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I’ll go get the time machine.
Where would you like to see UConn be in football?
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Aloha,
FCS.
Sure, we'd all love to see UConn's football program be able to compete at the level of most upper level FBS state schools, in major conferences, with an established ongoing tradition of success & great rivalries.
However, that will never happen.
The Case for FCS. Evidence from the field? We've been amongst the 'Bottom 10' FBS teams for a long time now with no light on the horizon. From ESPN:
3. U-Can't (1-2)
The Huskies: Eastern Division have settled into their role as the 2019 college football "We're the guys to get you back on track" frustration releasers. After being embarrassed by Ohio State, Indiana thumped UConn 38-3. Now the Huskies will face UC(not S)F, which just suffered its first loss in nearly three years. The following week they get US(not C)F, which just ended an eight-game losing streak and is fighting to salvage its pride and its season. According to sources, in October UConn will be forced to face the Cleveland Browns, New York Knicks, Miami Marlins and the filmmakers responsible for the "Game of Thrones" finale.
More Reasons for FCS: UConn has $40 million in athletic debt (mostly due to football) with a state government that is economically paralyzed. That demands immediate action. Now!
UConn offers recruits a cold, isolated Northeast location that does not produce big-time football players in numbers & cannot attract them from Florida & other football states that do. Most UConn football recruits have been FCS-level players for a long time now. Admit it! Many high school QB's are much better than UConn's QB's this year.
FBS Football conferences avoided UConn football, even with our historically great basketball teams to bring along. We lost - because of our lousy football teams & their inability to make money for anyone. Move on. Going the AAC route was expedient but not the right answer, especially for balancing budgets.
Almost ten years of losing under several terrible coaches.
Fans struggling to see improvement where there is none this year, or last year, or the year before, etc.
No big-time FBS budget to attract the better coaches.
Disinterested fans & sponsors. Connecticut is not a football state.
The Rent is in the middle of nowhere East Hartford far from campus.
If you think that FBS Independent is the cure, just take a look at UMass or other independents that are bad on the field & have little name recognition (most really). What? Get paid to be a perennial loser to better schools?
Worse still, UConn's overall ratings are going south quickly due to economic shortfalls (hurt by football). The list of reasons why UConn football cannot make it in FBS goes on and on.
Solution: Join the FCS and especially the CAA conference. That should be UConn football's immediate goal & action. We'd be competitive or better right away & the FCS is a great fit for UConn's FCS level of players & coaches. Better yet, it fits our athletic budget.
Cut the losses UConn! Build back the old regional rivalries that fans could easily care about once again. Stop the insane traveling for the losing football team, even to the midwest. Balance the budget. That plan makes sense for the short-term & the long.
It's not what we'd ideally want. It's what works for what UConn football truly has become. FCS!
alohachris
UConn's calling card has long been basketball. The move to the Big East confirms that & I applaud the move. Old time tackle football has peaked as a sport. Why invest in it?
AlohaChris, if they ever dropped to FCS, we should drop Football and start a lacrosse team, water polo, and wrestling...
What I think is that we can become a good FB team. I doubt if they drop to FCS, you'll see many people at games. You didn't before when they played UMass, URI or Maine, now after being spoiled with home games against ND, Michigan, Indiana, you think people will go and watch UConn vs New Hampshire? No, FCS is a money losing event...
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Whaler, I posted IF UCONN WENT TO THE FCS, WE SHOULD DROP IT AND ADD LAX AND WATER POLO...Some schools do have water polo in the Northeast... I hope UConn won't go FCS...
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Yes, I did...sorry. I shouldn't have said moron...Going to fix it...Just did... Thanks, Medic for telling me that I shouldn't name call...
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if they drop football... it’s to stop losing money.
so why would they then spend money to add ridiculous sports.
please someone make it stop
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@whaler11, I bet you were one of the Whalers 'fans' who decided that when they traded Ulf, Ronnie and Grant to the Penquins you decided to abandon them. I know alot of 'fans' who did and I bet you were one of them.
FCS football is a money loser. LAX is a sport that is growing. High School LAX is growing in Florida and in California, so if you talk about UConn losing money now, it will lose more in FCS, since nobody will care about Maine or CCSU.
FCS football is a money loser. LAX is a sport that is growing. High School LAX is growing in Florida and in California, so if you talk about UConn losing money now, it will lose more in FCS, since nobody will care about Maine or CCSU.
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lol you dont get much right do you
i dont want fcs football - i also dont want to waste money on dumb niche sports. if they drop football they should put all the resources into what they already have. not invent new teams that add nothing and waste money.
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Why did you create an account? Honest question.Aloha,
FCS.
Sure, we'd all love to see UConn's football program be able to compete at the level of most upper level FBS state schools, in major conferences, with an established ongoing tradition of success & great rivalries.
However, that will never happen.
The Case for FCS. Evidence from the field? We've been amongst the 'Bottom 10' FBS teams for a long time now with no light on the horizon. From ESPN:
3. U-Can't (1-2)
The Huskies: Eastern Division have settled into their role as the 2019 college football "We're the guys to get you back on track" frustration releasers. After being embarrassed by Ohio State, Indiana thumped UConn 38-3. Now the Huskies will face UC(not S)F, which just suffered its first loss in nearly three years. The following week they get US(not C)F, which just ended an eight-game losing streak and is fighting to salvage its pride and its season. According to sources, in October UConn will be forced to face the Cleveland Browns, New York Knicks, Miami Marlins and the filmmakers responsible for the "Game of Thrones" finale.
More Reasons for FCS: UConn has $40 million in athletic debt (mostly due to football) with a state government that is economically paralyzed. That demands immediate action. Now!
UConn offers recruits a cold, isolated Northeast location that does not produce big-time football players in numbers & cannot attract them from Florida & other football states that do. Most UConn football recruits have been FCS-level players for a long time now. Admit it! Many high school QB's are much better than UConn's QB's this year.
FBS Football conferences avoided UConn football, even with our historically great basketball teams to bring along. We lost - because of our lousy football teams & their inability to make money for anyone. Move on. Going the AAC route was expedient but not the right answer, especially for balancing budgets.
Almost ten years of losing under several terrible coaches.
Fans struggling to see improvement where there is none this year, or last year, or the year before, etc.
No big-time FBS budget to attract the better coaches.
Disinterested fans & sponsors. Connecticut is not a football state.
The Rent is in the middle of nowhere East Hartford far from campus.
If you think that FBS Independent is the cure, just take a look at UMass or other independents that are bad on the field & have little name recognition (most really). What? Get paid to be a perennial loser to better schools?
Worst of all, UConn's overall national rankings are going south quickly due to economic shortfalls (hurt by football). The list of reasons why UConn football cannot make it in FBS goes on and on.
Solution: Join the FCS and especially the CAA conference. That should be UConn football's immediate goal & action. We'd be competitive or better right away & the FCS is a great fit for UConn's FCS level of players & coaches. Better yet, it fits our athletic budget.
Cut the losses UConn! Build back the old regional rivalries that fans could easily care about once again. Stop the insane traveling for the losing football team, even to the midwest. Balance the budget. That plan makes sense for the short-term & the long.
It's not what we'd ideally want. It's what works for what UConn football truly has become. FCS!
alohachris
UConn's calling card has long been basketball. The move to the Big East confirms that & I applaud the move. Old time tackle football has peaked as a sport. Why invest in it?
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uconn has intramurals so they should fund division 1 teams in every possible sport. galaxy brain stuff around here today folks
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This what programs like an Oklahoma State does. Resources into fewer but successful programs.
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Programs like Oklahoma State have (had) a super wealthy benefactor.
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yeah it makes even more sense when you dont have that
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Exactly. You save all the football money, plus the money you’d save cutting the equivalent dollars in female sports.
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LOL. Lots of humorous fodder in this thread. Bottom line, we aren’t dropping football and aren’t moving to FCS. As for the 11:11 starts, I guess the lunatic will have to tell us.
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He does and still claims he is not wrong because a game two seasons after the claim was scheduled to kickoff at 11:00 central time (in order to fit into the 12:00 Eastern Time TV slot).
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Anyone else get the yearly AD game day experience survey? First of all the survey format was awful. Only one line was visible in the free form response boxes. Be that as it may, I responded to everything with a "Neutral," at best, reaction, with two "Somewhat dissatisfied" answers.
I responded to the free form questions as follows.
UConn: Please provide any additional feedback on what you enjoyed most about the UConn Football Fan Experience so we can continue to build on this area (optional).
I like the new concession options. Parking attendants have gotten better.
UConn: In an effort to provide the best possible gameday experience, please provide any additional feedback that will continue to help us improve (optional)
I've mentioned this in previous surveys, but the 3rd down "Fire Up" music needs to be changed up. "Welcome to the Jungle" is stale (as is canned music at a college game as a whole), and as the opponent continues to convert 3rd down after third down, it becomes a sort of Pavlov's Dog. It fires up the other team instead of UConn. There are marching band arrangements for these tunes (WttJ, Hells Bells, Crazy Train, and others). Poll the players for tunes they think will fire them up, find marching band arrangements and get the UCMB more involved. Student section attendance and retention is beyond pitiful. The Athletic Department needs to work with student organizations and the student body, not antagonize them (e.g. the letter at the beginning of the season regarding the student parking lot). Surveys should be directed their way. If they don't go, why not? What would make them make the 25 mile trek? If they tailgate, but don’t attend, what will get them into the stadium? If they go to the game for the 2nd quarter, what would get them in earlier? Most important, what would make them stay beyond halftime and through the final gun?
I responded to the free form questions as follows.
UConn: Please provide any additional feedback on what you enjoyed most about the UConn Football Fan Experience so we can continue to build on this area (optional).
I like the new concession options. Parking attendants have gotten better.
UConn: In an effort to provide the best possible gameday experience, please provide any additional feedback that will continue to help us improve (optional)
I've mentioned this in previous surveys, but the 3rd down "Fire Up" music needs to be changed up. "Welcome to the Jungle" is stale (as is canned music at a college game as a whole), and as the opponent continues to convert 3rd down after third down, it becomes a sort of Pavlov's Dog. It fires up the other team instead of UConn. There are marching band arrangements for these tunes (WttJ, Hells Bells, Crazy Train, and others). Poll the players for tunes they think will fire them up, find marching band arrangements and get the UCMB more involved. Student section attendance and retention is beyond pitiful. The Athletic Department needs to work with student organizations and the student body, not antagonize them (e.g. the letter at the beginning of the season regarding the student parking lot). Surveys should be directed their way. If they don't go, why not? What would make them make the 25 mile trek? If they tailgate, but don’t attend, what will get them into the stadium? If they go to the game for the 2nd quarter, what would get them in earlier? Most important, what would make them stay beyond halftime and through the final gun?
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That's the one thing I can't stand about UConn Athletics.. they've kept whomever is in charge of entertainment for fan/crowd participation for FAR FAR FAR too long... For crying out loud, they play the same Goddoggone music they played when I was there in the late 80's/early 90's to this day... Then, when they try and do an "update" they are still a decade behind... Reeeeeeeeeediculous...
MAJOR (probably not that major, but you get me) changes should be made there. Connecticut sits between 2 trendy markets (NYC & Boston)... Yet, we're not up to date with stuff like that....
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You
You can go back to the nearest rock your crawled out from or the women's basketball board.
I always wanted them to be like Iowa or at the very next Wisconsin. State U with smaller in state talent but very good programs. Now I will be happy a top 50 team year in and year out
You can go back to the nearest rock your crawled out from or the women's basketball board.
I always wanted them to be like Iowa or at the very next Wisconsin. State U with smaller in state talent but very good programs. Now I will be happy a top 50 team year in and year out
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I'd like UConn to be competitive in the AAC, but that ship has sailed. I see a future playing James Madison, Buffalo, and Colgate in front of 6,000 people.
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Ran a quick sim for you, all at the Rent:
UConn 27 Colgate 21
Buffalo 35 UConn 20
JMU 38 UConn 15
Can't sim the attendance, but I suspect the sim lines into the stadium would be ... manageable.
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Aloha Husky25,
Why does anybody join athletic forums? We have too much time on our hands. Ha! Go on, admit it! Some do it to be right for at least a little bit of their day. Some do it to try & reconnect to the old school. I'm the latter - but it's difficult to reconnect w/ UConn after 50 years in Hawaii. But I still love the Huskies.
I don't know why you ask the question of me alone. No explanation for singling me out was forthcoming.
I'll tell ya one thing. Except for the mega teams, college football is in a money straight-jacket. Conversely, UConn football "leads" the nation in terms of how much the university subsidizes it - 51%! Not something to be proud of, at any level. And each student is paying about $500 per year to subsidize what has become a perennial Bottom 10 program that is only going to cost millions more in the near future as it continues to lose against real FBS Football schools (most of whom are also losing money). That aint right, IMO.
That's not how any UConn fan wants it to be. That's just how it is. There is no FBS quick fix that will bring UConn football close to a balanced budget or consistent winning in the next 20 years. It's broken & needs immediate fixing. $41 million in debt is not chump change. Time to cut costs across the board. Joining the FCS is just a tool to do that - and that could change again later. No I don't like that. It's just what's necessary.
UConn's national rankings have been steadily declining the last few years. UConn football is a prime contributor to the fiscal problems that are causing that. We can't allow such a great university to suffer such a negative fate. UConn basketball is what has helped with the school's rankings.
IMO, joining FCS is the one solution that can help cut costs, scale back the debt & keep some kind of football on campus with the hope of balancing the budget & fielding competitive teams. Yes, it IS that bad. It's offensive that my school went over the fool's gold cliff with so many others when conference realignment (football uber alles ethic) promised endless riches, but gave UConn unbelievably outrageous cost increases. Stupid leadership. We got left out of the big time conferences & real TV money. Now it's the Bottom 10.
However, Only 24 FBS football programs made money last year. Everyone else had to subsidize. That is a broken model to the sport's sustainability. Here is just one source to that effect:
hc-sp-uconn-sports-athletic-department-finances-revenue-expenses-20190117-2wdp5gimnvhlliwykl6npcmy7u-story.html
So Husky25, I guess the reason I went on the yard's football forum here was to see if anyone else here had the notion to put aside blind X's & 0's fandom discourse for a moment & discuss the sustainability issues for UConn football after so many losses (on the field & on the ledger). I mean the OP asked us where we want UConn football to be. We can't discuss that without addressing the elephant in the room & solutions for keeping UConn football viable, right?
Hey, Husky25, Just like you, I'm a fan. But I also want to be able to express opinions & hear others, even if we don't agree - nothing anyone says on a forum could ever get my goat or offend me. To me, the biggest crime on a forum is when people don't provide the back story & facts to back up an opinion or disagreement. I mean, the thread for "which dorms you stayed in while at UConn?" No nobody really wants to know the dorms. They want to know what you did there, right? The story.
Eh, what's your opinion on where you want UConn football to be & how to get there, brah?
Going for an ocean swim now at Lanikai. Laters.
A Hui Hou,
alohachris
Why does anybody join athletic forums? We have too much time on our hands. Ha! Go on, admit it! Some do it to be right for at least a little bit of their day. Some do it to try & reconnect to the old school. I'm the latter - but it's difficult to reconnect w/ UConn after 50 years in Hawaii. But I still love the Huskies.
I don't know why you ask the question of me alone. No explanation for singling me out was forthcoming.
I'll tell ya one thing. Except for the mega teams, college football is in a money straight-jacket. Conversely, UConn football "leads" the nation in terms of how much the university subsidizes it - 51%! Not something to be proud of, at any level. And each student is paying about $500 per year to subsidize what has become a perennial Bottom 10 program that is only going to cost millions more in the near future as it continues to lose against real FBS Football schools (most of whom are also losing money). That aint right, IMO.
That's not how any UConn fan wants it to be. That's just how it is. There is no FBS quick fix that will bring UConn football close to a balanced budget or consistent winning in the next 20 years. It's broken & needs immediate fixing. $41 million in debt is not chump change. Time to cut costs across the board. Joining the FCS is just a tool to do that - and that could change again later. No I don't like that. It's just what's necessary.
UConn's national rankings have been steadily declining the last few years. UConn football is a prime contributor to the fiscal problems that are causing that. We can't allow such a great university to suffer such a negative fate. UConn basketball is what has helped with the school's rankings.
IMO, joining FCS is the one solution that can help cut costs, scale back the debt & keep some kind of football on campus with the hope of balancing the budget & fielding competitive teams. Yes, it IS that bad. It's offensive that my school went over the fool's gold cliff with so many others when conference realignment (football uber alles ethic) promised endless riches, but gave UConn unbelievably outrageous cost increases. Stupid leadership. We got left out of the big time conferences & real TV money. Now it's the Bottom 10.
However, Only 24 FBS football programs made money last year. Everyone else had to subsidize. That is a broken model to the sport's sustainability. Here is just one source to that effect:
hc-sp-uconn-sports-athletic-department-finances-revenue-expenses-20190117-2wdp5gimnvhlliwykl6npcmy7u-story.html
So Husky25, I guess the reason I went on the yard's football forum here was to see if anyone else here had the notion to put aside blind X's & 0's fandom discourse for a moment & discuss the sustainability issues for UConn football after so many losses (on the field & on the ledger). I mean the OP asked us where we want UConn football to be. We can't discuss that without addressing the elephant in the room & solutions for keeping UConn football viable, right?
Hey, Husky25, Just like you, I'm a fan. But I also want to be able to express opinions & hear others, even if we don't agree - nothing anyone says on a forum could ever get my goat or offend me. To me, the biggest crime on a forum is when people don't provide the back story & facts to back up an opinion or disagreement. I mean, the thread for "which dorms you stayed in while at UConn?" No nobody really wants to know the dorms. They want to know what you did there, right? The story.
Eh, what's your opinion on where you want UConn football to be & how to get there, brah?
Going for an ocean swim now at Lanikai. Laters.
A Hui Hou,
alohachris
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Wow ignored after 8 posts. A new record.
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T.L. D.R.
You don't seem to be a fan.
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on a board polluted with the worst performance art imaginable - your horrific posts can compete with the worst of them.
usually out most tedious posters who never actually attend a game are only 1 or 2 time zones away - your expertise comes from 5k miles away 5 decades ago.
you’ll fit in well. we are starting a water polo team - why not a luau team
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I couldn't get by the first 4 sentences but the persona could be used as a decent troll
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Imagine living in Hawaii and devoting that much time to writing that post.
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