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What do we have on this roster?

Right now the biggest thing is improving the roster. Hurley currently has recruited the no. 11 class for 2019 according to ESPN. This should be the focus.

Actually might also have to give credit to Chief as he was saying at the start that this year is about recruiting for next season and not as much about winning now. The problem is many of us want immediate satisfaction .
 
Every time someone suggested that this program couldn't be turned around immediately, they were met with a chorus of "hurr durr Chris Holtmann Ohio State hurr durr."

Even if that kind of first-year swing is possible...Hurley took Wagner from 5 wins to 13 in his first year, and Rhody from 7 to 8. When the AD made this hire, it did so with the understanding that Hurley was a program-builder concerned with building back towards long-term success, rather than a quick fix. This is Hurley's MO, and like it or not, we are all stuck with it for the duration of his contract.
 
"Rome was not built in a day". The same is true for our team. They will get better under Hurley. The key is patience. Unfortunately, some people lack it. I will still support this team through good and bad.
 
People weren't ready for a rebuild. We have a terrible fan base that doesn't know anything about sports.
UConn fans are the best in the Country if you ask me. Its a reason I'm on the Board.

What you have to realize is that a lot of fans here have long memories, mostly of the good times. We have high expectations, in September think all of our players are potential All Conference and have the best roster in the conference. Fans here have a Championship pedigree, not just National but many Conference titles. Fans here have seen quite a few All Americans (1st team always), NBAers and quite a few rags to riches (my man Hilton). We fans knew Calhoun would one day leave, but with the immediate Championship thereafter we were fooled. We thought the program wouldn't miss a beat, and therefore reality was replaced with fantasy. To add to that we brought in an inexperienced coach who we thought with an NBA pedigree would bring recruits and teach our players how to get to the next level.

Now we have a new coach and we are fooled again, mainly because of his immediate success, the play of our players against cupcakes and of course his name brand.

We all know that Hurley will need time, that this year was not to be a instant championship year. But we fans have passion, high expectations and a keen interest in making sure our players know they can't fail. We expect effort with talent or not. We expect to compete against anyone regardless or the opponents rank. We never expect to be punked. And we expect our players to never give up until the final whistle. That's our brand and it worked for 3 stars and 5 stars players to success.

So yeah rebuilding sucks, its unfamiliar and to impatient and high expectation fans its painful. So we stay in denial and begin each new season with thinking our players will blow threw the Conference.

This is a long way of saying UConn 'basketball' fans don't know what rebuilding looks like, never had to. We had stability, pedigree and a succession of Calhoun coaches out there to continue forward what he built.

I'm old school and even tonight, this fan in denial will turn on the TV and will leave reality in the remote, and cheer our team on with the expectation that we will win, regardless of our record, our marginal roster and our brand new Coach. Its not easy living in tomorrow, when you have a potential to have a surprising and uplifiting today tonight.

Just some may have low basketball IQ, but I read the posts and chat rooms and I can say the majority of fans weren't ready for this and want it to end (real soon). Until then we are stuck, in denial and wishing our change comes sooner than later. I'd want it no other way, I'm proud to be a Husky fan with all my fellow Yarders. Many of my friends and associates have moved on, hopped off the bandwagon or simply glance and see what's happening and to decide if its time to jump back on. They are the fans who have adjusted to rebuilding and made a decision to eliminate the pain.

Lets get through this together, I certainly can't do it alone. I believe that's why the Yard exist in full force and vibrant today as it was when we were Big East Champs. Honestly there is no difference in activity even though posters have changed.

This is my attempted 'muppetmaker' post for my fellow fans.
 
We really need more than just one of Tre Mitchell or qudus wahab. Both plus Precious or another big 3/stretch 4 is necessary. Probably fair to start thinking of who might be transferring out, no?
 
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UConn fans are the best in the Country if you ask me. Its a reason I'm on the Board.

What you have to realize is that a lot of fans here have long memories, mostly of the good times. We have high expectations, in September think all of our players are potential All Conference and have the best roster in the conference. Fans here have a Championship pedigree, not just National but many Conference titles. Fans here have seen quite a few All Americans (1st team always), NBAers and quite a few rags to riches (my man Hilton). We fans knew Calhoun would one day leave, but with the immediate Championship thereafter we were fooled. We thought the program wouldn't miss a beat, and therefore reality was replaced with fantasy. To add to that we brought in an inexperienced coach who we thought with an NBA pedigree would bring recruits and teach our players how to get to the next level.

Now we have a new coach and we are fooled again, mainly because of his immediate success, the play of our players against cupcakes and of course his name brand.

We all know that Hurley will need time, that this year was not to be a instant championship year. But we fans have passion, high expectations and a keen interest in making sure our players know they can't fail. We expect effort with talent or not. We expect to compete against anyone regardless or the opponents rank. We never expect to be punked. And we expect our players to never give up until the final whistle. That's our brand and it worked for 3 stars and 5 stars players to success.

So yeah rebuilding sucks, its unfamiliar and to impatient and high expectation fans its painful. So we stay in denial and begin each new season with thinking our players will blow threw the Conference.

This is a long way of saying UConn 'basketball' fans don't know what rebuilding looks like, never had to. We had stability, pedigree and a succession of Calhoun coaches out there to continue forward what he built.

I'm old school and even tonight, this fan in denial will turn on the TV and will leave reality in the remote, and cheer our team on with the expectation that we will win, regardless of our record, our marginal roster and our brand new Coach. Its not easy living in tomorrow, when you have a potential to have a surprising and uplifiting today tonight.

Just some may have low basketball IQ, but I read the posts and chat rooms and I can say the majority of fans weren't ready for this and want it to end (real soon). Until then we are stuck, in denial and wishing our change comes sooner than later. I'd want it no other way, I'm proud to be a Husky fan with all my fellow Yarders. Many of my friends and associates have moved on, hopped off the bandwagon or simply glance and see what's happening and to decide if its time to jump back on. They are the fans who have adjusted to rebuilding and made a decision to eliminate the pain.

Lets get through this together, I certainly can't do it alone. I believe that's why the Yard exist in full force and vibrant today as it was when we were Big East Champs. Honestly there is no difference in activity even though posters have changed.

This is my attempted 'muppetmaker' post for my fellow fans.

Good news. I can give you a headup and let you know if expecting to win when you turn on the TV is a good idea ;).
 
This is the biggest issue, we have a low college sports IQ fan base that isn't exactly passionate about sports but thinks their sports teams should be awesome just because there were awesome before not understanding the work that went into it.
My bad.
 
People weren't ready for a rebuild. We have a terrible fan base that doesn't know anything about sports.
Then don't beat Syracuse at MSG. I totally blame that well coached, well executed, well played game by everyone. Its what derailed the rebuild, it derailed the season, and had people on here talking about what seed we were going to get. I mean, if we lost that game by 20, this past week would have been viewed as progress. Maybe Boeheim is a sick genius, knew this would happen, and lost on purpose. Maybe this was his way to throw it back in Olander's face for years of torment.
 
He just said it didn’t he?

Wins and losses. First sentence

The only question really worth asking is:

Do you believe the prospects for success in the near future and long term are better under Hurley than under the previous Head Coach ?

My answer is an absolute Yes. I got chastised by a handful of guys on here when I said it was going to be a 2 to 3 year rebuild to get back to being ranked routinely, getting a good seed in the NCAA tournament and being the program that people remember.

Hurley is changing the culture AND bringing in better recruits with more complete games and better basketball IQ. Other than wanting to make the NIT to gain some postseason experience, the cieling on this season was always fairly low given the frontcourt limitations and lack of college game experience for Gilbert and Wilson.

Things WILL get better. It is just going to take a bit longer than many of us fans would have liked.
 
I think this years team is deff better. For as bad as Tarin has been lately- he’s deff better than Anderson. Larrier just completely fell off last year. Gilbert is a deff upgrade(don’t forget his ball hawking d) Jalen to me is the same - prolly a little worse- he seemed to “carry” the team more last year and Carlton has improved a “bit”. And polley is better than last year. And obviously Yakwe is better than DO.
 
Great post kitaman. I have a group of friends that still follow uconn religiously and then a bunch of other friends that can’t take the pain of watching anymore and will stick their toe back in when things seem to be getting better(cuse win, smu win) -Overall, great post. But I will admit some of my hard-core uconn friends said they’re done for a while after that Tulsa game on Wednesday. I don’t know if I’ll be able to watch that Tulane game today, Wednesday loss really bothered me. oh well pretty much last day of football tomorrow (should be a great championship Sunday) and then we’re on to what I call the “February doldrums” until March madness. Lol
 
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So many weird hot takes here.

Is the team better from a player perspective? Marginally but yes. The construction of the roster is worse than the players on it. That hasn’t changed.

Is the team playing better on the court? Despite the record, yes? This team didn’t need overtime to beat two cupcakes and didn’t lose by 40 to Arkansas. Instead we had a close loss to Arizona and an OT loss at Cinci where they never lose to anybody. We had a close loss to FSU, one of the best teams in the country.

This year we have easy wins and competitive losses. Last year we had close wins and blowout losses. Our offensive ball movement is vastly improved. Our shooting isn’t unfortunately. Our early season pressure defense was effective. Our half court man to man is not. Turnovers be damned, it’s time to bring back the pressure.

I think they are showing signs that they understand how they need to play. Some of these losses, like USF, were simply down to awful shooting. Gilbert was 3-12 against Zona, that was the game right there. They are better than the record shows.
 
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The coaching hasn't improved this year either and none of you KO haters can acknowledge that. I do believe long term Hurley is the right choice

I also believe this team has 2 more wins under KO. He would have zoned more and not as many turnovers. Also think he would have made better adjustments in certain games. That doesn't mean he is/ was the man for the job but Hurley hasn't exactly lit the world on fire

Hard to support this view - this team is more efficient than KOs team last year; and you are also assuming that the team would be intact if KO has returned.
 
Having Larrier on this year's team would have helped with freeing up JA+AG on offense, but defense would still be a concern. Since our perimeter defenders get beat, it seems that rim protection is badly needed. Hopefully Akok helps with that, but we badly need more athletic rim protection from the 4/5 .
Gosh. Imagine no injuries in 15/16 when this all went wrong. We probably still can Ollie last year but the roster and current state of competition may be better.
 
Every bit of empirical evidence says this team is better than last years beyond both being 10-8.

I get being mad that we lost to USF and Tulsa, but last year we went to OT against Columbia and Stony Brook. This year we beat those type of teams by 20-30. We were 171st in ORtg and 178th in DRtg last year. We’re 96th in both this year. If you can’t look beyond the 10-8 record then you’re just trying to complain. If they keep on improving L’s will become W’s in due time.
Thanks stats. Our schedule is much easier to though right. Numbers don’t lie though.
 
Thanks stats. Our schedule is much easier to though right. Numbers don’t lie though.

Schedule has been tougher this year to this point.
 
I think its just The Boneyard who can take credit for this.

Very little friendship here
50 posts worth of Friendship, and counting.

But seriously, this board vacilates between surprising humanity, valuable counsel, genuine fellowship, and great laughs... and regular meetings of circular firing squads.

We're not at our best when the university, the athletic department, the coaches, and/or players aren't at their best.

It's hard for us to improve ourselves.
 
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People weren't ready for a rebuild. We have a terrible fan base that doesn't know anything about sports.

This fan base lost all patience under Ollie’s last few years. If anyone thought hiring Hurley was an instant fix, they’re delusional. Give the man time to rebuild this train wreck of a program
 
We need an impact big in the worst way. That is the only way this program will be turned around.
Need to get that in next year's recruiting class.
 
Yeah he probably would have thrown them in a zone again because he didn't want to spend time teaching man to man defense anymore. I'd rather we take our lumps now than when Hurley has a roster full of his guys.[/QUOTE'
We had 1 ball handler who had to play the entire game last year and worse defensive players. Ollie was a man to man guy but zone was out of necessity not choice. Hurley has more options and we are better this year not only with talent on the floor but intensity.
 
I wish Larrier were here. I’d love to watch him in Tulsa, Wyoming stare at his teammates trying to figure out where it all went so wrong.

If he's in Tulsa Wyoming, he probably wouldn't be staring at his teammates, but staring at a map wondering why he took a flight to the wrong state.
 
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I suggest you all take a look at the preseason prediction thread.

There werent many people who didnt have us over 20 wins.

Almost none.

I was one of them who had us well under 20. Go look it up. So none of this has anything to do with my expectations for this season.


My expectations were simply to get better. Its a low bar. We are having trouble crossing it.

And yes this group of players is obviously just not up to the task unfortunately. But everyone believed in the Hurley magic bullet and it aint there and are now walking it back.

Count me as the under too. I was 18-20. With 20 being a very successful season.
 
Our problems are the same as they have been for a few years.

It's too hard for us to score, and too easy for the other team to score. A 5 point deficit is insurmountable, a 10 point lead is gone in an instant.
Big game situation stops and big game situation buckets are rare as hens teeth. Then and now.

Let's see where those ratings are at the end of the year.

Lot of bad habits ingrained in these kids. I think it's gonna take some time (and a new class or two coming in) to kick them.
 
The coaching hasn't improved this year either and none of you KO haters can acknowledge that. I do believe long term Hurley is the right choice

I also believe this team has 2 more wins under KO. He would have zoned more and not as many turnovers. Also think he would have made better adjustments in certain games. That doesn't mean he is/ was the man for the job but Hurley hasn't exactly lit the world on fire

How many 20+ pt blowouts did we have last year? How many this one?
 
The team is a lot better than it was last year. Players are trying harder. It's like you KO fan club losers forget how many times the team just flat out quit the last two years.

Absolute looney tunes in this thread right here.
 
If he's in Tulsa Wyoming, he probably wouldn't be staring at his teammates, but staring at a map wondering why he took a flight to the wrong state.

bring back the deleted thread
 
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