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What would be the requirements for UConn to join the Pac-12 for football-only?

AZHuskiePop said:
UConn would seriously consider the PAC 12 or even the AAC as a football only If the PAC deal is at least $8,000,000 And the AAC deal is in the $5,000,000 range
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FWIW from these guys who cover west coast FB ..LIVE but back at about 3 or 4 mins in.......PAC is ready to add Texas State for a total of 9 members.... "no way they get the $90 mil a year TV deal " but closer to $65 mil a year ($7 mil ave. a year for full members but unequal payouts for Boise St etc., Gonzaga might get a full share ) Anyway "just in" alot of talk from their "sources" .........

 
Current AAC media rights deal runs through 2031-32 school year. No way it renews at its current rate. Half the teams under that contract have left and they were the higher value members.
 
ZooCougar said:
Constantly flying to the West Coast would suck. It’s really not that appealing. At all.
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I do not see it as 'constantly".. I see that as only several times a season. It's not much different than both our hoops teams have regularly travelled the country to face teams much better than the Big East or low G independents..

If we had a true opportunity, I believe we should take it and still keep our eyes and ears open. PAC would be a way to prove ourselves vs. the top G teams while we wait for the next realignment cycle.
 
Ldandy said:
Not saying either side is all that interested in this happening, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to put together if they did. UConn becomes a football only member. They are paid a portion of revenue commensurate with the value of football to the conference TV deal. In return UConn gives the PAC a handful of M/W Basketball Games OOC every year. Maybe something like 4 and 4 until they cycle through all teams. Starting the year with 8 football games already scheduled, would be a huge burden off the shoulders of the AD. It's not like UConn hasn't already played on the road at places like Wyoming, Boise, and Fresno in the past. It would still give the team an opportunity to schedule an FCS School, UMass, and two potential games against "local" G5 & P5 Schools.
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If that Memphis thing is real and apparently contingent upon them joining the Big East then that gives us leverage..
We could make our acceptance of Memphis into the BE conditional on our acceptance into the PAC as a football only . Member If the money is right .
Us having leverage is a rare thing
There is no question we need a football. Media deal for survival unless a P4 bid is imminent.
 
CL82 said:
I don't think they would, and frankly, I don't even think that's the analysis. The commentary from A.D.s in the big 12 was, essentially, since you are not in the P4, you are not worthy of being in the P4. That's a tough mountain to climb, particularly since you can find data to back it up.

First off, you can say our revenue is well behind a P4 team and you'd be right. Of course, if we had the same media revenue and CFP money that P4 teams get, we'd be significantly above the median revenue in the P4.

You can also say that are ratings numbers for football are well below the average P4 numbers and again, you'd be right. But if you put our games on a more visible platform, our ratings would be stronger.

You can also know the huge amount of institutional support that the university has to invest in football to keep it viable. It is a big number, but, again, if we had P4 media revenue and a CFP share, that number drops 40 million, minimally.

How do we overcome that? I'm not sure if we can. Continued basketball success, of course, significantly helps, but probably the best thing we can do is schedule and comfortably defeat P4 teams.

I don't have a lot of hope that we can get into a P4 conference. It is very hard to overcome the argument that if "you're not in the club, you don't deserve to be in the club"
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And yet fifteen schools have been promoted into the P4 - we were in a conference with 13 of them at one time or another. Nearly half the B12 got jumped up from the Big East or non-BCS conferences into the P4s.

Where we get killed, in particular, is that there is a media frenzy and a resulting fan frenzy every time we get mentioned for inclusion. It’s fatal.
 
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UCONNRPh said:
I do not see it as 'constantly".. I see that as only several times a season. It's not much different than both our hoops teams have regularly travelled the country to face teams much better than the Big East or low G independents..

If we had a true opportunity, I believe we should take it and still keep our eyes and ears open. PAC would be a way to prove ourselves vs. the top G teams while we wait for the next realignment cycle.
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Moving a football team across the country is not like moving a basketball team across the country.

This is just an awful idea. Like, absolutely awful.

We’re gonna try to recruit east coast kids to what will now be an entirely west coast schedule…it will not work because it doesn’t work. So we’ll end up sucking in a conference 3000 miles away and y’all will have stuck a fork in us.

No.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
If that Memphis thing is real and apparently contingent upon them joining the Big East then that gives us leverage..
We could make our acceptance of Memphis into the BE conditional on our acceptance into the PAC as a football only . Member If the money is right .
Us having leverage is a rare thing
There is no question we need a football. Media deal for survival unless a P4 bid is imminent.
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If you believe Thamel , the prospect of Pac football only membership is the reason Memphis now wants to join the BE. If true, I think it means Memphis believes Pac football only membership positions them much better for a P4 invite than taking their FB independent. They could otherwise have lobbied for BE membership years ago & taken their FB independent like UConn did.
 
Kowalski said:
If you believe Thamel , the prospect of Pac football only membership is the reason Memphis now wants to join the BE. If true, I think it means Memphis believes Pac football only membership positions them much better for a P4 invite than taking their FB independent. They could otherwise have lobbied for BE membership years ago & taken their FB independent like UConn did.
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And/or Memphis believes they can get more revenue by doing PAC+Big East than the AAC. Remains to be seen
 
CL82 said:
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You're right. I brain farted on that.

Personally, I don't think four West Coast trips would be prohibitive, if everything else, money, ease of leaving, etc. could be worked out. I'm not at all confident that it can be.
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Don't be too hard on yourself Homer, there could still be some logistical maneuverings. The trucks transporting all the football gear could drive directly from Colorado State to Utah State, an 8 hour drive, if those away games are played back-to-back. That's really the challenge for football. 7 hour drive from WSU to OSU. 3 hour drive from SJSU to Fresno. The flights for the football team don't really matter. If Memphis and 1 or 2 other easterly teams end up in the mix, even better.

It is not happening but it's conversation.
 
One major difference between today and October is the House settlement, meaning UConn needs to come up with a revenue sharing plan. Even if a FB share (call it 80%) of the PAC media deal is $5 million each year, that puts them at the top of G5 before considering NIL. I suspect the contract would be better because of the quality of the football, and as UConn is independent, there are not exit fees to pay.

4 games out west is doable. If Memphis is truly a possible member for FB, make them a protected rival, cut a deal for no back to back away conference games, and UConn football is in business. Maybe even in the playoffs at some point.
 
Kolumbo said:
Don't be too hard on yourself Homer, there could still be some logistical maneuverings. The trucks transporting all the football gear could drive directly from Colorado State to Utah State, an 8 hour drive, if those away games are played back-to-back. That's really the challenge for football. 7 hour drive from WSU to OSU. 3 hour drive from SJSU to Fresno. The flights for the football team don't really matter. If Memphis and 1 or 2 other easterly teams end up in the mix, even better.

It is not happening but it's conversation.
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You folks seem unfamiliar with our country.

A trip to Memphis every other year, which is 10 miles from the Mississippi border, is not relief.

The entire thing is ridiculous.
 
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There’s no part of Memphis that has any appeal.

If Louisville hooked up with its sister and had a baby that had to be immediately spirited off to a bell tower to avoid the townspeople drowning it, it would be Memphis.

No, thank you. Not here, not there, not anywhere.
 
DW1361 said:
I will pretend I didn’t see you add the AAC into this conversation. The PAC-12 is as low as I go. Interesting idea with the Big East NBC media contract. However, I believe CBS Sports picked us up for another two seasons. However do we get out of that? Being part of an ND double header is less likely than joining the BIG10 in my opinion. Nice thought though.
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I was brain storming ideas to increase football revenue
Your plan A is P4 but you need a plan B
We obviously stay in the Big East making $11,000,000 for basketball.
Maybe Football only in the PAC gets you another $8,000,000
but its brutal for travel however you probably do it with charters .
That kids can do a 4/5 hr flight is crazy
I do it all the time and I have ties older than these kids plus I’m flying commercial with connections. .
Why rule out The AAC football only’s get $4,000,000 not great but a lot more than we make now.
plus Its become a more local league
annual games with Army and Navy would be attractive plus it’s pretty regional by todays standards so . You could fill out a schedule with P4 heck we played 4 of the weaker AAC teams last year .
The last one was a shot in the dark but We have a media partner in NBC , why not leverage that the Big Deal deal by adding UConn football to keep us happy make us an offer
If we were to get good enough why not a Indy doubleheader on Sat.
 
Fishy said:
There’s no part of Memphis that has any appeal.
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Well there is Beale St if you're drunk enough.

Fishy said:
If Louisville hooked up with its sister and had a baby that had to be immediately spirited off to a bell tower to avoid the townspeople drowning it, it would be Memphis.

No, thank you. Not here, not there, not anywhere.
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Very true. Louisville views Memphis pretty much they way we view Louisville.

The best thing Memphis has going for it is that the Mississippi river keeps it out of Arkansas.
 
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I've never been to Memphis but it seems like a great city. You got the Mighty Mississip, Graceland, BBQ, Memphis Pryamid, FedEx, and no pro football team. Check that. It has the Memphis Showboats.

 
Kolumbo said:
I've never been to Memphis but it seems like a great city. You got the Mighty Mississip, Graceland, BBQ, Memphis Pryamid, FedEx, and no pro football team. Check that. It has the Memphis Showboats.

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Finally something I can agree with about Memphis in this thread. I only passed through Memphis on Highway 40 and the pyramid was very cool. I think it would be a fun stop and I even would enjoy watching a football game there.
 
Memphis is garbage. It's like the 400th best place to go in Tennessee.

The city is garbage, the school is garbage. It's all garbage.

You all hated slumming with them in the AAC and now you want to recreate that with Texas State thrown in for good measure? Chuckleheads.
 
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Kolumbo said:
I've never been to Memphis but it seems like a great city. You got the Mighty Mississip, Graceland, BBQ, Memphis Pryamid, FedEx, and no pro football team. Check that. It has the Memphis Showboats.

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“I’ve never been to Syria, but I hear it’s nice in the spring”.
 
Tennessee is a long state...it is further from Bristol Tn to Memphis than from Bristol to Canada...

You northern guys..LOL ! Memphis is a cultural mecca of sorts...Home to Graceland (southerners must take the Hajj once in their life), the iconic Sun Records Studio...the launcher of Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Leis, Carl Perkins and others....Museum of Soul Music...and on.
 
billybud said:
Tennessee is a long state...it is further from Bristol Tn to Memphis than from Bristol to Canada...

You northern guys..LOL ! Memphis is a cultural mecca of sorts...Home to Graceland (southerners must take the Hajj once in their life), the iconic Sun Records Studio...the launcher of Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Leis, Carl Perkins and others....Museum of Soul Music...and on.
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You’re a hayseed.

It’s crap hole. Graceland is a crap hole in a crap hole neighborhood.

As an attraction, Graceland makes Plymouth Rock look like Mount Rushmore.

Never go there.
 
billybud said:
Tennessee is a long state...it is further from Bristol Tn to Memphis than from Bristol to Canada...

You northern guys..LOL ! Memphis is a cultural mecca of sorts...Home to Graceland (southerners must take the Hajj once in their life), the iconic Sun Records Studio...the launcher of Elvis, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Leis, Carl Perkins and others....Museum of Soul Music...and on.
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So I live in Memphis and can tell you that Sun Records Studios and Graceland are ridiculous tourist traps. If you go there to watch a UConn game, stay a night & enjoy BBQ (BBQ Shop and Cozy Corner). There are also some really good IPA's down here if you like breweries (Soul & Spirits is right up there with any Vermont brewery I've been to). HOWEVER, Nashville outclasses it as a city in almost every way, and Nashville itself is a severely watered down / mediocre version of New York City.

It's not worse than Bridgeport or New Haven - which are horrible, horrible cities -- so I'm surprised to see so much derision for it on a UConn board. With that said, it's not really a city UConn needs to associate with in any way apart from an occasional basketball series.
 
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