What an absolute joke

[BlueDogs]

Don't know if ESPN will go quietly into that good night and just let 11 programs get $700k more than they originally agreed.

No G5 team will ever make the 4 team playoff. They will probaby get thrown a bone IF it goes to 8 teams, but will always play #1 in the 1st round.

Bowl alliances can be made. Liberty, Army, and BYU all have them. I think NMSU does as well. Be that as it may, how about we cross that bridge when UConn achieves eligibility and is passed over. Also, when they do go to a bowl, they won't have to split the payout with the conference.

No G5 team will ever make the playoff, right or wrong, and therein lies the continuing problem for college football. The BSU- Oklahoma Fiesta Bowl (BSU finished undefeated at 5th with 1 1st place vote) was probably the greatest CFB game ever played. Meanwhile 2 teams with 2 losses and two teams with one loss finished ahead. Until there are 8 teams with at least 1 G5 team eligible it’s a riggged, closed system fundamentally at odds with the what fans enjoy... the Cinderella ... the belief that against all odds there’s always a shot.

 

[Slasher]

Don't know if ESPN will go quietly into that good night and just let 11 programs get $700k more than they originally agreed.

No G5 team will ever make the 4 team playoff. They will probaby get thrown a bone IF it goes to 8 teams, but will always play #1 in the 1st round.

Bowl alliances can be made. Liberty, Army, and BYU all have them. I think NMSU does as well. Be that as it may, how about we cross that bridge when UConn achieves eligibility and is passed over. Also, when they do go to a bowl, they won't have to split the payout with the conference.

It doesn't matter whether a G5 team makes the playoff. The conferences still get money from the playoff. CFP Revenue Distribution Policies

Also the Group of 5 representative in the NY6 bowl gets $2.43M for their conference. That doesn't include any of the other bowl payouts that the conference shares. The AAC will have 7 or 8 bowl eligible teams this year.

Yes, UConn will be better off when they make a bowl game (assuming it's a fairly decent one.) But in the years they don't they lose that guaranteed revenue stream. ESPN may try to renegotiate, but you have to remember most of the value of the TV contract is football.

 

[AAC Guru]

It doesn't matter whether a G5 team makes the playoff. The conferences still get money from the playoff. CFP Revenue Distribution Policies

Also the Group of 5 representative in the NY6 bowl gets $2.43M for their conference. That doesn't include any of the other bowl payouts that the conference shares. The AAC will have 7 or 8 bowl eligible teams this year.

Yes, UConn will be better off when they make a bowl game (assuming it's a fairly decent one.) But in the years they don't they lose that guaranteed revenue stream. ESPN may try to renegotiate, but you have to remember most of the value of the TV contract is football.

There’s big payouts, but don’t programs have to commit to buying sizable blocks of tickets? Didn’t UConn take a loss in its fiesta bowl appearance?

 

[Husky25]

It doesn't matter whether a G5 team makes the playoff. The conferences still get money from the playoff. CFP Revenue Distribution Policies

Also the Group of 5 representative in the NY6 bowl gets $2.43M for their conference. That doesn't include any of the other bowl payouts that the conference shares. The AAC will have 7 or 8 bowl eligible teams this year.

Yes, UConn will be better off when they make a bowl game (assuming it's a fairly decent one.) But in the years they don't they lose that guaranteed revenue stream. ESPN may try to renegotiate, but you have to remember most of the value of the TV contract is football.

Did you read the link because I don't think it comes close to supporting your point.

Each conference will receive $300,000 for each of its schools when the school's football team meets the NCAA's APR for participation in a post-season football game. Each independent institution will also receive $300,000 when its football team meets that standard.

Presumably, UConn doesn't lose anything here.

Each of the 10 conferences will also receive a base amount. For conferences that have contracts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose, or Sugar Bowl, the base combined with the full academic performance pool will be approximately $66 million for each conference. The five conferences that do not have contacts for their champions to participate in the Orange, Rose or Sugar Bowls will receive approximately $90 million in aggregate (full academic pool plus base), which the conferences will distribute as they choose. Notre Dame will receive a payment of $3.19 million if it meets the APR standard; the other three independents will share $1.56 million.

Rough math actually has UConn "earning" an extra $60k, or staying about even at worst. ($90M/ 5 = 18M / 12 = $1.5M)

A conference will receive $6 million for each team that is selected for the semifinal games. There will be no additional distribution to conferences whose teams qualify for the national championship game. A conference will receive $4 million for each team that plays in a non-playoff bowl under the arrangement.

$4M / 12 = $333K non-guarunteed

Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.43 million to cover expenses for each game.

The way I read it, that $2.43M is not divided among the teams. It's to pay for representative program (at present that is Cinci, but Boise St is 4 behind and arguably has an easier schedule to go.) expenses for their game as well as the cost of attendance for conference and corporate sponsor dignitaries. Plus unsold ticket allotment.

Additionally, certain conferences in the Football Championship Subdivision will receive $2.7 million in aggregate.

Not Applicable.

Other AAC Bowl tie ins (conference share = Total payout per collegefootballpoll dot com / 2):
Birmingham ($825K)
Gasparilla ($567K)
Frisco ($375K)
Military ($1.033M)
Hawaii ($500K)
Boca Raton ($500K)
Cure ($376K)

Also, these are gross payouts before expenses, but if expenses are hypothetically -0- for each team, UConn is sacrificing $348K ($4.176M / 12).

 

[Slasher]

Did you read the link because I don't think it comes close to supporting your point.


Presumably, UConn doesn't lose anything here.


Rough math actually has UConn "earning" an extra $60k, or staying about even at worst. ($90M/ 5 = 18M / 12 = $1.5M)



$4M / 12 = $333K non-guarunteed



The way I read it, that $2.43M is not divided among the teams. It's to pay for representative program (at present that is Cinci, but Boise St is 4 behind and arguably has an easier schedule to go.) expenses for their game as well as the cost of attendance for conference and corporate sponsor dignitaries. Plus unsold ticket allotment.


Not Applicable.

Other AAC Bowl tie ins (conference share = Total payout per collegefootballpoll dot com / 2):
Birmingham ($825K)
Gasparilla ($567K)
Frisco ($375K)
Military ($1.033M)
Hawaii ($500K)
Boca Raton ($500K)
Cure ($376K)

Also, these are gross payouts before expenses, but if expenses are hypothetically -0- for each team, UConn is sacrificing $348K ($4.176M / 12).

That $2.43 absolutely goes to the conference. The AAC gives an extra cut to the team in the bowl (to pay expenses) but the rest is distributed to the conference. The same is true of all the bowl games.

 

[Husky25]

That $2.43 absolutely goes to the conference. The AAC gives an extra cut to the team in the bowl (to pay expenses) but the rest is distributed to the conference. The same is true of all the bowl games.

Now that I re-read it, there is little room for interpretation.

"Each conference whose team participates in a playoff semifinal, Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach Bowl, or in the national championship game will receive $2.43 million to cover expenses for each game."

I never said it didn't go to the conference. The money may go to the participating conferences, but it is not necessarily distributed to the member programs.

 

[John]

Joining the Big East is the best thing they've done in years. Basically the only non-disastrous thing they've done outside of hiring Hurley.

joining the BE was a white flag surrender to ever going P5, it was an admission that we are not at that level.

 

[Husky25]

joining the BE was a white flag surrender to ever going P5, it was an admission that we are not at that level.

With where the dollars are currently, the P5 probably has a better chance of shrinking before it expands, let alone by any team in the AAC. There is not one single program in the country that will bring a sufficient value for P5 content providers to continue shelling out increasing sums of money. They already over-estimated the value of the PAC-12, if only because they are a P5 conference. If the Big XII disintegrates under the weight of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas, the sum of the rest of the conference is barely AAC level, Plus the schools are located in roughly the same territory.

Now take into consideration the pay-for-play, player safety, and increasing alternatives for the public's entertainment dollar and it's plain to see that college football faces significant concerns in the not so distant future.

 

[DoctorWho85]

There’s big payouts, but don’t programs have to commit to buying sizable blocks of tickets? Didn’t UConn take a loss in its fiesta bowl appearance?

UCONN got screwed because it was in the same stadium as the championship game. So people that bought tickets to the big game got tickets to the Fiesta Bowl for free and put them on secondary markets significantly below face value. Forcing both UCONN and Oklahoma to eat the cost. Just Oklahoma had the Big XII help then with the loss

 

[CL82]

If the admin wants to save money, just hire the entire staff of most successful FCS problem that we can get. Anything is better than the outdated coaching staff we got now. We need a coaching staff with more modern offense and defense period.

So you must have been happy with Crocker?

 

[noeynox]

I don't understand how the other schools weren't outraged at being forced behind a paywall to a subscription most of America probably doesn't want. On top of being force to pay for production costs of each game. How is anyone ok with that?

The short answer is that those schools started from a way worst place than us. While we were collecting BCS paychecks, they were getting 100k a year for their TV rights.

 

[Adios]

That win against Rhode Island last season actually saved us from being mentioned amongst the worst football teams because there have been so many winless seasons. I don't think UConn ever had a winless season. We do have that going for ourselves.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

So you must have been happy with Crocker?

Crocker was the wrong guy. UCONN didn't have the players to execute his scheme, but he tried to force it anyway. Good coaches adjust the defense to the talent available.