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Where does Uconn Football goes from here?

uconnric said:
You seem to think that we are losing college football's version of the Fearsome Foursome (okay Threesome). Not exactly.
Yes I expect next year's defense to improve. Better understanding of what we're trying to do and I also think a young secondary will improve.
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I don't think they will improve because they are missing someting that can't be taught-speed and size. We need to recruit bigger faster players in the secondary.
 
whaler11 said:
Are you new here? Did you not see how long it took Edsall to get to competitive the first time?
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UConn beat Iowa State and Navy in his first year as a full blown D1A school. Edsall had no problem getting the team competitive, he just couldn't make it any better than that
 
nelsonmuntz said:
UConn beat Iowa State and Navy in his first year as a full blown D1A school. Edsall had no problem getting the team competitive, he just couldn't make it any better than that
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That was the last game of his 4th year. They were losing to the MTSUs of the world by 50 points at home.

Navy stunk out loud. 2-10. They beat SMU and Army.
 
whaler11 said:
That was the last game of his 4th year. They were losing to the MTSUs of the world by 50 points at home.

Navy stunk out loud. 2-10. They beat SMU and Army.
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I think Edsall is mediocrity in a bottle, so I am not the right poster to be his champion. That said, upgrading a mediocre FCS team is a longer road than turning around a poorly coached team that has some talent in a midmajor league.
 
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06029 said:
Neither UVA or MO are very good teams. UVA will likely lose out and maybe be a 5 win bowl team. MO is going nowhere.

Lashlee is not going to be a head coach in the SEC, so unless your worry is that he goes back to the SEC as on OC, I don't think you have a worry. And I don't think he is returning to any SEC school after this year. OC's at 3/4 win schools rarely get looked at.
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If you're going to quote a post, can you read it first.

I DID NOT say UVa and MO were very good teams. I said we got them at a time when they were playing their best ball of the year. UVa was on a roll, beating us, Boise and an undefeated Duke team. MO's offense is playing well the last few weeks, after struggling early. If we played MO early and UVa later, we might have caught a break.

I DID NOT say RL would get the HC gig at an SEC school. But I would not be surprised if a HC at FL, TN, OLE Miss, Miss St (assuming they lose coach to FL) looked to bring him as an OC at a sig raise. Coaches know coaches. And he is a known and proven quantity in the SEC. What our O has done this year exceeds everyone's expectations, by far. Ws are for fans, coaches do a deeper review than a USA Today review when assessing other coaches.

So please, when quoting, try and read the material you're quoting.
 
gioff23 said:
If you're going to quote a post, can you read it first.

I DID NOT say UVa and MO were very good teams. I said we got them at a time when they were playing their best ball of the year. UVa was on a roll, beating us, Boise and an undefeated Duke team. MO's offense is playing well the last few weeks, after struggling early. If we played MO early and UVa later, we might have caught a break.

I DID NOT say RL would get the HC gig at an SEC school. But I would not be surprised if a HC at FL, TN, OLE Miss, Miss St (assuming they lose coach to FL) looked to bring him as an OC at a sig raise. Coaches know coaches. And he is a known and proven quantity in the SEC. What our O has done this year exceeds everyone's expectations, by far. Ws are for fans, coaches do a deeper review than a USA Today review when assessing other coaches.

So please, when quoting, try and read the material you're quoting.
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I read it, I just don't agree with your opinions as they have no facts to support them.

UVA was week 3 and had lost to Indiana by 17 the week before the Uconn game. UVA managed only 28 against William and Mary.UVA beat up on weak competition to get to 5-1 and Duke was not undefeated when UVA played them (they lost to Miami the week before). To say they were on a roll at the time of the game is not an opinion that I see supported by any reasonable set of facts.

MO beat MO State, Idaho and now Uconn. While they may have scored more points starting the beginning of October, that team is not an offensive juggernaut and Uconn made them look like an undefeated team. MO's D was giving up an average of 39 points per game coming into last week. Again, I am not sure I see any support for your opinion that they were on a roll, unless 68 points against Idaho (2-5 in the Sunbelt) means a lot to you (their D allowed Idaho to score 21).

There is a huge talent gap between Uconn and any P5 team they play. Uconn can win against a P5 school on any given night, but they need to be 100% perfect and the other team needs to make mistakes.

On Lashlee, you have a little more basis for your opinion. He does not have a career trajectory that suggests that he is a hot commodity. I hope he stays but the points Uconn is putting up could get him some attention but I also think that W's matters when it comes to an SEC position. And he is very well known commodity in the SEC. Auburn's offense seems slightly improved without him (averaging 5 ppg higher in 2017).
 
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I can handle the occasional road apple game against a name OOC opponent, even a bad one. By comparison losing at home to bad Michigan was worse in terms of expectations.

It's the losing to the Virginia's and ECU's of the world that has to stop asap.
 
Love the sound reasoning and logic going around here.

We should be better, because well, we just should be.

QB play will be better without Sherriffs, because well, it should be.

The defense should be better, because how could it be worse?

We're people on here not watching the last four seasons? Does everyone suddenly think FCS talent is somehow going to be good enough to be competitive?

We're losing a kid at QB that has played good ball and is the most irreplaceable guy on the team, yet somehow even given the QBs we've run out there since Orlovsky, is criticized and underappreciated and people can't wait for the new shiny toy.

The defense is putrid, and they're losing most of the talent on it to boot.

This is going to take time. We've had the better portion of a decade of an unmitigated coaching and recruiting disaster.

Did people honestly expect Randy to walk in and we'd suddenly by 8-4 again?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Love the sound reasoning and logic going around here.

We should be better, because well, we just should be.

QB play will be better without Sherriffs, because well, it should be.

The defense should be better, because how could it be worse?

We're people on here not watching the last four seasons? Does everyone suddenly think FCS talent is somehow going to be good enough to be competitive?

We're losing a kid at QB that has played good ball and is the most irreplaceable guy on the team, yet somehow even given the QBs we've run out there since Orlovsky, is criticized and underappreciated and people can't wait for the new shiny toy.

The defense is putrid, and they're losing most of the talent on it to boot.

This is going to take time. We've had the better portion of a decade of an unmitigated coaching and recruiting disaster.

Did people honestly expect Randy to walk in and we'd suddenly by 8-4 again?
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I did but I had no idea how bad it was. I thought we would see the team that lost to navy last year.
 
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Coach J said:
At least the majority of snaps from the secondary are Freshmen or redshirt Freshmen and experience matters that will definitely reduce the learning curve for next year. That in of itself should help, also EJ Levenberry will back to play LB next year and that can't hurt either - but man how about starting with reducing the cushion on these guys it's like taking candy from a baby.
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I don't see how Levenberry will have eligibility left. To be granted a 6th year to play your four, you normally have to have missed two years due to injury. he missed this year due to injury but one year due to transfer.
 
The defense will be better next year. The secondary is practically all freshman and the two seniors, Bell and Summers are awful. So definite upgrade, and in a big way, there.

Linebackers. Joseph is gone and he'll be missed. And while Diggs is a terrific leader, he's a mediocre, at best, LB. Very replaceable. The other LB positions are held by freshmen, who are only going to be better. Hopefully Levenberry returns to replace Joseph. Most promising though are the three LB's coming in next year. I see the LB position being upgraded from this year.

That leaves the line. That'll be a downgrade, no argument can be made for any of the returning backups to exceed any of this years senior starters.

Overall, I expect two of the three defensive positions (LB and Secondary) to improve. Add another year playing the 3-3-5 system and we should see a better D next year than this.
 
How does anyone know RE is staying for a good long time? and how do we know he does not just bolt again? Leaving Uconn in a (likely) precarious situation?
 
Travelman32 said:
How does anyone know RE is staying for a good long time? and how do we know he does not just bolt again? Leaving Uconn in a (likely) precarious situation?
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Well I am sure he is a hot commodity getting blown out in most of the games so far. He is not getting a better job anytime soon. That's how u know he is staying.
 
Whenever I get really depressed, and I'm on that ledge, I think of Northwestern and Kansas State. For most of the 20th century, those were two of the worst football programs in America. Year after year of sucking.

Then about 20 or 25 years ago, they had good coaching hires and the college football gods began to shine on them.

Our history (baggage) is nowhere near as bad as those two schools. If they can turn things around, we can.
 
Redding Husky said:
Whenever I get really depressed, and I'm on that ledge, I think of Northwestern and Kansas State. For most of the 20th century, those were two of the worst football programs in America. Year after year of sucking.

Then about 20 or 25 years ago, they had good coaching hires and the college football gods began to shine on them.

Our history (baggage) is nowhere near as bad as those two schools. If they can turn things around, we can.
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Kansas St almost dropped down to D1-AA in the late eighties. Yea, it was that bad.
 
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Chief00 said:
I don’t want to speak out of school so I will be general. Anyone who has talked to Dave Benedict privately knows he is very realistic about the mess Randy inherited and how long it will take to fix it the right way. He feels Randy will do it but it’s a multi-year process. I can’t argue with that. He also knows it’s tough to tell people to be patient after 6 years of hell. But, appropriately people do need to be patient.
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As Randy has said, "recruiting, recruiting, recruiting", and that will take some time. On QB, if Marvin Washington is so highly thought of by the coaches, then he's our guy next year.
 
What's a reasonable expectation ...

Edsall. Benedict pulled a wonderful move pushing Diaco out the door. And getting one of the few highly qualified and energetically motivated HC ... willing to work for $1. (The fact that the State doesn't reconfigure its ethics posture to allow his qualified son to work ... is poor form)

Then, HCRE overachieved in hiring by staff. I thought he would pull a Randy ... and we'd see Norries, Lyndon, Hank. But he buffed up his Rolodex and went for a little younger then key specific slots - and I actually still believe in Crocker and Wholley. Lashlee and Grimes are a big win. And as a Team of 9 recruiters plus Steinberg, Z and White ... we are 120% better than anything UConn football has been in the FBS age. Will that get us 4stars? Not going to say never. But the angst of some tossing out phrases like FCS is weak. We didn't have FCS talent in 2006-2010; now we have a better mix. Will we still take a 6-8 280 lb kid from Schenectady? Sure. Nobody named Rutgers or Wake will ever have seen him ... nor even Syracuse. Top school for Canadians? We've done great there ... and never saw one of them get a fair star evaluation and you'll never know if another US school is wanted them.

Shirreffs? I always liked him. Whether he's the best since Orlovsky, I'm not ready to say. I liked Lorentzen; but he played hurt and limited. Shirreffs does not surprise me with his leadership and moxie. The point is College ball really needs a good QB these days. We can get better than Shirreffs. That guy may be on the roster or coming in. But the previous HC regimes looked woefully inept.

I expect HCRE/TR to bring in several new great RBs. Better and better OL play. We have a good core of WRs. Going forward, the Offense could be better next year.

The speed and athleticism of the DBs is the targeted criticism. That has to be the one component that jumps in the next 12 months. The ineffectiveness of Bell and Summer is ... horrifying given my expectations. But Swain, Coyle, Fortt, Terry etc can improve dramatically. (Remember how bad Melinfonwu was and Adams. Big improvement over years). You have to think that Edsall - once again - spends enormous time on this specific unit. Tackling will get better with years of experience.

We are in a tough conference. And the brand names don't give us Pitt or Syracuse or WVU or BC; but, they might be tougher games. USF. UCF. Memphis. Houston. Navy. We faced some woeful years of the bigger names. With luck, we build a construct on O and D and Specials beyond HCRE 1.0. We will then win 7-9 per year with an occasional 10 win. And fans begin to return. We will never sell out regularly like the early BE. But we can find a big game for a full stadium demand. That's our current best case.
 
Pudge said:
What's a reasonable expectation ...

Edsall. Benedict pulled a wonderful move pushing Diaco out the door. And getting one of the few highly qualified and energetically motivated HC ... willing to work for $1. (The fact that the State doesn't reconfigure its ethics posture to allow his qualified son to work ... is poor form)

Then, HCRE overachieved in hiring by staff. I thought he would pull a Randy ... and we'd see Norries, Lyndon, Hank. But he buffed up his Rolodex and went for a little younger then key specific slots - and I actually still believe in Crocker and Wholley. Lashlee and Grimes are a big win. And as a Team of 9 recruiters plus Steinberg, Z and White ... we are 120% better than anything UConn football has been in the FBS age. Will that get us 4stars? Not going to say never. But the angst of some tossing out phrases like FCS is weak. We didn't have FCS talent in 2006-2010; now we have a better mix. Will we still take a 6-8 280 lb kid from Schenectady? Sure. Nobody named Rutgers or Wake will ever have seen him ... nor even Syracuse. Top school for Canadians? We've done great there ... and never saw one of them get a fair star evaluation and you'll never know if another US school is wanted them.

Shirreffs? I always liked him. Whether he's the best since Orlovsky, I'm not ready to say. I liked Lorentzen; but he played hurt and limited. Shirreffs does not surprise me with his leadership and moxie. The point is College ball really needs a good QB these days. We can get better than Shirreffs. That guy may be on the roster or coming in. But the previous HC regimes looked woefully inept.

I expect HCRE/TR to bring in several new great RBs. Better and better OL play. We have a good core of WRs. Going forward, the Offense could be better next year.

The speed and athleticism of the DBs is the targeted criticism. That has to be the one component that jumps in the next 12 months. The ineffectiveness of Bell and Summer is ... horrifying given my expectations. But Swain, Coyle, Fortt, Terry etc can improve dramatically. (Remember how bad Melinfonwu was and Adams. Big improvement over years). You have to think that Edsall - once again - spends enormous time on this specific unit. Tackling will get better with years of experience.

We are in a tough conference. And the brand names don't give us Pitt or Syracuse or WVU or BC; but, they might be tougher games. USF. UCF. Memphis. Houston. Navy. We faced some woeful years of the bigger names. With luck, we build a construct on O and D and Specials beyond HCRE 1.0. We will then win 7-9 per year with an occasional 10 win. And fans begin to return. We will never sell out regularly like the early BE. But we can find a big game for a full stadium demand. That's our current best case.
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Totally agree it’s a very underrated football conference in the top half compared to the most recent Big East football teams.
 
Pudge said:
(The fact that the State doesn't reconfigure its ethics posture to allow his qualified son to work ... is poor form)
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No need to. RE and school did everything properly under the ethics rules. The committee needed to create two fictions (effectively, they the rewrote they contract to change the start date and the change of command) to manufacture ethics violations that didn't exist. RE and the school will prevail in court.
 
Next year will be very interesting, I honestly do not think they will burn redshirts like they did this year unless it comes down to injuries. Uconn football is going to rebuild in the next two years and what they really need are players that are hungry to win games in and out. I heard that couple of players might leave in the spring, I do not remember where i read that article from, but Uconn really need to load the defense with talent.
 
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whaler11 said:
That was the last game of his 4th year. They were losing to the MTSUs of the world by 50 points at home.

Navy stunk out loud. 2-10. They beat SMU and Army.
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And UConn wasn't too much different then in make up as it is now....basically FCS players. They were only four years into a BCS building program.

MTSU has had a consistently solid program......FCS championship, and a few years ago beat Michigan at Michigan.

Losing to a program like MTSU isn't a disgrace........however, barely beating Maine, HC doesn't light the fireworks.
 
tduconn said:
And UConn wasn't too much different then in make up as it is now....basically FCS players. They were only four years into a BCS building program.

MTSU has had a consistently solid program.FCS championship, and a few years ago beat Michigan at Michigan.

Losing to a program like MTSU isn't a disgrace...however, barely beating Maine, HC doesn't light the fireworks.
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MTSU is Middle Tennessee not Appalachian State.
 
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