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I don't think this is true at all. The recent changes have made baseball so much enjoyable for everyone from the casual fans to the diehards

You think so? The expanded playoffs and hokie rule changes have turned me off to the sport.

If they want to make the regular season games worth watching, suggestion is to not let half the league into the playoffs?

What I don't understand is they cheapen the playoffs by adding additional teams and rounds for more tv money, but why not keep the wild card round as it was and make it 7 games?
 
The NFL will still be king. The NBA will be the NBA. Baseball will have fallen in a volcano and the people who like the NHL will still like the NHL. Soccer will fade in the US because we suck at it, but the rest of the world will still do what they do. The WNBA doubles down on trying to be the most unlikable group of human beings in sports and loses all forward momentum. Boxing no longer exists and horse racing is conducted without horses after a successful PETA campaign to have them banned. UFC is supplanted by the new Bar Fight League in which combatants are required to try to have a political discussion while doing shots at scheduled intervals.

College football and basketball are still popular, but there’s a league of 60+ schools playing in their own association. The NCAA is still around to organize the remnants of D1 as well as D2 and D3. It co-owns the year end tournament with the new power division and splits the revenue 30-70. Some number of NCAA teams earn berths to the tournament while all power conference teams are included. Ditto for the women’s tournament.

Half the power conference football teams play in their year end tournament. The remaining 50 or so teams left behind in the NCAA have a four team playoff in Flint, Michigan to determine the best of the rest. The players each pay a $50 entry fee to cover field rental.

The USA wins six gold medals at the 2036 Olympics because collegiate Olympic sports were all cut in 2030 due to budgetary constraints.
So you're the one who took my 2 gummies.
 
You think so? The expanded playoffs and hokie rule changes have turned me off to the sport.

If they want to make the regular season games worth watching, suggestion is to not let half the league into the playoffs?

What I don't understand is they cheapen the playoffs by adding additional teams and rounds for more tv money, but why not keep the wild card round as it was and make it 7 games?
I like that a game is the length of The Departed now instead of the length of Once Upon a Time In America extended director's cut. I can have a couple beers before the game and head to the bar after the game instead of sitting there for 4 hours nursing a $17 beer.
 
The NFL will still be king. The NBA will be the NBA. Baseball will have fallen in a volcano and the people who like the NHL will still like the NHL. Soccer will fade in the US because we suck at it, but the rest of the world will still do what they do. The WNBA doubles down on trying to be the most unlikable group of human beings in sports and loses all forward momentum. Boxing no longer exists and horse racing is conducted without horses after a successful PETA campaign to have them banned. UFC is supplanted by the new Bar Fight League in which combatants are required to try to have a political discussion while doing shots at scheduled intervals.

College football and basketball are still popular, but there’s a league of 60+ schools playing in their own association. The NCAA is still around to organize the remnants of D1 as well as D2 and D3. It co-owns the year end tournament with the new power division and splits the revenue 30-70. Some number of NCAA teams earn berths to the tournament while all power conference teams are included. Ditto for the women’s tournament.

Half the power conference football teams play in their year end tournament. The remaining 50 or so teams left behind in the NCAA have a four team playoff in Flint, Michigan to determine the best of the rest. The players each pay a $50 entry fee to cover field rental.

The USA wins six gold medals at the 2036 Olympics because collegiate Olympic sports were all cut in 2030 due to budgetary constraints.
Is this at the same point restaurant chain Fudruckers devolves to B&$ttf&$ckers?

Name the movie.
 
not much. I think we there be discussions about segregating the “haves vs. have nots” and there will be talks about geographical realignment in all sports, not just college.

Example:
Take MLB AL East - A division with NYY, BOS, TOR, NYM, and PHL makes more sense than BAL and TAM.

College sports will start segregating into a new division (paid players). This could lead to a breakdown of D2 as some FCS teams try to get in on the final money grab before joining D2 or D3 ranks. I think that will cause some schools to decide if they want to take the jump up or down.
 
You think so? The expanded playoffs and hokie rule changes have turned me off to the sport.

If they want to make the regular season games worth watching, suggestion is to not let half the league into the playoffs?

What I don't understand is they cheapen the playoffs by adding additional teams and rounds for more tv money, but why not keep the wild card round as it was and make it 7 games?
I think so, you're the first person I've heard that doesn't like the changes, though I'm sure there are more.

Confused by your last sentence though, the wild card round was never 7 games, it was 1 game when it was 2 wild card teams and now is 3 games
 
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I think so, you're the first person I've heard that doesn't like the changes, though I'm sure there are more.

Confused by your last sentence though, the wild card round was never 7 games, it was 1 game when it was 2 wild card teams and now is 3 games
You want to have a 162 game season where fewer teams get in? So then there will be even more teams with a ton more games to play with nothing to play for?

Sounds very 1985. Look around major sports, MLB allows much fewer teams in than the NHL, NBA and NFL. Fewer playoff teams isn’t the answer.
 
I think so, you're the first person I've heard that doesn't like the changes, though I'm sure there are more.

Confused by your last sentence though, the wild card round was never 7 games, it was 1 game when it was 2 wild card teams and now is 3 games
I like the rule changes and they don't change the game.

This may come across as judgemental, but I think that some people dont understand or have the patience for the parts of baseball that in my opinion make it so great. Football is the low hanging fruit and most adults have no attention span anymore. People watch 4 nfl games at a time in that weird ADHD 4square, continuously checking their fantasy numbers, drinking and eating all day. It's basically the action equivalent of a tik tok scroll. Somewhere somebody convinced Americans that multitasking is good for you...
 
I like the rule changes and they don't change the game.

This may come across as judgemental, but I think that some people dont understand or have the patience for the parts of baseball that in my opinion make it so great. Football is the low hanging fruit and most adults have no attention span anymore. People watch 4 nfl games at a time in that weird ADHD 4square, continuously checking their fantasy numbers, drinking and eating all day. It's basically the action equivalent of a tik tok scroll. Somewhere somebody convinced Americans that multitasking is good for you...
NFL is 12 minutes of action during 3 hours of airing.
 
Soccer will be a major sport in the US with MLB taking even more of a step back. I would be surprised if the US doesn't field at least three major soccer teams on par with EU by then.

It's all here. Fast kicking, low scoring, and TIES!!! You bet!

 
I keep hearing this about baseball but the #'s don't show it for MLB. Is it less popular than it was in the 90's? Yes it's way less popular than the 90's but so is the NBA and NHL.

As an educator, I am around 13-18-year-olds every day. The buzz concerning baseball is dead. It's an absolute rarity to have a kid talk baseball, you rarely see them wearing merch, and as a sport, fewer and fewer are playing it, opting for Lacrosse or Track.

I think the over-30 crowd still watches. But the youngin's in my district just do not have much interest anymore.
 
I don't think this is true at all. The recent changes have made baseball so much enjoyable for everyone from the casual fans to the diehards

I'm just saying that the younger generations do not have anywhere near the interest anymore. Some of the rule changes have been great in speeding up some of the dead time and trying to make things more exciting. But, imo, that's having little effect on the potential new fans. It's just not moving the needle.
 
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I'm just saying that the younger generations do not have anywhere near the interest anymore. Some of the rule changes have been great in speeding up some of the dead time and trying to make things more exciting. But, imo, that's having little effect on the potential new fans. It's just not moving the needle.
Barely recognized the Little League game with all the new rules.
 
I'm just saying that the younger generations do not have anywhere near the interest anymore. Some of the rule changes have been great in speeding up some of the dead time and trying to make things more exciting. But, imo, that's having little effect on the potential new fans. It's just not moving the needle.
I do see what you are saying. It may be a regional thing. In TN baseball is huge, in terms of playing the sport. There are a few clinics and youth training complexes in my area and the neighborhood kids play baseball. Nobody plays football.
But, the one thing missing is the worship of these athletes that kids in our generation displayed. They dont have sports heroes anymore. Not even in football.
My 12 year old nephew is OBSESSED with baseball and he lives in Westchester County NY. But he never watches it. His dad is a huge Yankee fan but the kid doesnt watch. Plays in 4 leagues. He does seem to admire 99 a great deal though.
 
I'm just saying that the younger generations do not have anywhere near the interest anymore. Some of the rule changes have been great in speeding up some of the dead time and trying to make things more exciting. But, imo, that's having little effect on the potential new fans. It's just not moving the needle.
I think it’s also an attention span shift. Sitting through 9 innings of a pitchers dual is fun for adults, not so much for kids. I begrudgingly go to Phillies games once in a while and the biggest draw for my kids and their cousins is the mini whiffle ball stadium and hot dog launcher game at Citizens Bank Park. Kids can’t sit still for more than like 20 minutes at a time these days. Maybe that’s how it’s always been and I’ve never noticed, I dunno.
 
As an educator, I am around 13-18-year-olds every day. The buzz concerning baseball is dead. It's an absolute rarity to have a kid talk baseball, you rarely see them wearing merch, and as a sport, fewer and fewer are playing it, opting for Lacrosse or Track.

I think the over-30 crowd still watches. But the youngin's in my district just do not have much interest anymore.
What district? What are they wearing? Surely it isn't Lax and track merch. I wouldn't look at the NE as a great example of the majority of the country as it's not a hotbed for baseball talent, or football talent.

An observation - the NFL's entertainment value is highly predicated on one position, the QB. In the NFL, there are maaaybe 10 QBs every year that can win a SB. There are usually 10 teams still trying to find or figure out their QB situation. High demand, massively low supply. The profile is a strong armed 6'4" 225 guy. There are 200 plus of those guys in MLB - pitchers are hosses these days, yet they all opt to play baseball instead of football.

Baseball's next move is making their 162 game slog more meaningful. We are not in a world where the new gen can endure that kind of marathon. It honestly makes no sense either - 162 games to determine a 3 game WC? C'mon.

The one thing about baseball that's changed drastically over the last 20 years is simply a lack of personality. Back in the 80's through early 2000's, when I watched, there were so many unique player profiles. There were pitchers with funky mechanics & batting stances, their own way of doing. This day and age, the mechanics have all standardized to the point of everyone looking the same. There's no fat knuckle ballers, submariners, fat guys that mashed.
 
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You want to have a 162 game season where fewer teams get in? So then there will be even more teams with a ton more games to play with nothing to play for?

Sounds very 1985. Look around major sports, MLB allows much fewer teams in than the NHL, NBA and NFL. Fewer playoff teams isn’t the answer.
Huh? I didn't say anything about fewer teams making the playoffs
 
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I haven't really subscribed to the "people will stop playing football" point of view, but this just hit the news. Repeated head trauma causes brain changes in young athletes before CTE symptoms

At some point, youth sports has to be dialed back. It used to be casual, now all these parents are making it hyper competitive.

NFL will still lead the way, college football too. College hoops is hard to project. I think the NIL and money angle has a much bigger influence on a 13 person team than on a football team with 80-100 guys. They have to figure it out. The Euros are coming for it too. MLB is fine and may have a resurgence if they can fix the imbalances. NBA needs some help to focus on the actual game instead of flashy highlights and star power. It has lost its way. NHL is rock solid, but the ceiling is low. Soccer could see a benefit if people shift from "contact" sports, but the reality is that heading soccer balls is probably not ideal for CTE, we know it is very bad for young girls.
 
I haven't really subscribed to the "people will stop playing football" point of view, but this just hit the news. Repeated head trauma causes brain changes in young athletes before CTE symptoms

At some point, youth sports has to be dialed back. It used to be casual, now all these parents are making it hyper competitive.

NFL will still lead the way, college football too. College hoops is hard to project. I think the NIL and money angle has a much bigger influence on a 13 person team than on a football team with 80-100 guys. They have to figure it out. The Euros are coming for it too. MLB is fine and may have a resurgence if they can fix the imbalances. NBA needs some help to focus on the actual game instead of flashy highlights and star power. It has lost its way. NHL is rock solid, but the ceiling is low. Soccer could see a benefit if people shift from "contact" sports, but the reality is that heading soccer balls is probably not ideal for CTE, we know it is very bad for young girls.
You'd hope it to be dialed back, but not sure how it happens. The current system is practically toxic, lot's of parents projecting themselves on their kids and just throwing money at programs thinking/hoping their kid is better than they are. If there is money to be made on emotional spending, it will be taken advantage of.
 
I haven't really subscribed to the "people will stop playing football" point of view, but this just hit the news. Repeated head trauma causes brain changes in young athletes before CTE symptoms

At some point, youth sports has to be dialed back. It used to be casual, now all these parents are making it hyper competitive.

NFL will still lead the way, college football too. College hoops is hard to project. I think the NIL and money angle has a much bigger influence on a 13 person team than on a football team with 80-100 guys. They have to figure it out. The Euros are coming for it too. MLB is fine and may have a resurgence if they can fix the imbalances. NBA needs some help to focus on the actual game instead of flashy highlights and star power. It has lost its way. NHL is rock solid, but the ceiling is low. Soccer could see a benefit if people shift from "contact" sports, but the reality is that heading soccer balls is probably not ideal for CTE, we know it is very bad for young girls.
I'm in grad school for psychotherapy right now and I did a study on CTE. The "end around" that the NFL did and continues to do regarding research and disclosure is pretty sad. Basically, they are saying, "hey, players have heard about the risks (kinda) and they still want to play and America loves it, sooooo....play on" but as we would expect with a multi-billion dollar industry the NFL does anything it can to keep earning revenue. Tua played last night, that man should not be allowed to take any more hits. Concussion protocol is like prescribing a nap after a heart attack.
 
I haven't really subscribed to the "people will stop playing football" point of view, but this just hit the news. Repeated head trauma causes brain changes in young athletes before CTE symptoms

At some point, youth sports has to be dialed back. It used to be casual, now all these parents are making it hyper competitive.

NFL will still lead the way, college football too. College hoops is hard to project. I think the NIL and money angle has a much bigger influence on a 13 person team than on a football team with 80-100 guys. They have to figure it out. The Euros are coming for it too. MLB is fine and may have a resurgence if they can fix the imbalances. NBA needs some help to focus on the actual game instead of flashy highlights and star power. It has lost its way. NHL is rock solid, but the ceiling is low. Soccer could see a benefit if people shift from "contact" sports, but the reality is that heading soccer balls is probably not ideal for CTE, we know it is very bad for young girls.
Ever since we've learned so much about CTE there's been a dramatic shift as to who is playing football. I expect this trend to continue and the racial, socioeconomic, and regional differences will be even more pronounced 10 years from now.

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As an educator, I am around 13-18-year-olds every day. The buzz concerning baseball is dead. It's an absolute rarity to have a kid talk baseball, you rarely see them wearing merch, and as a sport, fewer and fewer are playing it, opting for Lacrosse or Track.

I think the over-30 crowd still watches. But the youngin's in my district just do not have much interest anymore.
In the US that's the case not so much in other countries.
 
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Ever since we've learned so much about CTE there's been a dramatic shift as to who is playing football. I expect this trend to continue and the racial, socioeconomic, and regional differences will be even more pronounced 10 years from now.

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100% true that white parents in highly-educated suburbs are keeping their kids out of football, and for good reason.

That isn't the sad part. The sad part is that Black families don't see another way out.
 
100% true that white parents in highly-educated suburbs are keeping their kids out of football, and for good reason.

That isn't the sad part. The sad part is that Black families don't see another way out.
there's still a lot of support for football in those towns - Greenwich, Westport, Glastonbury, Fairfield Prep - all highly-educated suburban schools.

 
What district? What are they wearing? Surely it isn't Lax and track merch. I wouldn't look at the NE as a great example of the majority of the country as it's not a hotbed for baseball talent, or football talent.

The one thing about baseball that's changed drastically over the last 20 years is simply a lack of personality. Back in the 80's through early 2000's, when I watched, there were so many unique player profiles. There were pitchers with funky mechanics & batting stances, their own way of doing. This day and age, the mechanics have all standardized to the point of everyone looking the same. There's no fat knuckle ballers, submariners, fat guys that mashed.
No, they are not wearing Lax or track merch, but they sure as hell aren't wearing Yankee, Sox, or Mets stuff anymore, either. For most of my career, there would be pretty consistent Yankees/Sox talk during the baseball season. Absolute crickets now.

I think there is something to this. Baseball definitely used to have this "fun" vibe to it that I think is more or less dead nowadays. As a kid, you watched TWIB, Baseball Tonight, and had VHS tapes filled with bloopers. I also think interleague baseball destroyed any semblance of mystery between the leagues. Watching the All-Star game used to be must-watch TV to see young Clemens face young Bonds or to see if Gooden would blow away Mattingly. I can't remember the last time I even considered watching an All-Star game.
 
I think it’s also an attention span shift. Sitting through 9 innings of a pitchers dual is fun for adults, not so much for kids. I begrudgingly go to Phillies games once in a while and the biggest draw for my kids and their cousins is the mini whiffle ball stadium and hot dog launcher game at Citizens Bank Park. Kids can’t sit still for more than like 20 minutes at a time these days. Maybe that’s how it’s always been and I’ve never noticed, I dunno.

For sure... The subtlety of baseball is something that younger viewers just won't get. I grew up knowing that someone like Maddux would show a pitch during the first at-bat so he could use it differently in the third AB, or the incredible joy of sitting on the bench during a baseball game, or how much fun an in-season baseball practice was: taking BP, shagging fly balls, and being an idiot in the spring outside with your friends.
 
For sure... The subtlety of baseball is something that younger viewers just won't get. I grew up knowing that someone like Maddux would show a pitch during the first at-bat so he could use it differently in the third AB, or the incredible joy of sitting on the bench during a baseball game, or how much fun an in-season baseball practice was: taking BP, shagging fly balls, and being an idiot in the spring outside with your friends.
Youre right. That was the best stuff. Kids won't know the joys of pepper.
 
All sports will be played by a couple of guys on iPads, but because or AI, it will look real. We'll still go to stadiums or watch on TV as the holograms act it out. Vegas will make a fortune.
 
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