Where will we be in ten years?
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And massively popular at the 10-17 level. Tons of money being poured in, private equity, etc. MLB ain’t going anywhere - they’ll continue to adapt. Soccer may grow more because it’s it has so much more room, but it is never taking baseball. Only chance is if some iconic superstar ala soccer Jordan shows up that kids looked up to. We’ve been waiting for that guy for a long time. Soccers benefit is its simplicity and that kids can play it at 4 years old. Most great athletes then abandon it as they get older.
Listen, if you’re 5’8” and quick, play soccer. They’ll never attract the crème de la crème of big time athletes in the US. Most of us go watch those guys because they are unique physical specimens and larger than life.
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The NFL will still be king. The NBA will be the NBA. Baseball will have fallen in a volcano and the people who like the NHL will still like the NHL. Soccer will fade in the US because we suck at it, but the rest of the world will still do what they do. The WNBA doubles down on trying to be the most unlikable group of human beings in sports and loses all forward momentum. Boxing no longer exists and horse racing is conducted without horses after a successful PETA campaign to have them banned. UFC is supplanted by the new Bar Fight League in which combatants are required to try to have a political discussion while doing shots at scheduled intervals.
College football and basketball are still popular, but there’s a league of 60+ schools playing in their own association. The NCAA is still around to organize the remnants of D1 as well as D2 and D3. It co-owns the year end tournament with the new power division and splits the revenue 30-70. Some number of NCAA teams earn berths to the tournament while all power conference teams are included. Ditto for the women’s tournament.
Half the power conference football teams play in their year end tournament. The remaining 50 or so teams left behind in the NCAA have a four team playoff in Flint, Michigan to determine the best of the rest. The players each pay a $50 entry fee to cover field rental.
The USA wins six gold medals at the 2036 Olympics because collegiate Olympic sports were all cut in 2030 due to budgetary constraints.
College football and basketball are still popular, but there’s a league of 60+ schools playing in their own association. The NCAA is still around to organize the remnants of D1 as well as D2 and D3. It co-owns the year end tournament with the new power division and splits the revenue 30-70. Some number of NCAA teams earn berths to the tournament while all power conference teams are included. Ditto for the women’s tournament.
Half the power conference football teams play in their year end tournament. The remaining 50 or so teams left behind in the NCAA have a four team playoff in Flint, Michigan to determine the best of the rest. The players each pay a $50 entry fee to cover field rental.
The USA wins six gold medals at the 2036 Olympics because collegiate Olympic sports were all cut in 2030 due to budgetary constraints.
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Sports must continue to evolve to meet the demand for results now. I think UConn will always be doing something good. I think they will get into a conference, either a watered-down ACC or the Big 12.
Pro football will still be king. Baseball needs more viewers. I am not sure how they do it. The NBA has its limits, but it will continue until salaries need to stop growing as they are now.
College sports need rules and boundaries, which it doesn't have now
Pro football will still be king. Baseball needs more viewers. I am not sure how they do it. The NBA has its limits, but it will continue until salaries need to stop growing as they are now.
College sports need rules and boundaries, which it doesn't have now
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You think so? The expanded playoffs and hokie rule changes have turned me off to the sport.
If they want to make the regular season games worth watching, suggestion is to not let half the league into the playoffs?
What I don't understand is they cheapen the playoffs by adding additional teams and rounds for more tv money, but why not keep the wild card round as it was and make it 7 games?
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So you're the one who took my 2 gummies.
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I like that a game is the length of The Departed now instead of the length of Once Upon a Time In America extended director's cut. I can have a couple beers before the game and head to the bar after the game instead of sitting there for 4 hours nursing a $17 beer.
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Is this at the same point restaurant chain Fudruckers devolves to B&$ttf&$ckers?
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not much. I think we there be discussions about segregating the “haves vs. have nots” and there will be talks about geographical realignment in all sports, not just college.
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Take MLB AL East - A division with NYY, BOS, TOR, NYM, and PHL makes more sense than BAL and TAM.
College sports will start segregating into a new division (paid players). This could lead to a breakdown of D2 as some FCS teams try to get in on the final money grab before joining D2 or D3 ranks. I think that will cause some schools to decide if they want to take the jump up or down.
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Take MLB AL East - A division with NYY, BOS, TOR, NYM, and PHL makes more sense than BAL and TAM.
College sports will start segregating into a new division (paid players). This could lead to a breakdown of D2 as some FCS teams try to get in on the final money grab before joining D2 or D3 ranks. I think that will cause some schools to decide if they want to take the jump up or down.
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I think so, you're the first person I've heard that doesn't like the changes, though I'm sure there are more.
Confused by your last sentence though, the wild card round was never 7 games, it was 1 game when it was 2 wild card teams and now is 3 games
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You want to have a 162 game season where fewer teams get in? So then there will be even more teams with a ton more games to play with nothing to play for?
Sounds very 1985. Look around major sports, MLB allows much fewer teams in than the NHL, NBA and NFL. Fewer playoff teams isn’t the answer.
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I like the rule changes and they don't change the game.
This may come across as judgemental, but I think that some people dont understand or have the patience for the parts of baseball that in my opinion make it so great. Football is the low hanging fruit and most adults have no attention span anymore. People watch 4 nfl games at a time in that weird ADHD 4square, continuously checking their fantasy numbers, drinking and eating all day. It's basically the action equivalent of a tik tok scroll. Somewhere somebody convinced Americans that multitasking is good for you...
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NFL is 12 minutes of action during 3 hours of airing.
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As an educator, I am around 13-18-year-olds every day. The buzz concerning baseball is dead. It's an absolute rarity to have a kid talk baseball, you rarely see them wearing merch, and as a sport, fewer and fewer are playing it, opting for Lacrosse or Track.
I think the over-30 crowd still watches. But the youngin's in my district just do not have much interest anymore.
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I'm just saying that the younger generations do not have anywhere near the interest anymore. Some of the rule changes have been great in speeding up some of the dead time and trying to make things more exciting. But, imo, that's having little effect on the potential new fans. It's just not moving the needle.
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You miss most of the 4th quarter if only 3 hours.
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Barely recognized the Little League game with all the new rules.
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I do see what you are saying. It may be a regional thing. In TN baseball is huge, in terms of playing the sport. There are a few clinics and youth training complexes in my area and the neighborhood kids play baseball. Nobody plays football.
But, the one thing missing is the worship of these athletes that kids in our generation displayed. They dont have sports heroes anymore. Not even in football.
My 12 year old nephew is OBSESSED with baseball and he lives in Westchester County NY. But he never watches it. His dad is a huge Yankee fan but the kid doesnt watch. Plays in 4 leagues. He does seem to admire 99 a great deal though.
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I think it’s also an attention span shift. Sitting through 9 innings of a pitchers dual is fun for adults, not so much for kids. I begrudgingly go to Phillies games once in a while and the biggest draw for my kids and their cousins is the mini whiffle ball stadium and hot dog launcher game at Citizens Bank Park. Kids can’t sit still for more than like 20 minutes at a time these days. Maybe that’s how it’s always been and I’ve never noticed, I dunno.
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What district? What are they wearing? Surely it isn't Lax and track merch. I wouldn't look at the NE as a great example of the majority of the country as it's not a hotbed for baseball talent, or football talent.
An observation - the NFL's entertainment value is highly predicated on one position, the QB. In the NFL, there are maaaybe 10 QBs every year that can win a SB. There are usually 10 teams still trying to find or figure out their QB situation. High demand, massively low supply. The profile is a strong armed 6'4" 225 guy. There are 200 plus of those guys in MLB - pitchers are hosses these days, yet they all opt to play baseball instead of football.
Baseball's next move is making their 162 game slog more meaningful. We are not in a world where the new gen can endure that kind of marathon. It honestly makes no sense either - 162 games to determine a 3 game WC? C'mon.
The one thing about baseball that's changed drastically over the last 20 years is simply a lack of personality. Back in the 80's through early 2000's, when I watched, there were so many unique player profiles. There were pitchers with funky mechanics & batting stances, their own way of doing. This day and age, the mechanics have all standardized to the point of everyone looking the same. There's no fat knuckle ballers, submariners, fat guys that mashed.
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Huh? I didn't say anything about fewer teams making the playoffs
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Guy before you made that suggestion, sorry. ConnHusk.
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I haven't really subscribed to the "people will stop playing football" point of view, but this just hit the news. Repeated head trauma causes brain changes in young athletes before CTE symptoms
At some point, youth sports has to be dialed back. It used to be casual, now all these parents are making it hyper competitive.
NFL will still lead the way, college football too. College hoops is hard to project. I think the NIL and money angle has a much bigger influence on a 13 person team than on a football team with 80-100 guys. They have to figure it out. The Euros are coming for it too. MLB is fine and may have a resurgence if they can fix the imbalances. NBA needs some help to focus on the actual game instead of flashy highlights and star power. It has lost its way. NHL is rock solid, but the ceiling is low. Soccer could see a benefit if people shift from "contact" sports, but the reality is that heading soccer balls is probably not ideal for CTE, we know it is very bad for young girls.
At some point, youth sports has to be dialed back. It used to be casual, now all these parents are making it hyper competitive.
NFL will still lead the way, college football too. College hoops is hard to project. I think the NIL and money angle has a much bigger influence on a 13 person team than on a football team with 80-100 guys. They have to figure it out. The Euros are coming for it too. MLB is fine and may have a resurgence if they can fix the imbalances. NBA needs some help to focus on the actual game instead of flashy highlights and star power. It has lost its way. NHL is rock solid, but the ceiling is low. Soccer could see a benefit if people shift from "contact" sports, but the reality is that heading soccer balls is probably not ideal for CTE, we know it is very bad for young girls.