Which BIg East program steps up?

[FriarJ]

I'm going to give you some Boneyard advice. Don't bother arguing with him. Many people on here put him on ignore or just don't read his posts. You ever argue with a 4 year old? Yeah, same thing here. It's just not worth the effort.

He is po'd and hasn't been able to get over whatever it is, so he brings these ridiculous claims time and time again to this board to try and justify his anger. His comment about ww2 facilities is ridiculous and shows he's just flinging crap against the wall. Nova, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, Georgetown, and PC all have top notch facilities.

 

[Zissou]

He is po'd and hasn't been able to get over whatever it is, so he brings these ridiculous claims time and time again to this board to try and justify his anger. His comment about ww2 facilities is ridiculous and shows he's just flinging crap against the wall. Nova, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette, Georgetown, and PC all have top notch facilities.

It has always been a unique aspect of the Big East that we play in pro markets. I might miss something here, going off the top of my head, but Big East teams that play in active or former pro arenas: Nova, Georgetown, St Johns, Seton Hall, UConn, Marquette. DePaul (brand new), Creighton, and X have great facilities. Butler plays in a historic basketball shrine. Prov has the Dunk.

Of all the things to complain about, it’s playing in mostly NBA arenas?

If you are road-tripping to visit us this year, we welcome you to the Wells Fargo Center complex. WFC is home of the Sixers and the complex has shared parking with the Phils and Eagles. The XFINITY LIVE party complex ties them all together with bars, beer halls, and restaurants with a central mall with a 40 foot screen for pregame, postgame, and those that don’t score tickets. We also tailgate year round, so no worries that the date is Feb 5, load up the tailgate.

 

[FriarJ]

It has always been a unique aspect of the Big East that we play in pro markets. I might miss something here, going off the top of my head, but Big East teams that play in active or former pro arenas: Nova, Georgetown, St Johns, Seton Hall, UConn, Marquette. DePaul (brand new), Creighton, and X have great facilities. Butler plays in a historic basketball shrine. Prov has the Dunk.

Of all the things to complain about, it’s playing in mostly NBA arenas?

If you are road-tripping to visit us this year, we welcome you to the Wells Fargo Center complex. WFC is home of the Sixers and the complex has shared parking with the Phils and Eagles. The XFINITY LIVE party complex ties them all together with bars, beer halls, and restaurants with a central mall with a 40 foot screen for pregame, postgame, and those that don’t score tickets. We also tailgate year round, so no worries that the date is Feb 5, load up the tailgate.

I wasn’t even referring to where we each play.

 

[Zissou]

I wasn’t even referring to where we each play.

Right. Beyond where we play, good facilities! Nova has the Davis Center for basketball operations.

 

[freescooter]

Lol. What programs are you ranking above Nova since 2014?

You do know the NCAA tournament structure, right? Nova has to buzz through the Big 12, the ACC, and the Big Ten to win those titles. It’s not like you win your conference and you are anointed national champion.

When was the last Big Ten title?

You spout final fours to measure conference excellence and then you dismiss success unless you win it all with asking “Who finished 2nd in the American League last year?” That would literally be the final four of baseball.

I’d agree Marquette isn’t a blue blood, but that’s a short list. It’s not a program with asterisks on its seasons either. Regardless, it has a title in its history, it’s a contender, and it has a very good name coach.

You seem to also discount Butler’s and UConn’s final four histories, and UConn’s championships. And Georgetown went to a final four in 2007.

Who is Big Time big enough for you?

The Big East is a top 2-4 conference in any reasonable discussion. That’s not high level enough for you? Where do you think UConn belongs? Where do you think the other Flagship universities in New England belong?

LOL, I guess reading comprehension isn’t required to graduate from Villanova. I have said time and time again Villanova is the exception. It was a top program in the Big East. It is a top program in the NEWBIE. A national level power.

The rest just aren’t. Not to say somebody might not have a dream season, but if they do, it’s pretty likely the coach will be somewhere else the following year.

That’s Butler. That’s Marquette. And none of those have been more than meh since the formation of the NEWBIE. UConn is a special case I think. The Huskies were a true elite program for 25 years. But since then they have ranged from just another average program to pretty terrible at the end of the Ollie era. The next few years will tell I think, whether they return to that level or just hang around as a typical NEWBIE where an NCAA bid is considered a great season. I’m not confident that they didn’t make this move as the equivalent of Miami’s to the ACC. It was too damned hard to be a great program. They can be very average and still get noticed in the NEWBIE. As I said, we‘ll see.

Oh, and wake me when Creighton does something memorable.

 

[MJ1]

Unfree scooter, it’s not that he gets it, he just can’t sell it!! Nice try though.

 

[freescooter]

The thing I really don’t get is why people are so defensive of the NEWBIE. I’m a UConn fan and I don’t particularly like that they are now competing in a mediocre regional league at a huge cost to every other program and which I think will ultimately hold back basketball too. But if you think the NEWBIE is the #2 conference in the country (LOL, I guess if you don’t count the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC and PAC it might be) and you are a UConn fan why do you feel the burning need to defend the likes of Butler and Seton Hall? And people want to add St Louis or Dayton, because I guess they figure UMaine Farmington won’t upgrade. Athletic teams in conferences tend toward the mean, I think. It takes incedible effort to do what Gonzaga does when you play more than half your games against San Diego and Pacific. Same goes for Villanova when you play the likes of Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul. The NEWBIE didn’t take UConn because they needed an odd number of teams, they took UConn because the needed another team that people had heard of who they hoped might challenge Villanova in what had become a very lackluster league. I don’t like it because I think it hurt all our programs. And I think UConn doesn’t belong in the company of a bunch of regional city universities and commuter schools.

 

[MJ1]

I just happen to feel the new Big East and Independent football is the way to go. Best of both worlds. Keeps UCONN alive for a P4 invite in 10 years when when the next big realignment hits. Basketball, Better recruiting, less travel, teams that have history, and finishing the season at the Garden the best College basketball tournament in the country. UCONN has 8 years in Football to turn it around and make the push for P4, stop losing to Holy cross and UMASS and be relevant again. The next coaching hire will determine our fate.
The American is dead, get over it!

 

[Guapo]

The thing I really don’t get is why people are so defensive of the NEWBIE. I’m a UConn fan and I don’t particularly like that they are now competing in a mediocre regional league at a huge cost to every other program and which I think will ultimately hold back basketball too. But if you think the NEWBIE is the #2 conference in the country (LOL, I guess if you don’t count the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC and PAC it might be) and you are a UConn fan why do you feel the burning need to defend the likes of Butler and Seton Hall? And people want to add St Louis or Dayton, because I guess they figure UMaine Farmington won’t upgrade. Athletic teams in conferences tend toward the mean, I think. It takes incedible effort to do what Gonzaga does when you play more than half your games against San Diego and Pacific. Same goes for Villanova when you play the likes of Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul. The NEWBIE didn’t take UConn because they needed an odd number of teams, they took UConn because the needed another team that people had heard of who they hoped might challenge Villanova in what had become a very lackluster league. I don’t like it because I think it hurt all our programs. And I think UConn doesn’t belong in the company of a bunch of regional city universities and commuter schools.

It’s incredible that people are so willing to embarrass themselves like this in such a public manner

 

[UCSouth]

It’s incredible that people are so willing to embarrass themselves like this in such a public manner

It's easy when they are nameless and faceless.

 

[Samoo]

The Big 10 hasn’t won a National Championship in 22 years. Nova and UConn have won multiple in that span. Two top teams and a very respectable cast of Big East teams makes the league as competitive as the other Power 5 leagues.

High majors is a much better term for cbb.

 

[Zissou]

“Villanova... It was a top program in the Big East. It is a top program in the (Big East). A national level power.”

At least that part is on target.

 

[Guapo]

The thing I really don’t get is why people are so defensive of the NEWBIE. I’m a UConn fan and I don’t particularly like that they are now competing in a mediocre regional league at a huge cost to every other program and which I think will ultimately hold back basketball too. But if you think the NEWBIE is the #2 conference in the country (LOL, I guess if you don’t count the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC and PAC it might be) and you are a UConn fan why do you feel the burning need to defend the likes of Butler and Seton Hall? And people want to add St Louis or Dayton, because I guess they figure UMaine Farmington won’t upgrade. Athletic teams in conferences tend toward the mean, I think. It takes incedible effort to do what Gonzaga does when you play more than half your games against San Diego and Pacific. Same goes for Villanova when you play the likes of Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul. The NEWBIE didn’t take UConn because they needed an odd number of teams, they took UConn because the needed another team that people had heard of who they hoped might challenge Villanova in what had become a very lackluster league. I don’t like it because I think it hurt all our programs. And I think UConn doesn’t belong in the company of a bunch of regional city universities and commuter schools.

Do you think we should have stayed in the crumbling AAC? Do you think there’s an invite from the ACC or BIG that we’re declining? Why did Hurley choose UConn over Pitt? Do you have brain worms? Do you need us to send help?

 

[Tiamat7]

The various monikers of the so-called New Big East is a waste of time. It's a high major, power 6.

Every conference has evolved over the decades. Let's put the Newbie / Zombie names to rest. Everyone knows the original BE was special.

It's the Big East conference in 2021. Get over it.

 

[freescooter]

The NEWBIE, as I said at the beginning, is like the kid who gets into Harvard because there is a dorm named for his maternal great grandfather. Villanova is the older brother who got into Penn on his own merit.

 

[FriarJ]

The NEWBIE, as I said at the beginning, is like the kid who gets into Harvard because there is a dorm named for his maternal great grandfather. Villanova is the older brother who got into Penn on his own merit.

And you are like the crazy uncle that everybody wishes would stop talking crazy at the family gatherings. But in the end we just ignore crazy old Uncle freescooter.

 

[navery12]

Jaquan Sanders decommits from St. John's, things seem a bit unstable there.