Which Big East Program is most negatively affected by the Pitino hire?

[RayIsTheGOAT]

Don't disagree that Pitino is a grand slam hire, but him taking Iona to the tournament isn't the accomplishment it's being made out to be. Iona made the tournament in 4 out of the previous 5 seasons before Pitino took over.

I see your point.
But, alternatively, they were 14-17 the year before he got there, and the year before that had a losing record before miraculously winning the conference tournament. He made them a significantly better team.

Regardless, the point is that he can still coach at an extremely high level. It’s not like he’s Boeheim who reached his 70s and lost touch with the modern game.

 

[Huskyforlife]

St Johns will jump Villanova

They’re about to jump everyone.

 

[gsmooth]

After which the SJ AD said it would be brought back on campus.

oh boo, blaaah if the SJ AD really said that. That's bush league.

 

[gsmooth]

Love it!

 

[St Johns]

Posh will not be back FYI. Pitino has no tolerance for his weed addiction, and broken jumper. Pretty much the entire team will be gone besides Soriano, Drissa, and Kolby King from what I've heard. And that's Rick's choice not theirs.

I expect to be big players with Boogie Fland, and probably will take Clayton from Iona as well.

 

[Hurleyman216]

St. John’s is a glorified community college, it’s not for everyone. Can he get them back into the top 25? Maybe, but I don’t expect them to be world beaters either. St. John’s is still limited by them being St. John’s, it’s not 1985 anymore.

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

St. John’s is a glorified community college, it’s not for everyone. Can he get them back into the top 25? Maybe, but I don’t expect them to be world beaters either. St. John’s is still limited by them being St. John’s, it’s not 1985 anymore.

It’s all about NIL now. And they are going to have more than plenty of it if Mike Repole holds his word.

Oh yeah, and they’re in NYC and coached by a Hall of Famer. They’re going to be a force to be reckoned with.

I’m sure Pitino has facility-related requests built into his contract, too.

 

[UCfor3]

They’re about to jump everyone.

That's a little strong. They will be at the top with us and a few others most years. To say they are the top of the heap before it even begins is a bit much.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Ripper32]

It’s all about NIL now. And they are going to have more than plenty of it if Mike Repole holds his word.

Oh yeah, and they’re in NYC and coached by a Hall of Famer. They’re going to be a force to be reckoned with.

I’m sure Pitino has facility-related requests built into his contract, too.

I'm thinking that they will renovate Taffner Field House or build a new facility.

 

[gsmooth]

It’s all about NIL now. And they are going to have more than plenty of it if Mike Repole holds his word.

Oh yeah, and they’re in NYC and coached by a Hall of Famer. They’re going to be a force to be reckoned with.

I’m sure Pitino has facility-related requests built into his contract, too.

And that's the big thing. St. John's has high school like facilities. They improve that, yes they will take off. People shouldn't get fooled by their #8 finish in the Big East. They were competitive for the most part against almost all the other teams in the BE. The only exceptions I would say are Xavier and Creighton. Creighton has really had their number the last few seasons.

 

[gsmooth]

Posh will not be back FYI. Pitino has no tolerance for his weed addiction, and broken jumper. Pretty much the entire team will be gone besides Soriano, Drissa, and Kolby King from what I've heard. And that's Rick's choice not theirs.

I expect to be big players with Boogie Fland, and probably will take Clayton from Iona as well.

hmm... so that means AJ Storr won't be back according to what you heard. I think AJ Storr would look great in a UConn Huskies uniform. What do you all think?

 

[HooperScooper]

Pitino isn't messing around. Even going after committed recruits. Although it doesn't say he's specifically going after Jackson. Could be looking at someone else there.

 

[Demo Square]

Rick Pitino will take away recruits from EVERY Big East Team. Any NYC kid -especially the guards - who wants to stay home & play in MSG - will give Rick Pitino the first look. He will definitely take recruits away from Danny Hurley, who btw has almost zero post-season success at any level, despite his father's excellence.

Pitino is actually more personable than Danny Hurley too & can charm anyone. He builds the confidence of every one of his players. There would be no Hawk or AJAX head cases under his watch. Ha! And isn't he quick to react in-game?!?

Prediction: Rick Pitino will own the NIL.

RE: Pitino's past peccadilloes: He's 70 now. Has all the money, racehorses, properties & investments in the world. Could take any job. Has less testosterone now & hopefully will make wiser choices off court.

More importantly, he's about to patrol the sidelines of The Lou Carnesseca Court! That means something very special to all NY area players, hoops fans & coaches. Pitino's a certifiable Basketball Lifer. Still hungry AND SHARP at 70! How many of us can say that about our passions?

Ricky literally learned the game every summer of his youth at places like the LUHI camp out on Long Island in the 60's, where Looie was the main draw even before he succeeded Joe Lapchick at SJU in '65. Also featured at that camp? Young Army coach Bobby Knight (as violent & crazy as ever even as a young man teaching us D). John Kresse, assistant coach to Looie at SJU, who put C of Charleston on the map as its all-time winningest coach. Butch van breda Kolff who coached Bradley to a third place NCAA finish at Princeton & had the balls to bench Wilt in a game 7 coaching the Lakers, NYU's Lou Rossini, Frank Layden of Niagara & Utah Jazz fame (funniest guy in the world -also crazy) & most of the best HS & college assistants in the NYC area. Plus many great NBA & college players. Long Island's best players went there to check out the competition & learn the nuances. Ricky went there to brown-nosed all the coaches. What a charmah! What a shooter!

I can still remember the crazed Looie running on to the court during the afternoon games to give Little Ricky his boot in the ass to hustle more in the heat. NOTE: If you didn't get your Looie boot for the day, you felt unloved. HA!

So let's forget all that past heinous Ricky stuff & look at how good Rick Pitino is at quickly recruiting his guys at every stop, molding, motivating & creatively coaching them into big-time winners, & winning 25+ games per year on his way to the tournament every year. He's THAT GOOD. And HE'S MOTIVATED by one last hurrah! He's Home.

So watch out for Pitino BE teams.

Pitino is adding to the high quality of coaches enjoyed by the current BE. His return harkens back to the legendary BE coaches of the past. If he can get the Johnnies (& their fans) back into the Garden for most home games & tournaments, then it will be very interesting when the UConn Huskies & our fans come to town. Huh?

Pitino WILL hurt the recruiting of every BE team. But his presence with elevate everything about our strong league - including even more national interest. I can see how Pitino's presence will elevate the game, the players, the playing, the TV contracts, the competition, & even programs like DePaul in the future. Right? But it might be too much to ask for an improvement in BE officiating at UConn games, huh? Ha!

So Pitino will also be GREAT for every BE team too.

Eh, let's kick some Huskies. We have a chance to win it all again!

Father Demo

 

[Demo Square]

hmm... so that means AJ Storr won't be back according to what you heard. I think AJ Storr would look great in a UConn Huskies uniform. What do you all think?

Posh Alexander can't shoot the ball at all from the outside. Everyone of Pitino's guards can shoot the three (at the end of games), press all night, are tough minded & confident, and...never get tired! Ricky corners that market - & there are tons of them in NYC. A whole new roster around Soriano is what I've heard is happening.

Storrs could stick. But he's a streaky shooter. Good athlete at 6'6".

I would hope that incredible ball-handler/point guard Andre Curbelo could stick too, but he proved to be a poor shooter & finisher at the college level, despite his passing & vision. A Ricky Guy? Who knows?

Father Demo

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Pitino isn't messing around. Even going after committed recruits. Although it doesn't say he's specifically going after Jackson. Could be looking at someone else there.

Or he is wasting his time.

 

[Demo Square]

St. John’s is a glorified community college, it’s not for everyone. Can he get them back into the top 25? Maybe, but I don’t expect them to be world beaters either. St. John’s is still limited by them being St. John’s, it’s not 1985 anymore.

It's NYC money, baby!

 

[BGesus4]

Pitino isn't messing around. Even going after committed recruits. Although it doesn't say he's specifically going after Jackson. Could be looking at someone else there.

Already tweeting at J Cole — St John’s alum and obviously loves basketball. This man knows what he’s doing and has been champing at the bit for years (maybe in 15 second intervals)

 

[caw]

Yeah, but BE teams have to carry some weight out of conference also. At least three BE teams were underseeded because of how teams played OOC. Not sure Marquette could have gone higher than a two, or I would say four teams. PC was pretty accurate also. UConn, X and Creighton all were lower than they should have been IMO if even just the other top teams carried their own weight OOC. Doesn't seem to matter now, but it's still annoying.

Cooley can't pull a PC OOC schedule and results again. Pitino I am less worried about.

Pitino isn't messing around. Even going after committed recruits. Although it doesn't say he's specifically going after Jackson. Could be looking at someone else there.

This I love. I called for him to do this right away. With UNC floundering and a good option close to home, Jackson has to think about it with one of the best coaches still coaching D1.

 

[BGesus4]

Yeah, but BE teams have to carry some weight out of conference also. At least three BE teams were underseeded because of how teams played OOC. Not sure Marquette could have gone higher than a two, or I would say four teams. PC was pretty accurate also. UConn, X and Creighton all were lower than they should have been IMO if even just the other top teams carried their own weight OOC. Doesn't seem to matter now, but it's still annoying.

Cooley can't pull a PC OOC schedule and results again. Pitino I am less worried about.



This I love. I called for him to do this right away. With UNC floundering and a good option close to home, Jackson has to think about it with one of the best coaches still coaching D1.

Jackson also trains with Brickley who's tight with Pitino from playing at Louisville

 

[Waquoit]

Pitino at SJU is like Mora at UConn. It's their last job, they can coach, they still have gas in the tank and they want eventually leave coaching on a high note. Like after rebuilding something. Pitino is already a formidable opponent. If he ends up with Boogie, the answer to the OP is UConn! Seton Hall was never getting a Boogie.

 

[How Sway?!]

If you look at the 247 top 100 players for 2023 from the Northeast, the Big East struck out. There are plenty of players available for Pitino to grab for St. John's without hurting any Big East team. Here is the 247 top 100 and where they are going:

2. NJ - Kentucky
3. PA - Kentucky
4. NJ - Kentucky
7. NJ - Duke
11. MD - Oregon
22. NJ - Kansas
27. MA- Duke
33. MD - UConn
35. NJ - Virginia
36. NJ - UNC
43. MD - Illinois
51. CT - Rutgers
59. NY - UCLA
61. ME - Tennessee
65. MD - College of Charleston
66. VT - FSU
75. MA - Marquette
80. NY - Memphis
90. MD - LSU
91. MA - Xavier
95. MD - Pitt
97. NY - Alabama

Any chance Pitino can flip any of these guys?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Rick Pitino will take away recruits from EVERY Big East Team. Any NYC kid -especially the guards - who wants to stay home & play in MSG - will give Rick Pitino the first look. He will definitely take recruits away from Danny Hurley, who btw has almost zero post-season success at any level, despite his father's excellence.

I actually thought you'd dial this back after you spent all of last week telling anyone who'd listen that Pitino and mighty Iona were going to put UConn in a garbage can.

 

[Scrutineer]

That's my pick other than Providence for the most hurt by Cooley to Georgetown and Pitino to St. John's. Nova went from having the best coach in the country to the most unproven coach in the Big East along with Stubblefield at DePaul and Neptune is getting off to a really bad start. Overwhelming majority of their recruits come from a 3 hour radius of DC.

Agreed. They made a politically correct, but unproven, hire.
Poor guy had to step into the guaranteed failure shoes all newbies step into when replacing a legend. He looked lost at the end of the year and Cooley going to DC will really hurt his chances at maintaining their regional recruiting dominance.