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What is your take on Hurley and the Refs?

What answer best describes your opinion on Dan Hurley and his confrontational attitude with refs?

  • It's no big deal

    Votes: 71 18.0%
  • It energizes the team

    Votes: 49 12.4%
  • It intimidates refs into giving him a call

    Votes: 15 3.8%
  • It only makes Hurley look foolish

    Votes: 259 65.7%

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To me, Hurley was acting insane all game (per usual, which is why we love him). Unless he said something, like COMPLETELY out of line there was no need for the ref to T him up with 40 seconds left in OT. It shoudl've been called on him earlier if they were going to call it IMO. I'm also a high school coach who yells a lot at the refs when they suck lol. Unless you've coached before at a competitive level, its hard to truly understand how frustrating bad officiating can be
Because he behaved badly all game, the refs are not allowed to penalize them when he behaves badly at the end?
 
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Because he behaved badly all game, the refs are not allowed to penalize them when he behaves badly at the end?
I'm fine with him "behaving badly" on the court. It's better than having a drunk driving Mark Few or woman beater Chris Beard as coach.
 

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Was it my imagination or did Coach Hurley tone it down considerably for the Dayton game? Maybe he's gotten the message. Or someone has given him The Word.
I thought the same.
 

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Both can be true. Driscoll sucks and Hurley needs to keep it more in check - keep the passion, fight the bad calls but stop with the direct, personal insults. According to the rules he probably should have been ejected from the Memphis game, maybe that would have helped like it did a couple years ago to rein it in just enough.

I do find the rules about “inciting the crowd” and “jumping up from the bench” laughable though.
 
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I really feel so many here are caught up in pleasing the national media, you are not looking at the numbers.
In the most recent game Dayton had 30 foul shot attempts to 11. So for the tournament it is 98 to 47. Over 100% more foul shot attempts.
This is an insane number over 3 games and makes games almost unwinnable for a variety of reasons.
Many here, if you are truly UConn fans, need to wake up. Hurley was right the Driscoll crew screwed his team as did the crews that followed. The reporting both locally and nationally was one sided and very poor about what actually happened.
As you guys know, it’s not only the # of foul shots but foul trouble, screwed up rotations and chemistry.
There were certainly some bad calls, and the call in the Memphis at the end was bad, and the mised over the back in the Colorado game was even worse I think it’s fair to say that those two calls if they went the other way, would have produced a different result.
That being said, I find your statistics on the disparity in fouls not convincing
UConnis constantly being beat off the dribble fouls three point shooters and seems to be constantly out of position which leads to excessive fouling
on offense, I might agree with your premise that they aren’t getting calls, but they’re not penetrating enough , no real Post game from the centers
And Karaban and Ball have been pretty much one
Dimensional 3 point shooters
not putting any pressure on the referees to make calls


I have no idea if the referee you speak up has a personal vendetta against Hurley, and that it affects his judgment
If the coaches feel that’s the case, I would think it would be up to the athletic Director to use what should be their considerable influence with the big east to make sure the referee in question is not assigned to their games
obviously they would have no control of the assignments in the tournament games in Maui

I do acknowledge that you’ve been consistent in your feelings about the referees during the 2 years
Even as the team was winning
From where I sit, I thought the last two years there was more one-sided officiating especially when it came to our post players, sonogo and clingan
Than I saw this year
Always appreciate your take on things
 
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In case folks didn’t see it, a brawl broke out on the field between Michigan and Ohio State players with police in the middle of it actually using pepper spray on the players. This is the real type of embarrassment to college sports, not Hurley’s “antics”. Don’t hold your breath waiting for any of the players involved to be punished for it.
 
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I have read that article 3 times and every time I read it I think it’s even worse. When the cummulative foul count in Maui was 98 to 48 (a 50 shot spread) how can this idiot say with a straight face anyone is bending over to Hurley? Crazy!
I only thought the Memphis game was the one that the refs arguably helped cost UConn the game. Hurley is not looking to be “catered to”. He wants the same respect afforded to his team in the way they’re officiated that Coach K got with Duke in the early 90s, Belichick and the Patriots got in the early 2000s, and Andy Reid and the Chiefs get these days. None of those other 3 organizations would have had a game deciding call made on their coach in a spot where a ref could have ignored it, and none would have had their teams penalized for what a trainer muttered in a team huddle.
 
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I only thought the Memphis game was the one that the refs arguably helped cost UConn the game. Hurley is not looking to be “catered to”. He wants the same respect afforded to his team in the way they’re officiated that Coach K got with Duke in the early 90s, Belichick and the Patriots got in the early 2000s, and Andy Reid and the Chiefs get these days. None of those other 3 organizations would have had a game deciding call made on their coach in a spot where a ref could have ignored it, and none would have had their teams penalized for what a trainer muttered in a team huddle.

He's 52 years old, right? By this point he has to understand you don't get respect unless you give it.

It's one thing to hoot and holler at the refs. I like that. It's another to make it personal like Hurley does.

And frankly... scream all you want coach. Really. But don't act surprised when it bites you in the ass
 
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There's some interesting discourse going on around the Internet right now that I find fascinating.

A whole lot of people were upset yesterday when Hurley called out officials for not respecting a two time national championship winning head coach. People were calling him entitled, arrogant, etc because he believes his success in his profession has earned him some benefit of the doubt. On the other side of the coin, those same people and types of people say that bad calls going against him are brought upon himself through his behavior.

I'm not sure how you can have it both ways. I don't see how you can be indignant and talk about respect for the game and not treating a good coach favorably, and then speak out of the other side of your mouth and say him and the team deserve bad calls because he, in his mind, is trying to hold officials accountable for their decisions.

It's clear as day that his theatrics are a net negative for the program; but I don't necessarily believe they should be. If there is word of any officials trying to "teach him a lesson" or any evidence of it, there really should be an investigation and some sort of repercussions. You can't, as a paid professional, take your bias into account when making work decisions. If you are, you're compromising the integrity of the sport. Maybe I'm one of the few that sees it as serious of an issue as I believe it to be, but I think it's a conversation the media should be having.
The media would turn this into a hot take soap opera like everything else and that would solve nothing other than to add fuel to the fire. Refs just like judges are supposed to remain fair and neutral regardless of their personal feelings but we know in this day and age that's a farce and and very naive thinking. These people are human and if someone is verbally abusing them continually in a public space with millions watching it might tend to influence their feelings and actions towards someone whether they be intentional or not.
 

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His passion is a double edged sword. He lives and dies by this for all of us. Calhoun did the same. But when there is a such a lens on the program right now, rightfully so as we have earned the right to be called the back to back champs anytime someone describes us in a highlight or an article, that it wouldn’t hurt to not have stuff like this written. And it wouldn’t be written if there wasn’t material as provided by Dan. I respect his passion and will yo fight for the kids. I could do without the “F… clown” or F… joke” comments clear as day on tv. It’s not a good look.

I got a new dog last week and named him Hurley. My neighbor, a Gator fan down here in Florida who doesn’t follow hoops too closely, asked me how many technicals the dog has so far. Suck burn, I know, but also eye opening that that’s becoming the new narrative regarding Dan.
 
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His passion is a double edged sword. He lives and dies by this for all of us. Calhoun did the same. But when there is a such a lens on the program right now, rightfully so as we have earned the right to be called the back to back champs anytime someone describes us in a highlight or an article, that it wouldn’t hurt to not have stuff like this written. And it wouldn’t be written if there wasn’t material as provided by Dan. I respect his passion and will yo fight for the kids. I could do without the “ clown” or “ joke” comments clear as day. It’s not a good look.

I got a new dog last week and named him Hurley. My neighbor, a Gator fan down here in Florida who doesn’t follow hoops too closely, asked me how many technicals the dog has so far. Suck burn, I know, but also eye opening that that’s becoming the new narrative regarding Dan.
Ask him about the circus Urban Meyer ran at UF and what he allowed guys like Aaron Hernandez to get away with. Lmao
 
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Fair, but also not my point.
I understand. My point is that there’s lots of pearl clutching going on about Hurley’s antics being bad for college sports when we have stuff like that UF stuff and brawls on the field after the OSU Michigan game being broken up by police with pepper spray. In reality, it’s not even in the top 20 things that’s bad about college sports.
 

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I understand. My point is that there’s lots of pearl clutching going on about Hurley’s antics being bad for college sports when we have stuff like that UF stuff and brawls on the field after the OSU Michigan game being broken up by police with pepper spray. In reality, it’s not even in the top 20 things that’s bad about college sports.
Agreed. But it’s, in my opinion, not a look I like associated with my favorite team.
 
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Agreed. But it’s, in my opinion, not a look I like associated with my favorite team.
Do you think we would have seen a more and potentially much more subdued Hurley if not for the T called on his trainer? I think so. I think it really set him off. And would never have been called on a team coached by Coach K, Belichick, or Andy Reid. I get that refs are people and have feelings and egos too. But they are also professionals whose performances are allegedly being graded and scored for future assignments. That job is clearly not being done properly. And it’s hurting the sport.
 
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I only thought the Memphis game was the one that the refs arguably helped cost UConn the game. Hurley is not looking to be “catered to”. He wants the same respect afforded to his team in the way they’re officiated that Coach K got with Duke in the early 90s, Belichick and the Patriots got in the early 2000s, and Andy Reid and the Chiefs get these days. None of those other 3 organizations would have had a game deciding call made on their coach in a spot where a ref could have ignored it, and none would have had their teams penalized for what a trainer muttered in a team huddle.
What did the trainer mutter in team huddle?
 
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