What would a Big 12 or ACC invitation look like?

[John]

That would be awesome! It would be a nationwide conference with eyeballs in every time zone and access to recruiting in every major region. It would cut down on travel for the student athletes. It would be awesome for fans with games that are easier to get to and rivalries that actually mean something. Travel for non-football/basketball sports could be much more manageable as besides your "pod" there is another 1 or two that are not too far away. Conference tournaments would be awesome.

football would be awesome, those were always fun games

 

[Kolumbo]

ACC potential option. This is just my own concoction of course. Change happens quickly yet programs want some stability and the ACC seems to be the biggest band of strange bedfellows. This assumes the general consensus, Big Ten and SEC will be the P2, ACC and Big 12 will be the next Powerful 2, and then everyone else.

The ACC proposes an initiative to get to 24 programs and if you want in, you are in. If you want out, get out. Certain programs that want out have a get out of jail free card and a clean break and everyone moves on.

If you want in the ACC, you have 2 or 3 options, and as an example:

2 Year Silver Members - Commit 2 years, receive $20 million annually minimum, exit fees are astronomical
5 Year Gold Members - Commit 5 years, receive $40 million annually minimum, exit fees are very stiff
10 Year Platinum Members - Commit 10 years, receive $60 million annually minimum, exit fees are substantial

All current 18 members including ND are offered membership along with say another 10 programs, first come first serve.
UConn, USF, Memphis, Tulane, Temple, Kansas, OSU, WVU, Cincy, Houston, Texas Tech, Arizona
We know everyone would jump to the Big Ten or SEC if invited but maybe 6-8 have a legit shot. It's time to ante up. You are really only competing with the Big 12 and you have the east coast locked up bleeding westerly.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I don't see the SEC or Big 10 raiding the Big 12 again, and other than UNC and Virginia, I don't think there is anyone in the ACC that either of the P2 wants. This creates stability for both the ACC and Big 12. Without a need to do anything, any deal the Big 12 or ACC offer a new member is going to be pretty lean.

I do think that if something bigger happened, like a Big East and ACC merger or a split of football from other sports, there could be a window for a better deal.

 

[Kolumbo]

I don't see the SEC or Big 10 raiding the Big 12 again, and other than UNC and Virginia, I don't think there is anyone in the ACC that either of the P2 wants. This creates stability for both the ACC and Big 12. Without a need to do anything, any deal the Big 12 or ACC offer a new member is going to be pretty lean.

I do think that if something bigger happened, like a Big East and ACC merger or a split of football from other sports, there could be a window for a better deal.

I agree. Things are very stable at the moment. I do believe there are more valuable properties in addition to UNC and UVA in both the ACC and Big 12. I tend to value the Corner 4 more than others here but that's a different debate. That along with other CR variables will cause pressure on the equilibrium which is all we can hope for. No one really seems to know what the end game is.

 

[Jetskies]

2 Year Silver Members - Commit 2 years, receive $20 million annually minimum, exit fees are astronomical
5 Year Gold Members - Commit 5 years, receive $40 million annually minimum, exit fees are very stiff
10 Year Platinum Members - Commit 10 years, receive $60 million annually minimum, exit fees are substantial

the Amex Coast Conference.