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There were some bad performances (Xavier, DePaul, Villanova) but the league went 27-23 against the P5 in the OOC.
But how much of that was us, Marquette, and Creighton? I think that’s the issue. The mid-range teams were largely disappointing in OOC. Butler and Nova probably had the best OOC of the group and then both crapped their pants in league play.
 
But how much of that was us, Marquette, and Creighton? I think that’s the issue. The mid-range teams were largely disappointing in OOC. Butler and Nova probably had the best OOC of the group and then both crapped their pants in league play.
Are you looking at all the other teams? FAU got their butts kicked by Bryant and they play in an absolute dog s^^^ conference. Nevada played nobody out of conference. Virginia beat Florida and A&M and got absolutely demolished by Memphis and Wisconsin. The ACC is incredibly weak.
 
I said back in December that the conferences (outside of UConn & Marquette) lack of OOC wins was concerning and this could end up a 4 bid league. Yesterday was even worse than I thought it could be.

With that said, I think Providence did enough in conference to earn a bid (they beat Marquette and 2X Creighton) and St. John’s had good metrics even though they really only had 1 signature win… especially compared to Virginia or the MWC teams whose best win on the season (outside of their league) was over Creighton (which PC did 2X and St. John’s did as well).

Seton Hall has 2 of the best wins in the country with wins over UConn and Marquette.

But we pooped the bed, as a league, in the non conference slate this year. Outside of the BIG / 12 challenges the middle / bottom tier teams in the league don’t really schedule any good games and participate in tier 2 or 3 MTEs.

IMO, this needs to be addressed by the commissioner (privately is okay) to ensure we don’t get screwed like this going forward. Plus teach these teams how to game the metrics like the Big 12 and SEC (Auburn had 1 win against a top 85 KenPom team away from home before this past weekend but was consistently a Top 10 team in the metrics).

Val is a useless commissioner though whose only good move since we’ve rejoined the league was extending the MSG contract, so I doubt she does anything about it.

I’m hoping a strong OOC showing next year has this league back to getting 5 or 6 bids. If not, it could be a signal from the NCAA of how they view the Big East as a “power” conference…
I hate to break it to you but outside the NEWBIE bubble, the Big East is viewed as a “high mid-major.” Closer to the MWC than the ACC or Big 10 or 12. You can through all the metrics around that you want. Doesn’t matter. It is perception. This selection just further confirms that view outside the bubble. UConn is viewed in the same way Gonzaga is. Power program in a lesser conference. If UConn were to leave the NEWBIE it would absolutely be viewed as the mid-major.
 
Are you looking at all the other teams? FAU got their butts kicked by Bryant and they play in an absolute dog s^^^ conference. Nevada played nobody out of conference. Virginia beat Florida and A&M and got absolutely demolished by Memphis and Wisconsin. The ACC is incredibly weak.
I’m not disagreeing with you. FAU is clearly in based on the fact that they went to the F4 last year. If they don’t do that, not a chance they’re in the field this year. There are other head-scratchers, I’m just saying why the committee undervalued the mid-tier teams beating up on each other. They need to take care of business OOC so that our league isn’t viewed as completely top-heavy.
 
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I hate to break it to you but outside the NEWBIE bubble, the Big East is viewed as a “high mid-major.” Closer to the MWC than the ACC or Big 10 or 12. You can through all the metrics around that you want. Doesn’t matter. It is perception. This selection just further confirms that view outside the bubble. UConn is viewed in the same way Gonzaga is. Power program in a lesser conference. If UConn were to leave the NEWBIE it would absolutely be viewed as the mid-major.
Your posts are somehow getting even worse by the day.
 
Put Calhoun or Hurley Sr in there and we'll get some results. In reality the The National Champs should get to pick the representative. It's called credibility.
You all realize that the representative from any conference has to leave the room when we discuss that conference’s team, right?
 
Are they?
adding the two worst pac brands to the MW and calling it the pac is the definition of polishing a turd. the new pac will be a power conference like the aac was a power conference
 
Seton Hall and St. John's should have been in, I know the bubble shrank but to not have them be at least in the first four is dumb. Yet Michigan St gets their annual pass that they get every year.
You know what else though? Maybe it shouldn’t, but history and reputation matter. They just do. If selection were only metrics, like say Hockey, it would be different. But when a traditional power is on the bubble, it gets the benefit of the doubt. Michigan State and Virginia are going to get it. UConn likely will at some point in the future. For years crappy Indiana teams got in because they were Indiana. Georgetown got them in the 90s. There are going to be a couple of “legacy bids” every year. There always are. Usually they are less obvious but with the advent of all the metric nonsense plus the high number of upsets for league tournaments this year, they aren’t as well hidden.
 
Your posts are somehow getting even worse by the day.
Fanboy speaks. Are you a UConn fan or just a NEWBIE fanboy? Why do you even care whether St John’s or Seton Hall, 2 mediocre teams, got in?
 
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I’m not disagreeing with you. FAU is clearly in based on the fact that they went to the F4 last year. If they don’t do that, not a chance they’re in the field this year. There are other head-scratchers, I’m just saying why the committee undervalued the mid-tier teams beating up on each other. They need to take care of business OOC so that our league isn’t viewed as completely top-heavy.
Didn’t FAU beat Arizona in Arizona?
 
The entire cbb world is going to forget the snubs the second the tournament starts.

You really think final 4 coverage will spend a second on seton Hall?
If 3 BigEast teams made the FF they would absolutely revisit this. Not in a specific team way, but as a story about the league and how they only got 3 teams and all 3 are here.
 
I never thought that on Selection Sunday I would be so fired up over other teams and not our own. Not sure if other BE Teams would be as concerned about us had we not made it (circumstances reversed w/ records etc) but that’s what makes us UCONN.

People can say what they want. St. John’s was a tourney worthy team. I don’t agree with skipping NIT but understand their frustration.

The selection committee has been tainted by football schools and TV money. There’s no other way around it.
 
Didn’t FAU beat Arizona in Arizona?
That was maybe the best nonconference win any team had all year. They also had some terrible losses. They're a total toss-up.
What seems clear is that they were slotted into an 8-9 game like a week ago and never moved off it, when they should by rights have been a First Four type team. Same with Michigan State. The games matter until they don't.
 
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But how much of that was us, Marquette, and Creighton? I think that’s the issue. The mid-range teams were largely disappointing in OOC. Butler and Nova probably had the best OOC of the group and then both crapped their pants in league play.
But even Butler and Villanova had duds. Nova's losses were horrific. Butler's OOC had one solid win: Boise State. But they hurt their own metrics by needing 2OT to beat ACC power-house California, and lost to both Michigan State and Florida Atlantic. Michigan State beat them by 20.
 
Zero fear from me. Uconn and the Big East got screwed. It has nothing to do with fear. I think we're going to win the whole thing if we're healthy, I've thought that since January. I also know we got royally screwed.
If you have no fear and claim UConn got screwed wouldn't it mean that Iowa State, Illinois and Auburn got screwed more by getting us?

If you believe we are going to win the whole thing then why does it matter who we play?

I get it. I much rather have the bracket Purdue and UNC have than our bracket because the path looks easier on paper. But paper doesn't play the game. No one would have predicted Houston, Purdue and UNC losing their finals in their respective conference tournaments. There are no guarantees in sports which is why so many of us watch games.

So yes we got "screwed"! We deserved an easier path as a reward for our season. Personally I'll be only slightly more tense each game than if the teams were less good. I felt last season the hardest tournament game we played was Iona. We were lucky their shooter had back spasms. I'm not going to blame our commissioner for something that she has little or no control over. Our bubble teams were not forced to schedule the teams they scheduled. They were not forced to lose games they should have won.
 
The entire cbb world is going to forget the snubs the second the tournament starts.

You really think final 4 coverage will spend a second on seton Hall?
The university president's will continue to care because bread ($$$$) was stolen from their mouths
 
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If you have no fear and claim UConn got screwed wouldn't it mean that Iowa State, Illinois and Auburn got screwed more by getting us?

If you believe we are going to win the whole thing then why does it matter who we play?

I get it. I much rather have the bracket Purdue and UNC have than our bracket because the path looks easier on paper. But paper doesn't play the game. No one would have predicted Houston, Purdue and UNC losing their finals in their respective conference tournaments. There are no guarantees in sports which is why so many of us watch games.

So yes we got "screwed"! We deserved an easier path as a reward for our season. Personally I'll be only slightly more tense each game than if the teams were less good. I felt last season the hardest tournament game we played was Iona. We were lucky their shooter had back spasms. I'm not going to blame our commissioner for something that she has little or no control over. Our bubble teams were not forced to schedule the teams they scheduled. They were not forced to lose games they should have won.
I get it, things don’t always play out as on paper, but the committee’s responsibility / job is to make it fair on paper. They had an epic failure that’s inexcusable. The process either lacked basic integrity, was grossly incompetent, or plain lazy. None of those is acceptable and it may be a combination. Heads need to roll.
 
If you have no fear and claim UConn got screwed wouldn't it mean that Iowa State, Illinois and Auburn got screwed more by getting us?

If you believe we are going to win the whole thing then why does it matter who we play?

I get it. I much rather have the bracket Purdue and UNC have than our bracket because the path looks easier on paper. But paper doesn't play the game. No one would have predicted Houston, Purdue and UNC losing their finals in their respective conference tournaments. There are no guarantees in sports which is why so many of us watch games.

So yes we got "screwed"! We deserved an easier path as a reward for our season. Personally I'll be only slightly more tense each game than if the teams were less good. I felt last season the hardest tournament game we played was Iona. We were lucky their shooter had back spasms. I'm not going to blame our commissioner for something that she has little or no control over. Our bubble teams were not forced to schedule the teams they scheduled. They were not forced to lose games they should have won.
Remember, last year we were screwed by the committee, too! Underseeded, and then Iona-St. Mary's-Kansas-UCLA was a totally unfair run to have to get to the Final Four.

This fanbase is always upset. Everyone is always out to get us.

I think the East is poorly bracketed. I think there are non-conspiracy answers: committee finished too soon and some procedural issues. Occam's Razor and all...
 
The university president's will continue to care because bread ($$$$) was stolen from their mouths

Schools like UConn operate billion dollar budgets. Seton Hall getting an additional $2M for the league divided up against 11 teams is the repair for a new bathroom in a dorm. Totally immaterial to anything on a prez radar.
 
Remember, last year we were screwed by the committee, too! Underseeded, and then Iona-St. Mary's-Kansas-UCLA was a totally unfair run to have to get to the Final Four.

This fanbase is always upset. Everyone is always out to get us.

I think the East is poorly bracketed. I think there are non-conspiracy answers: committee finished too soon and some procedural issues. Occam's Razor and all...
It's fine to think both that there were poor decisions made by the committee and that it doesn't matter all that much. You can't win a title without beating tough teams.
What is galling is that people on here, like the fans of dozens of other teams, take this seriously, and the people who have the actual decision-making power manifestly don't. They either don't know or don't care, and make up excuses after the fact to explain half-baked decisions.
It's ok to be mad about that.
 
Fanboy speaks. Are you a UConn fan or just a NEWBIE fanboy? Why do you even care whether St John’s or Seton Hall, 2 mediocre teams, got in?
The conference gets paid for the number of teams they get in and the further they go the more money it makes. It's economics.
 
It's fine to think both that there were poor decisions made by the committee and that it doesn't matter all that much. You can't win a title without beating tough teams.
What is galling is that people on here, like the fans of dozens of other teams, take this seriously, and the people who have the actual decision-making power manifestly don't. They either don't know or don't care, and make up excuses after the fact to explain half-baked decisions.
It's ok to be mad about that.
It's totally okay to be mad.

Where I think it crosses into comedy is the conspiracy-theory driven stuff that fuels this "EVERYBODY HATES US" mentality typically indicative of a middle school mentality.

They did a bad job. We agree. The seedings were all over the place. St. John's or Seton Hall or both should be in. But...there were other rational reasons for that we might disagree with than a conspiracy.
 
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