What an absolute joke

[Redding Husky]

SMU, not a good example. Deep in the heart of Texas and blah to losing records until this year, but appropiately benefitting now from targeting P5 transfers from the DFW area.

The Pony Express and death penalty may not return, but current students and recent grad relatives joked last week about rumors of recent Mustang largesse. Not that the latter’s not done elsewhere, but SMU’s current 1 year performance does not support citing it with the other AAC school’s longer examples of competence.

(Yes, UConn should further target P5 grad and transfer recruits along with some admissions flexibility).

UConn doesn’t have the same attraction that SMU has for P5 grad and undergrad transfers. Many of the those transfers to SMU are from Dallas (or at least Texas). They went out of state and did that thing. Then they decided they wanted to “come home” for their last year or two of eligibility and play in front of family. Sonny Dykes says he gets about five calls per day from kids who want to transfer to SMU. 5% of all Division 1 FB players are from the Dallas area. That’s a lot of kids.

That’s not going to work for UConn. But there are other things we can do better than what we’ve been doing.

 

[huskymedic]

is there a way to see how much money is allocated to the football programs recruiting or is that not a separate budget item?

The schools are listed in descending order of their football recruiting expenses from last fiscal year. The first column, labeled “Power Five Spending Ranking,” lists where each school’s recruiting spending in 2018 ranked among the Power Five schools examined.

 

[huskysupporter]

The schools are listed in descending order of their football recruiting expenses from last fiscal year. The first column, labeled “Power Five Spending Ranking,” lists where each school’s recruiting spending in 2018 ranked among the Power Five schools examined.

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Awesome thanks so much for this.

 

[UConnDan97]

The schools are listed in descending order of their football recruiting expenses from last fiscal year. The first column, labeled “Power Five Spending Ranking,” lists where each school’s recruiting spending in 2018 ranked among the Power Five schools examined.

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Yeah, but John Greene says...

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

UConn doesn’t have the same attraction that SMU has for P5 grad and undergrad transfers. Many of the those transfers to SMU are from Dallas (or at least Texas). Then they decided they wanted to “come home” for their last year or two ...

Yup, were you intentionally re-confirming my prior reference to SMU targeting transfer players from the DFW area (or Texas)? Or, SMU’s single-current successful year from DFW (and Texas) grad and other P5 transfer recruits returning home not equating to several seasons of Cinci’s, UCF’s and even Memphis’ competence? Or, both facts? Yes, geography is a recruiting advantage for some southern schools. No brainer!

 

[huskymedic]

Awesome thanks so much for this.

% of budget further down in article.

 

[huskysupporter]

% of budget further down in article.

Thanks interesting read this far. Georgia 2.6 mil for recruiting. And Houston’s total recruiting budget for all sports 600,000 and change. Wow.

 

[John Greene]

Yeah, but John Greene says...

did you look at the article? Spending on FB recruiting is near the bottom in both dollars spent and % of total spending. Somehow this translates to 'commitment ' to FB? I would bet that both BB programs spend as much or more on a lot fewer prospects.

 

[huskysupporter]

did you look at the article? Spending on FB recruiting is near the bottom in both dollars spent and % of total spending. Somehow this translates to 'commitment ' to FB? I would bet that both BB programs spend as much or more on a lot fewer prospects.

yeah I definitely don’t read the stats as a commitment to football. How in the world can we spend only 30% of total recruiting on football. That is insanity.

 

[John Greene]

yeah I definitely don’t read the stats as a commitment to football. How in the world can we spend only 30% of total recruiting on football. That is insanity.

Someone is sure to argue that finding 'under the radar ' prospects is cheaper. That or they are spending plenty given the abundance of top talent in and near CT.

By the way is 'under the radar ' just another term for RKG?

 

[huskysupporter]

Someone is sure to argue that finding 'under the radar ' prospects is cheaper. That or they are spending plenty given the abundance of top talent in and near CT.

By the way is 'under the radar ' just another term for RKG?

We need to spend more money on recruiting while at the same time focusing the reach of recruiting at this time. establish relationships in areas that aren’t ridiculously far away like Texas. Florida, Georgia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, New England - that’s where focus (time and $$$) needs to be. Work those areas, hire coaches with ties to those areas, hire a recruiting coordinator who understands this.

 

[John Greene]

We need to spend more money on recruiting while at the same time focusing the reach of recruiting at this time. establish relationships in areas that aren’t ridiculously far away like Texas. Florida, Georgia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, New England - that’s where focus (time and $$$) needs to be. Work those areas, hire coaches with ties to those areas, hire a recruiting coordinator who understands this.

At least we have a lock on Quebec.

Sometimes even I can't stand my increased sarcasm on this.

 

[huskysupporter]

At least we have a lock on Quebec.

Sometimes even I can't stand my increased sarcasm on this.

Ha! But I actually forgot Canada.we have gotten some big contributors from our neighbors to the north. Definitely should keep working that pipeline.

 

[huskymedic]

We need to spend more money on recruiting while at the same time focusing the reach of recruiting at this time. establish relationships in areas that aren’t ridiculously far away like Texas. Florida, Georgia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, New England - that’s where focus (time and $$$) needs to be. Work those areas, hire coaches with ties to those areas, hire a recruiting coordinator who understands this.

These are all areas we actively recruit now (maybe not as extensively Ohio as the other states you list). This group has focused more on the Carolinas, than Ohio it seems.

 

[huskysupporter]

These are all areas we actively recruit now (maybe not as extensively Ohio as the other states you list). This group has focused more on the Carolinas, than Ohio it seems.

Which is good, just feel all resources should be focused on these areas. Texas and that area is just not a good use of resources. Your work on the recruiting board is the best thing going on this site. Many thanks.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

That’s a good one. I don’t care about AD expenditures - I care about football expenditures overall. Our salary pool is pitiful.

Good one on the no patience. No one has any patience - the football program has been horrid for 10 years. What’s another 20, amirite?

Every single thing the administration and AD has done (or more appropriately not done), points to a total lack of commitment to a successful football program.

lack of patience, that’s a good one.

If the admin wants to save money, just hire the entire staff of most successful FCS problem that we can get. Anything is better than the outdated coaching staff we got now. We need a coaching staff with more modern offense and defense period.

 

[UConnDan97]

did you look at the article? Spending on FB recruiting is near the bottom in both dollars spent and % of total spending. Somehow this translates to 'commitment ' to FB? I would bet that both BB programs spend as much or more on a lot fewer prospects.

I love it. Somehow, spending more than Wisconsin on recruiting and almost twice as much as Houston translates to you as "no commitment to FB".

Whatever, bro. I guess you continue to do you...

 

[BlueDogs]

We had a team go undefeated two years in a row and they didn't get a sniff of the playoffs. We had to invent a national championship share for them.

The football by and large is good quality. But it doesn't matter because the nation doesn't care about these teams. So we're losing games and losing money. We won't regret leaving the conference. We can only regret not getting in to the other football conferences...

UConnDan - they had 70,000 at the Memphis SMU game. The AAC has 3 top 25 teams. UCF finished in the top 10 two years straight. The conference is more relevant every year that passes. Maybe we don’t fit as a matter of regional interest, but the AAC has growing national interest. The football is too good to ignore. I would have never suspected it would progress the way it has. We just managed to stink up the joint and blow it in a conference we should have dominated in basketball and football. The proof is Cincinnati and Temple seem to so just fine.

 

[Slasher]

UConnDan - they had 70,000 at the Memphis SMU game. The AAC has 3 top 25 teams. UCF finished in the top 10 two years straight. The conference is more relevant every year that passes. Maybe we don’t fit as a matter of regional interest, but the AAC has growing national interest. The football is too good to ignore. I would have never suspected it would progress the way it has. We just managed to stink up the joint and blow it in a conference we should have dominated in basketball and football. The proof is Cincinnati and Temple seem to so just fine.

Four top 25 teams now actually... and UCF #26

 

[UConnDan97]

UConnDan - they had 70,000 at the Memphis SMU game. The AAC has 3 top 25 teams. UCF finished in the top 10 two years straight. The conference is more relevant every year that passes. Maybe we don’t fit as a matter of regional interest, but the AAC has growing national interest. The football is too good to ignore. I would have never suspected it would progress the way it has. We just managed to stink up the joint and blow it in a conference we should have dominated in basketball and football. The proof is Cincinnati and Temple seem to so just fine.

Unfortunately, it CAN be ignored. Unfortunately, you're dead wrong. And UCF proved it. If you can win more than 25 games in a row and don't play in the playoffs, you're irrelevant. You're ignored...

 

[John Greene]

I love it. Somehow, spending more than Wisconsin on recruiting and almost twice as much as Houston translates to you as "no commitment to FB".

Whatever, bro. I guess you continue to do you...

Don't think I ever said no commitment. The commitment is weak at best. Which longer term will be negative for the UConn athletic department. You may not agree but that does not change the facts. FB has been relegated to third place.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

UConn sponsors 22 teams. Thats 50% more than many of the schools in the B12 which carry the D1 miniumum of 7 mens and womens teams or 6 mens and 8 womens teams. Some of those extra teams we carry have large memberships which need to be recruited. A Cincinatti carries 5 less teams than we do. Houston has only six mens sports.

 

[jdb50]

UConn sponsors 22 teams. Thats 50% more than many of the schools in the B12 which carry the D1 miniumum of 7 mens and womens teams or 6 mens and 8 womens teams. Some of those extra teams we carry have large memberships which need to be recruited. A Cincinatti carries 5 less teams than we do. Houston has only six mens sports.

With the lack of revenue in the AD why is this so? Someone needs to get an answer from AD Dave and the President.

 

[Bulldog]

Well FSU just fired Willie Taggert with a buyout of 17M. I no we can’t afford that kind of money, but 1M! Come on!

 

[Husky25]

Except for the numerous recent contracts signed with multiple schools that extend out for the next 7 - 8 years. But you know... why let data enter your conclusion...

Not the only BY board on which this happen.

 

[DefCONNOne]

Except for the numerous recent contracts signed with multiple schools that extend out for the next 7 - 8 years. But you know... why let data enter your conclusion...

Your arrogant condescension is duly noted.

Any other "winning" arguments you wish to present?

 

[Husky25]

I claim no inside information and have not spoken with anyone in Storrs. Just based on public information one is hard pressed to come to any conclusion other than the possible sacrifice of FB was an acceptable risk to protect M&WBB.

Based on public information, an alternate reasonable conclusion (more reasonable if one were to ask me) is that UConn believes their brand is worth more than a $6.94M AAV for 12 years and less exposure while forcing their fans to pay even more for the privileged to view content they historically received for free.

The ten games already scheduled for what was supposed to be a dumpster fire of a season (2020) has already generated more enthusiasm than yet another season in the AAC. If SNY plays ball as I expect them to, UConn can approach $10M AAV, when cost savings and media revenues are all considered. The cap for current AAC programs is $6.94M.

 

[John Greene]

Based on public information, an alternate reasonable conclusion (more reasonable if one were to ask me) is that UConn believes their brand is worth more than a $6.94M AAV for 12 years and less exposure while forcing their fans to pay even more for the privileged to view content they historically received for free.

The ten games already scheduled for what was supposed to be a dumpster fire of a season (2020) has already generated more enthusiasm than yet another season in the AAC. If SNY plays ball as I expect them to, UConn can approach $10M AAV, when cost savings and media revenues are all considered. The cap for current AAC programs is $6.94M.

Hopefully you are correct. I remain skeptical until I see some real information on media contracts.

 

[gtcam]

Based on public information, an alternate reasonable conclusion (more reasonable if one were to ask me) is that UConn believes their brand is worth more than a $6.94M AAV for 12 years and less exposure while forcing their fans to pay even more for the privileged to view content they historically received for free.

The ten games already scheduled for what was supposed to be a dumpster fire of a season (2020) has already generated more enthusiasm than yet another season in the AAC. If SNY plays ball as I expect them to, UConn can approach $10M AAV, when cost savings and media revenues are all considered. The cap for current AAC programs is $6.94M.

I am more excited about next years schedule than many in the past 6 years
Overall, It is more varied and contains interesting teams - not that the home schedule for an indy team is going to blow anyones sock off
Joining the NBE is a punch in the groin for football but somehow RE and subsequent coaches have to make it work - they will get no help from the administration
It can't really hurt recruiting because there are attractive games in the horizon

 

[Slasher]

Based on public information, an alternate reasonable conclusion (more reasonable if one were to ask me) is that UConn believes their brand is worth more than a $6.94M AAV for 12 years and less exposure while forcing their fans to pay even more for the privileged to view content they historically received for free.

The ten games already scheduled for what was supposed to be a dumpster fire of a season (2020) has already generated more enthusiasm than yet another season in the AAC. If SNY plays ball as I expect them to, UConn can approach $10M AAV, when cost savings and media revenues are all considered. The cap for current AAC programs is $6.94M.

This is a simplistic view of things. Don't forget about lost playoff and bowl money as well. The AAC is "capped" at media revenue, but also now they get to divide UConn's share too.