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It's totally okay to be mad.

Where I think it crosses into comedy is the conspiracy-theory driven stuff that fuels this "EVERYBODY HATES US" mentality typically indicative of a middle school mentality.

They did a bad job. We agree. The seedings were all over the place. St. John's or Seton Hall or both should be in. But...there were other rational reasons for that we might disagree with than a conspiracy.
This. And after the "everybody hates us" screaming the irrational blame game goes into full throttle. The real solution is for coaches and teams to never be in a position that relies on subjective decision making. Schedule good opponents and beat them. The BE teams currently have that option.

The small conferences have a better reason to be angry. They can't schedule enough quality opponents to accomplish the goal of getting into the NCAA tournament even if they are good. They have to win their conference tournament. That's the legitimate conspiracy. They provide filler for the media and hype for the NCAA tournament but they are and have been the real exploited victims. The ruling should be every conference champion and tournament champion should get AQs which would mitigate some of the scheduling inequity. But the haves will never go for that.
 
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There could be an emerging trend of declining relevance for the Big East and increasing leverage brought forth by the power conferences. Given the recent league executive's complacency, the Big East school Presidents should soon consider an executive change if some positive news (especially regarding existing and future anticipated revenues) does materialize in the near future. As someone previously alluded, executive delays at the Pac-12 led to a quick downward spiral and extinction.

Regarding UConn, Dave Benedict might now reconsider UConn's objective about how we might join a power conference and get more creative in how we negotiate with another conference! (maybe a unique approach specific for UConn, different from what SMU arranged financially with the ACC) Maybe UConn should revisit the known target of joining a higher revenue power conference for all sports (including football). The UConn Football program, with its extended period of losing records, has relegated itself and the University to a less desirable status as a prospective new conference member. (Note, there is Internet chatter out there that as Florida State moves forward with separating itself from the ACC, Brett Yormark, like he did with the remaining attractive PAC-12 schools, is now contemplating the swooping in and offering of conference membership to remaining desirable ACC basketball/football schools like Duke, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Syracuse, etc., if the more desirable ACC schools do end up joining the SEC and Big10. What conference options would UConn have if that were to happen??? Maybe it's now becoming more time sensitive (in terms of basketball importance and overall relevance) for UConn to consider joining a larger conference for all sports, except football, provided that it could negotiate a subsequent football entrance when some agreed-to performance criterion is met (such as achieving a 50% winning record over a continuous 3-year period). Football is essentially by itself as it is now anyway!
Yes. We cannot wait forever for our football program to ever improve to a level of respectability. While other ACC and SEC teams jockey for power conference invitations, we are playing musical chairs with our future. Val Ackerman isn’t going to do what’s best for UConn alone. She is supposedly responsible for the entire leagues’ members. We need to chart our own course if we are to survive in the near future. If that means accepting a power conference offer for all sports but football, so be it. We cannot risk our flagship basketball brand for the sake of our football program, the DePaul of division 1 football.
 
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This. And after the "everybody hates us" screaming the irrational blame game goes into full throttle. The real solution is for coaches and teams to never be in a position that relies on subjective decision making. Schedule good opponents and beat them. The BE teams currently have that option.
Or do what Michigan State does and schedule good opponents and lose to them every year and still easily get in the tournament. That only seems to work for them though.
 

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Or do what Michigan State does and schedule good opponents and lose to them every year and still easily get in the tournament. That only seems to work for them though.
At least next year Michigan State won't have to worry about getting an L from a BE team.
 
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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
 

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This is the exact opposite of the criteria they used last year when they totally ignored UConn's undefeated OOC including against the #1 ranked team.

If you compare the teams, you'll find the BE teams showed quite well in terms of metrics. The teams that got in had a similarly hard time.

Somehow Creighton's loss to Colorado State is held against the conference, but the fact they blew out UConn or made the Elite 8 last year with practically the same team is forgotten.
There's a reason Hurley called it a shell game. They have a very strong idea of who they prefer over who beforehand and adjust the criteria accordingly to justify their selections.
 

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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
Wow.

It sounds to me like the conference's message is "We're sorry some of our coaches publicly criticized the selections. Please forgive us".
 

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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
This will go over well in this thread!:)
 

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I cant get worked up about any team getting snubbed except Seton Hall. That is a direct slap in the face to the league when a 13-7 team with some major Q1a wins cant get a bid. A team 6 games over .500 in this league MUST be a virtual Automatic Qualifier. They really crapped the bed OOC, but still should be in.

St. Johns and Providence you could absolutely make cases for over the likes of the Virginias and FAU's, and Michigan States, but then again, I have no problem understanding the case against them too. That one is on them as much as it is on the committee. They can share the blame.
They didn't even have any questionable out of conference losses.
 
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There could be an emerging trend of declining relevance for the Big East and increasing leverage brought forth by the power conferences. Given the recent league executive's complacency, the Big East school Presidents should soon consider an executive change if some positive news (especially regarding existing and future anticipated revenues) does materialize in the near future. As someone previously alluded, executive delays at the Pac-12 led to a quick downward spiral and extinction.

Regarding UConn, Dave Benedict might now reconsider UConn's objective about how we might join a power conference and get more creative in how we negotiate with another conference! (maybe a unique approach specific for UConn, different from what SMU arranged financially with the ACC) Maybe UConn should revisit the known target of joining a higher revenue power conference for all sports (including football). The UConn Football program, with it's extended period of losing records, has relegated itself and the University to a less desirable status as a prospective new conference member. (Note, there is Internet chatter out there that as Florida State moves forward with separating itself from the ACC, Brett Yormark, like he did with the remaining attractive PAC-12 schools, is now contemplating the swooping in and offering of conference membership to remaining desirable ACC basketball/football schools like Duke, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Syracuse, etc., if the more desirable ACC schools do end up joining the SEC and Big10. What conference options would UConn have if that were to happen??? Maybe it's now becoming more time sensitive (in terms of basketball importance and overall relevance) for UConn to consider joining a larger conference for all sports, except football, provided that it could negotiate a subsequent football entrance when some agreed-to performance criterion is met (such as achieving a 50% winning record over a continuous 3-year period). Football is essentially by itself as it is now anyway!
What do you mean "consider joining"? We've practically been begging to join because the alternative is becoming gradually less relevant financially and competitively. After over a decade of being left out people still post as if you can invite yourself to a top conference! Really? It doesn't work that way and those within the Boneyard community that have been anti-football will someday realize or leave as their legacy that they were unwittingly anti-UConn in all sports. Money was always a thing. Now it's the biggest thing moving closer to being the only thing.
 
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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
That was horrible. "Please don't be mean to us anymore. Can we clean your yacht or wash your limo?"
 
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Oh yes

One of the fans on the St. Johns board posted:

Not a huge fan but are we going to bring in a commissioner who is going to have BE teams start playing football? Because IMO, that is the elephant in the room; been hovering in the background for a while but the NCAA just delivered it front and center.

Also this:

We're totally expletive deleted if UConn suddenly figures out how to run a quality football program.
 
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There could be an emerging trend of declining relevance for the Big East and increasing leverage brought forth by the power conferences. Given the recent league executive's complacency, the Big East school Presidents should soon consider an executive change if some positive news (especially regarding existing and future anticipated revenues) does materialize in the near future. As someone previously alluded, executive delays at the Pac-12 led to a quick downward spiral and extinction.

Regarding UConn, Dave Benedict might now reconsider UConn's objective about how we might join a power conference and get more creative in how we negotiate with another conference! (maybe a unique approach specific for UConn, different from what SMU arranged financially with the ACC) Maybe UConn should revisit the known target of joining a higher revenue power conference for all sports (including football). The UConn Football program, with it's extended period of losing records, has relegated itself and the University to a less desirable status as a prospective new conference member. (Note, there is Internet chatter out there that as Florida State moves forward with separating itself from the ACC, Brett Yormark, like he did with the remaining attractive PAC-12 schools, is now contemplating the swooping in and offering of conference membership to remaining desirable ACC basketball/football schools like Duke, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Syracuse, etc., if the more desirable ACC schools do end up joining the SEC and Big10. What conference options would UConn have if that were to happen??? Maybe it's now becoming more time sensitive (in terms of basketball importance and overall relevance) for UConn to consider joining a larger conference for all sports, except football, provided that it could negotiate a subsequent football entrance when some agreed-to performance criterion is met (such as achieving a 50% winning record over a continuous 3-year period). Football is essentially by itself as it is now anyway!
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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
Think the relevant part is the following:

"We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year"

Get ready for some B12 looking schedules i.e. bunch of sub 200 kp teams that you can beat the brakes out off
 
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What do you mean "consider joining"? We've practically been begging to join because the alternative is becoming gradually less relevant financially and competitively. After over a decade of being left out people still post as if you can invite yourself to a top conference! Really? It doesn't work that way and those within the Boneyard community that have been anti-football will someday realize or leave as their legacy that they were unwittingly anti-UConn in all sports. Money was always a thing. Now it's the biggest thing moving closer to being the only thing.
Well, there was some talk of UConn joining the Big 12 for basketball and Olympic sports only, along with Gonzaga. Not sure how serious it was or only promoted by writers. UConn's stance, as far as I know, is it's everything including football, or nothing. The question is, how long can UConn maintain this stance?
 
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Why the hell do we have a nearly 80 year old retiree from Butler as our representative?

What exactly is Val doing as commissioner?

Collecting a paycheck

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Puts all eyes on the process.
The ACC comish complained loudly last year. Voila his crappy league got 5 bids at our expense this year.
 
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Well, there was some talk of UConn joining the Big 12 for basketball and Olympic sports only, along with Gonzaga. Not sure how serious it was or only promoted by writers. UConn's stance, as far as I know, is it's everything including football, or nothing. The question is, how long can UConn maintain this stance?
Take our football or no. Sorry. End of story.

Football did just fine in the old Big East, beating current B12 schools. It would do just fine in a B12 missing Oklahoma and Texas.

We help you by bringing in a program that has more championships than your best program and direct access to NYC, you help us by giving us a safe landing for the football team. It isn't hard.
 
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Take our football or no. Sorry. End of story.

Football did just fine in the old Big East, beating current B12 schools. It would do just fine in a B12 missing Oklahoma and Texas.

We help you by bringing in a program that has more championships than your best program, you help us by giving us a safe landing for the football team. It isn't hard.
Yeah but the basketball onlies would whine about losing our ancient rivalry with Creighton.. it goes all the way back to 2021.
 
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It's totally okay to be mad.

Where I think it crosses into comedy is the conspiracy-theory driven stuff that fuels this "EVERYBODY HATES US" mentality typically indicative of a middle school mentality.

They did a bad job. We agree. The seedings were all over the place. St. John's or Seton Hall or both should be in. But...there were other rational reasons for that we might disagree with than a conspiracy.
You also are ignoring how the committee loaded our bracket with good teams and if done out of sloppiness or incompetence would be detected by basic quality assurance filtering of basic metrics, as has been discussed. Why 4 of the 6 major conference champions are in our region is inexcusable, especially with us being an overall #1 seed.
 
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Yeah but the basketball onlies would whine about losing our ancient rivalry with Creighton.. it goes all the way back to 2021.
Nobody cares about Creighton. Basketball did suffer because no one cared about Tulane or Tulsa or East Carolina. But replace those programs with West Virginia, Cincy (both of whom we have football and basketball history with) and Arizona and Kansas... we'll be fine, even though most basketball fans would be sad to lose games against schools like Nova, etc.

I like the Catholic schools. I want them to succeed. I'm glad we went back to the Big East.

I also want UConn to survive whatever is happening next, and I want their football to improve.
 

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Schools like UConn operate billion dollar budgets. Seton Hall getting an additional $2M for the league divided up against 11 teams is the repair for a new bathroom in a dorm. Totally immaterial to anything on a prez radar.
It’s like $360k a year for however long a NCAA credit lasts. People act like it’s this major windfall, add it all up and it’s not even a quarter of the buyout of what we would’ve owed Ollie had we just paid him the first time. Basically like when you work one of those corporate jobs and someone sends you “recognition” and you get “points” to spend at some random company store that results in a $10 Starbucks giftcard or whatever.
 
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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
Val - best position yourself for the UE line. Very weak statement and pretends UConn was treated fairly and we were not. Fire Val Ackerman, have her hand out trophies or whatever if you can’t fire her. But, give her zero responsibility! She was not a bystander, she put a retiring gentlemen on the committee and he began his retirement a few weeks early.
 
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THE BIG EAST RESPONSE:

We are very proud that UConn earned the No. 1 overall seed in this year's NCAA men's basketball tournament following another tremendous season that included both the Big East regular season and tournament titles. Marquette, a No. 2 seed, and Creighton, a No. 3 seed, give the Big East three of the top 10 overall seeds in the tournament, as many as any other league. We consider each of them legitimate contenders for a Final Four berth and another Big East national crown on April 8th.

These high seeds follow our most successful Big East Tournament to date, which saw five sellouts and our usual impassioned crowds at The World's Most Famous Arena. Our four-year extension with Madison Square Garden, announced on Friday, means that the event, a New York City staple, will celebrate its 50th anniversary at MSG in 2032, a run unmatched in the college basketball world.

We have great respect for the NCAA men's basketball committee and the time and effort that goes into selecting and seeding the teams for the NCAA tournament. It is a very challenging job, and we have been advised that this year’s upsets added to the complexity and contributed to the committee's final bracket selections. Given the high level of play in our league, we are understandably very disappointed that some worthy Big East teams were not selected to participate. We will be working closely with our schools in the coming months to best position the Big East next year and to ensure that we continue to be represented in March Madness in a manner befitting our stature as one of the best conferences in college basketball.
Wow, why bother even making a public statement if this is it? I never had much against Val, but I’m in agreement now that she needs to be shown the door. Bring in someone with a pulse.
 

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marquette didn't beat an ncaa tournament team in the year 2024 and received a 2 seed.

val should be thankful! they respected what was accomplished in the ooc! when you play in a small time conference like the big east you have to PROVE it in the out of conference to get an at-large. marquette, creighton and uconn did that, no one else did!
 
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