guard lineup with Vital but not starting games with it. I don't think we can rebound without 2 bigs Diarra and Cobb in there, hence our problem. We are in need of bodies.
 
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Right now you gotta go this way (because the pups are redshirt frosh coming off injury):

JA
CV
Larrier
Cobb
Carlton

once our rotation settles I can see:
AG
JA
CV
Larrier
Cobb
 
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Gilbert
Adams
Vital
Larrier
Diarra

Against big teams:
Gilbert
Adams
Larrier
Diarra
Cobb
 
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Ill be interested to see how UCONN alters their lineup when they play UC.
UC will have a 6'1 PG, 6'5 SG, 6'6 SF, 6'8 PF and 6'9 PF all of which can shoot and stretch the floor.

For scoring, uconn's best lineup will have to include larrier, gilbert, adams and vital but man, it creates some odd matchups. I guess you would have Gilbert guard Cane Broome, Vital guard Cumberland, Adams guard Evans and then put Larrier on Gary Clark and Diarra/Carlton on Washington.

I think Larrier would do a better job on Clark than Brimah did.

However the issue with starting Vital is: Who will score for them from the bench? They may need to just run out a 2 big lineup to spread some scoring wealth to the bench
 

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