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What's your prediction for the Big 12 expansion announcement?

What's your prediction for the Big 12 expansion announcement?

  • Expand by 2 UConn included

  • Expand by 2 without UConn

  • Expand by 4 UConn included

  • Expand by 4 without UConn

  • Does not expand gets ESPN payoff

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When I set up this poll, I didn't allow people to change there votes. Now I wish I had. It would be interesting to see how each day's rumors effects people's opinions.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I still think the Big 12 is looking for a handout without expanding.
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You may be correct. Unfortunately. Then we find out ESPN paid the Big 12 not to expand, as the state University where they conduct business is desperately trying to join a P5. Something has to give. Would this fly if ESPN was in Memphis?
 
GemParty said:
You may be correct. Unfortunately. Then we find out ESPN paid the Big 12 not to expand, as the state University where they conduct business is desperately trying to join a P5. Something has to give. Would this fly if ESPN was in Memphis?
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Nope. And I suspect(hope) it won't fly this time around in CT. I think almuni will/should really put the heat on state representatives to change terms of the ESPN tax deal.
 
Pretty clear Houston is must add even though their academics are pathetic and don't fit by any rational standard other than the Texas Governor says so.

The next is classic sheep-think - Cincy. Again, non-flagship university in a market with no expansion potential. The state is already dominated by the Big10. The sole basis for the assumed inclusion is proximity to UWV and a good, not exceptional, football program. Cincy would be the dumbest add ever made.

So, the two best suited schools in terms of national presence, quality academics and real big budget support could be left behind (BYU and UConn). That is the twisted state of affairs of CFB CR.
 
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With recent comments by Kirk Bohls and Barry Travel, it looks like "stay at 10 and get more money" is very much in play despite Doug's assertion otherwise.
 
Rich Coppola is on NESN right now and doing a great job of hyping up UConn as a Big 12 candidate to the greater Boston/New England audience (football on the rise, basketball recruiting, etc.).
 
nelsonmuntz said:
With recent comments by Kirk Bohls and Barry Travel, it looks like "stay at 10 and get more money" is very much in play despite Doug's assertion otherwise.
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If that ultimately becomes the decision made, the B12 will be condemning every available school out there, lumping them all together and portraying them as one big snow pile. That means the perception going forward will be that none of these schools is worthy of a seat at the P5 table. If that's the case now, imagine how bad it will be for us several years from now, with progressively dwindling resources. We'll be lucky by then to be able to field an athletic program that would be competitive in the America East.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
With recent comments by Kirk Bohls and Barry Travel, it looks like "stay at 10 and get more money" is very much in play despite Doug's assertion otherwise.
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I think they did want that, before the ACC solidified. Now you've got a situation where 8 of the 10 can't feel comfortable that they have a landing spot after 2025. UT knows that it cannot and will not be the "big dog" in any other league, and no other league would allow the LNH to persist. OU likely can land elsewhere, but they are driving this process for a reason, they want the Big 12 to succeed.

The result is that they know they must expand. It's all just jockeying for position now. I still think UConn makes the cut unless the ACC offers first.
 
Don't anybody hold your breath waiting for the ACC to ride in on a silver horse and snatch us away from the B12 just in the nick of time. We're ridin' high with the Great Plains state boys or we will continue to rot in the AAC (America's Average Conference).
 
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I've changed my mind. I think Houston and Cincinnati are taken. We replace Houston with Rice, a quality school. But replacing Cincinnati is impossible. Marshall? Northern Illinois? Old Dominion? It gets so depressing. Maybe we just stay at 10.
 
Redding Husky said:
I've changed my mind. I think Houston and Cincinnati are taken. We replace Houston with Rice, a quality school. But replacing Cincinnati is impossible. Marshall? Northern Illinois? Old Dominion? It gets so depressing. Maybe we just stay at 10.
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I still think it's going to be Cincy/UConn but if it's not, what about Charlotte?
 
4 - Houston, Cincy, UConn and UCF takes BYU's spot if this controversy hurts them.

Fox gets new material and 3 eastern time zone teams since it's rumored they want to go east.
 
Redding Husky said:
I've changed my mind. I think Houston and Cincinnati are taken. We replace Houston with Rice, a quality school. But replacing Cincinnati is impossible. Marshall? Northern Illinois? Old Dominion? It gets so depressing. Maybe we just stay at 10.
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OK, that's it. I've snapped. Nothing personal against you Redding...I enjoy your posts, but I cannot handle any more speculation about what's going to happen to the AAC after the defections, with us still rotting away in purgatory.

We're going to a P5 conference, somehow, some way, maybe not now, but eventually. No more!

No more defeatist thinking!

No more endless speculation about AAC leftovers.

No more endless pro and con metric analyses.

We are going to be in a P5 conference, damn it! I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of this snow.

If we don't make it in this time, you and I and the rest of us who actually have to live and work in B12 country will be totally humiliated. Think about what it will be like having to deal with snickering co-workers, practical jokesters, and just plain mean people spending all of their time rubbing it in our faces. Also, I don't even want to think about what it will be like around here if UH gets in and we don't. I'd rather be dead than have to deal with that. Head bang
 
I read today that the B12 is a circus right now with realignment and that no decision will be made until after the season starts. This may be good for us. The biggest obstacle for us is weak football. The other main factor against us, geography, will be mitigated by a positive football perception. There is no way we stay in a G5 conference if we are considered even OK at football.

1. We are a flagship state university with excellent academics.
2. We have a tradition of winning in other sports, including the other big revenue sport.
3. We have a great media market and avid fans.
4. We have a great football coach who is recruiting HUGE players.
5. We have among the highest number of returning football players in the NCAA.

Add it up, and we will be better at football over the next few years. Once we reach the level of being consistently OK at football, we will find a landing spot in the P5. Even if the worst case scenario happens and they take Houston and Cincinnati (no way they go to 4 without us), we will play 4 rising football programs in UCF, USF, ECU, and Temple. If we consistently beat them and a few P5 out of conference schools every year, we will prevail.
 
Based on prior experience, I'm expecting something like this.

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MattMang23 said:
I feel like as fans we have been putting major money down in the past with a 9 and an ace only to see the dealer (conferences) come up with two kings and an ace. This time we are holding, like, a 16 and just praying Memphis, who's sitting next to us, doesn't draw a six or less as they're sitting there with a 15.

After that long analogy, I guess I'm just saying I'm not optimistic.
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Somebody in Storrs better be really good at counting cards.
 
BlueandOG said:
I read today that the B12 is a circus right now with realignment and that no decision will be made until after the season starts. This may be good for us. The biggest obstacle for us is weak football. The other main factor against us, geography, will be mitigated by a positive football perception. There is no way we stay in a G5 conference if we are considered even OK at football.

1. We are a flagship state university with excellent academics.
2. We have a tradition of winning in other sports, including the other big revenue sport.
3. We have a great media market and avid fans.
4. We have a great football coach who is recruiting HUGE players.
5. We have among the highest number of returning football players in the NCAA.

Add it up, and we will be better at football over the next few years. Once we reach the level of being consistently OK at football, we will find a landing spot in the P5. Even if the worst case scenario happens and they take Houston and Cincinnati (no way they go to 4 without us), we will play 4 rising football programs in UCF, USF, ECU, and Temple. If we consistently beat them and a few P5 out of conference schools every year, we will prevail.
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The problem is $$$ we don't have the time.

The B12 isn't using logic and that is bad for us. This is good ol boy business and not about metrics.

I am boycotting ESPN if we dont get in, blocking it on my tv. Most treacherous behavior from them if they don't help the state + taxpayers that subsidized them.
 
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As of this morning:

UConn is not going to the B12 - 128 votes (2 w/o - 65, 4 w/o - 48, no adds - 25)
UConn is going to the B12 - 119 votes (2 with - 13, 4 with - 106)

We are a pessimistic bunch overall, but the single largest contingent is hopeful.
 
Sources: Big 12 to talk expansion with 17 schools

Sources also said it's "becoming less and less likely" that the league will expand to 14 teams. The most likely scenario is that the Big 12 will stay at 10 teams or only add two schools for a 12-team league with two six-team divisions, sources said.

The 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 includeCincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU and New Mexico, sources said.
 
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Eskapeesto said:
Sources: Big 12 to talk expansion with 17 schools

Sources also said it's "becoming less and less likely" that the league will expand to 14 teams. The most likely scenario is that the Big 12 will stay at 10 teams or only add two schools for a 12-team league with two six-team divisions, sources said.

The 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 includeCincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU and New Mexico, sources said.
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Doesn't sound like good news for UConn.
 
Charley Horse said:
I'm afraid they will take Cincy for OU, UofH for Texas and stop at 12 for ESPN, but I really hope OU likes UConn just as much as they like Cincy and that ESPN encourages them to opt for UConn over Cincy because of the better market. Meanwhile Texas will likely bluster about having to fly a little further but secretly smile because UConn is much better academically.
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Three weeks later, I'm still convinced the Big 12 will expand by only two. I'm still convinced BYU is out and Cincy is in. And I'm still convinced the 12th spot comes down to UofH or UConn, but I'm beginning to doubt that Texas' support of UofH's is geninely heartfelt.

My thought now is that Fenves (and Tech's Schovanec) were simply paying lip service to appease the governor's office.

So as of today, I'm convinced the Big 12 expands by two by adding Cincy and UConn.

And I pick Tuesday, September 13th as the announcement date.
 
Because it's the Big 12, Fresno St, Northern Illinois, North Texas and Old Dominion. A school in every direction. And they all play football.
 
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