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Cmon. South Carolina has not been in an incident the entire year, but LSU has had numerous dust ups this year, Texas A&M comes to mind, and Auburn and the ongoing "were the baddest b%$^%s rhetoric all year has been their calling card and anyone that has watched the game knows it. If you do not care for South Carolina, it is because the win. They have no player that has been branded a trash talker or dirty, but they will not let themselves get abused by anyone and that is the slight difference between this team and last years. Dawn was very respectful to the game. Just say you don t like her but stop trying to create a narrative that is just not there.
South Carolina had dust ups with UNC and Duke this year at least. Not sure if there were any others this year but it’s definitely not the first.
 
100 percent. That should never happen. IMHO, that AD just made it marginally harder to recruit her replacement, because I'd think twice about the evident (lack of) empathy / human touch of my prospective boss...
Firing Coach Ard and then expecting her to hold a post-game presser - I’m speechless
 
But for a person that gets the crap beat out of her weekly, a shove of another player, who taunts at every turn, and who just threw an elbow at Cardosa’s teammate…..a shove is candy land type stuff. Get a grip people.
Knocking a much smaller player to the ground is hardly "candy land type stuff".

Edwards and Bueckers get beat up constantly. Neither of them has resorted to what Cardoso did.
 
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If this is the case, then it should be easy to name some of them. Who are these great programs that do not tweet out to their fans when they've landed recruits, especially elite ones?
I am specifically saying the head coach at the elite programs since I am specifically speaking about Dawn Staley, the head coach whom we've been discussing this entire time. I don't have the time or tech savy to track every individual and their X accounts from every elite program to know whether those individuals have posted on recruits. I just know that Dawn is the only one of the head coaches either out of obliviousness to how she comes across or a little bit of hubris goes out and lets people know that she's landed a recruit before an announcement has been made by the actual recruit.

The head coaches I have in mind that do not do what Dawn does are ( i may be missing some so forgive me if I do):

1. Tara at Stanford
2. Vick at Texas
3. K Harper at Tennessee
4. Close at UCLA
5. Kim at Baylor
6. Geno at Uconn
7. Muffet when she was at ND
8. McGuff at Ohio State
9. Lisa Bluder at Iowa
10. Wes Moore at NC State
11. Kara Lawson at Duke
 
The icing on the cake happened to the Utah State coach. This is awful


Ikr

I was at the game and it was a complete mismatch as Boise State dominated.


I suspect this decision was baked in. As I watched the game I was thinking of first round games at the big dance during Brianna's 4 years. This was the Gap in talent between the broncos and the Aggies.

I also couldn't help but think of my Sun Devils and the similar gap in talent and program support. I'm not sure how much support Utah state provides their program but with a four-year record a failure I suspect this is not all on the coach.

Just like in Tempe Coach Adair I think is a fine mid major coach but there is zero athletic department support and she's not in a position to recruit the type of athletes necessary to compete in the Big 12. While it's unfortunate the Aggies coach was fired immediately after the final game I wish ASU had taken the same approach. I think ultimately it's better for the program and also the coach.
 
I figured the original poster was referencing UConn. But, outside of them and maybe Stanford, who else?
I was sitting in front of two Stanford fans during the pac-12 final and they spent considerable time in their praise of Tara which is understandable and some really demeaning comments about Geno.

The vitriol was quite vicious and they both agreed they hope Tara continues to coach so Geno can never attain the record. Having an entirely different view of Uconn and Coach Geno it's surprising to hear this kind of negativity. Of course there was no foundation that they shared in their 20-minute diatribe so ultimately I wondered if it was just a matter of jealousy and or an inferiority complex.

One of the two Cards fans claimec that 30 years ago Tara played pick up ball with some of the faculty and he played against her. He said that she was an extremely dirty player. LOL
 
I am specifically saying the head coach at the elite programs since I am specifically speaking about Dawn Staley, the head coach whom we've been discussing this entire time. I don't have the time or tech savy to track every individual and their X accounts from every elite program to know whether those individuals have posted on recruits. I just know that Dawn is the only one of the head coaches either out of obliviousness to how she comes across or a little bit of hubris goes out and lets people know that she's landed a recruit before an announcement has been made by the actual recruit.

The head coaches I have in mind that do not do what Dawn does are ( i may be missing some so forgive me if I do):

1. Tara at Stanford
2. Vick at Texas
3. K Harper at Tennessee
4. Close at UCLA
5. Kim at Baylor
6. Geno at Uconn
7. Muffet when she was at ND
8. McGuff at Ohio State
9. Lisa Bluder at Iowa
10. Wes Moore at NC State
11. Kara Lawson at Duke
So, in other words, Geno, Tara, and Vic--because those other examples are either dated (coaches don't even coach at those institutions anymore) or aren't coaches at elite programs (Tennessee, UCLA, Duke, Ohio State, and Iowa would not be considered elite).
 
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Let’s be serious I’m talking about the great programs and great coaches in America. When you’ve reached the peak and stayed there for a bit act like you’ve been there. Smaller programs have to claw and fight like heck to stay relevant and even more so now with NIL. But for me the majority of great programs do not flaunt their recruiting the direct way that Dawn does.

Like I said everyone is entitled to how they conduct themselves. I just don’t appreciate the way Dawn does it. It’s like if on a street of medium houses, one household strikes it rich, tears down the house builds a McMansion and then broadcasts to the rest of the street like Dave chapelle “I’m rich &$ch”.
If you don't follow Dawn, then you won't see the tweets. Problem solved.
 
Would love to see LSU and UCONN in a 2 and 3 matchup.
As would I. Should be fun! Would be interesting to see/hear the post-game comments from coaches and fans of both teams.
 
The vitriol was quite vicious and they both agreed they hope Tara continues to coach so Geno can never attain the record. Having an entirely different view of Uconn and Coach Geno it's surprising to hear this kind of negativity. Of course there was no foundation that they shared in their 20-minute diatribe so ultimately I wondered if it was just a matter of jealousy and or an inferiority complex.
I don't have a dog in this hunt as a Vanderbilt fan, except that if it keeps Geno from retiring then I hope Tara can coach to age 110.
 
This conversation about Dawn's tweets is worse than my previous HOA meeting where we discussed making changes to the acceptable grass height.

Leaving See Ya GIF by MOODMAN
 
I am specifically saying the head coach at the elite programs since I am specifically speaking about Dawn Staley, the head coach whom we've been discussing this entire time. I don't have the time or tech savy to track every individual and their X accounts from every elite program to know whether those individuals have posted on recruits. I just know that Dawn is the only one of the head coaches either out of obliviousness to how she comes across or a little bit of hubris goes out and lets people know that she's landed a recruit before an announcement has been made by the actual recruit.

The head coaches I have in mind that do not do what Dawn does are ( i may be missing some so forgive me if I do):

1. Tara at Stanford
2. Vick at Texas
3. K Harper at Tennessee
4. Close at UCLA
5. Kim at Baylor
6. Geno at Uconn
7. Muffet when she was at ND
8. McGuff at Ohio State
9. Lisa Bluder at Iowa
10. Wes Moore at NC State
11. Kara Lawson at Duke
You can remove Kellie Harper at Tennessee from that list because she does it too.
 
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Would love to see LSU and UCONN in a 2 and 3 matchup.
Me, too, especially after LSU loses a few more players to injury. Sure, let's match them up minus Reese FJ and Rosario. That'd be a game to see.
 
I was sitting in front of two Stanford fans during the pac-12 final and they spent considerable time in their praise of Tara which is understandable and some really demeaning comments about Geno.

The vitriol was quite vicious and they both agreed they hope Tara continues to coach so Geno can never attain the record. Having an entirely different view of Uconn and Coach Geno it's surprising to hear this kind of negativity. Of course there was no foundation that they shared in their 20-minute diatribe so ultimately I wondered if it was just a matter of jealousy and or an inferiority complex.

One of the two Cards fans claimec that 30 years ago Tara played pick up ball with some of the faculty and he played against her. He said that she was an extremely dirty player. LOL
I’m not aware of any issues between the coaches. They aren’t best buddies but I always thought they had a mutually respectful relationship. I’ve never heard the pick-up game story but who knows? Geno is fairly mellow these days but could be spicy in his youth.

There was an issue with UConn fans toward Tara, though. In the 1996 Olympics, when Tara was head coach, USA Basketball forced Rebecca Lobo, who is revered by UConn fans, onto Tara’s Olympic team apparently against Tara’s wishes. Rebecca saw only a few minutes in the games, usually mop up minutes, even in the exhibition game vs UConn in Connecticut when the crowd was chanting Becca’s name. Husky fans were incensed and 30 years later you’ll still hear fans with a grudge against Tara for the “slight”. We had some rip-roaring arguments with Stanford fans on the Boneyard back then, there may have been booing when the teams played. Maybe there’s some holdover, I dunno
 
I’m not aware of any issues between the coaches. They aren’t best buddies but I always thought they had a mutually respectful relationship. I’ve never heard the pick-up game story but who knows? Geno is fairly mellow these days but could be spicy in his youth.

There was an issue with UConn fans toward Tara, though. In the 1996 Olympics, when Tara was head coach, USA Basketball forced Rebecca Lobo, who is revered by UConn fans, onto Tara’s Olympic team apparently against Tara’s wishes. Rebecca saw only a few minutes in the games, usually mop up minutes, even in the exhibition game vs UConn when the crowd was chanting Becca’s name. Husky fans were incensed and 30 years later you’ll still hear fans with a grudge against Tara for the “slight”. We had some rip-roaring arguments with Stanford fans on the Boneyard back then, there may have been booing when the teams played. Maybe there’s some holdover, I dunno
There unfortunately does seem to be some residual bitterness from many of our "old-timer" fans towards Geno. I lived in CT at the exact same time I started becoming a big Stanford WBB fan (I only followed our men's team when I was on campus). As a result, I developed my Stanford fandom and Geno appreciation simultaneously, and maybe for that reason I'm not seeing the basis for the grudge holding. And I'm sure some of it is envy after 11 championships.

For me personally, I always want to see Good People winning in the end, and it's really, really hard to think of better people than Lobo, Bird, Maya, Stewie, Pheesa, Bueckers and Fudd. So even if I'm always going to root for Stanford over UConn, I'm never going to be unhappy seeing class acts like the aforementioned take home championships. (and contrast that to, ahem, this weekend's WWE showcase...)
 
I was sitting in front of two Stanford fans during the pac-12 final and they spent considerable time in their praise of Tara which is understandable and some really demeaning comments about Geno.

The vitriol was quite vicious and they both agreed they hope Tara continues to coach so Geno can never attain the record. Having an entirely different view of Uconn and Coach Geno it's surprising to hear this kind of negativity. Of course there was no foundation that they shared in their 20-minute diatribe so ultimately I wondered if it was just a matter of jealousy and or an inferiority complex.

One of the two Cards fans claimec that 30 years ago Tara played pick up ball with some of the faculty and he played against her. He said that she was an extremely dirty player. LOL
Not surprised at all. While at the final four a few years ago in Minneapolis, I was sitting in the poolside whirlpool with a handful of women who were big time Stanford and Tara fans. One was a former US Olympian in Handball from the early 80's and another was a longtime high school PE teacher and coach from Idaho. Everyone was there for the final four, and big time WCBB fans. Well. the absolute hate and despise for Geno was overwhelming and caught me totally off guard. The more we spoke, the more I realized that they were more "men haters" thank a specific Geno hater. I think your experience may also be that case.
 
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Let's be honest, having bitter rivals is what makes sports fun and it drives attendance and TV viewership. I hate the color orange simply because it's Clemson's primary color and I wouldn't be caught dead wearing it. I've seen a lot of bitterness from UCONN fans towards Tennessee and ND, Gamecock fans towards various teams in the SEC and Clemson and the same from other schools.
 
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I’m not aware of any issues between the coaches. They aren’t best buddies but I always thought they had a mutually respectful relationship. I’ve never heard the pick-up game story but who knows? Geno is fairly mellow these days but could be spicy in his youth.

There was an issue with UConn fans toward Tara, though. In the 1996 Olympics, when Tara was head coach, USA Basketball forced Rebecca Lobo, who is revered by UConn fans, onto Tara’s Olympic team apparently against Tara’s wishes. Rebecca saw only a few minutes in the games, usually mop up minutes, even in the exhibition game vs UConn in Connecticut when the crowd was chanting Becca’s name. Husky fans were incensed and 30 years later you’ll still hear fans with a grudge against Tara for the “slight”. We had some rip-roaring arguments with Stanford fans on the Boneyard back then, there may have been booing when the teams played. Maybe there’s some holdover, I dunno
That’s not speaking for many UConn fans, whose beef with VanDerveer stems from her saying she had six Sales before we beat them by 27 points in the FF, and then predicted Tennessee would beat us in the final after we just thrashed them. Her disdain was so great she actually disparaged her own team if you follow the logic. Mind you this occurred before the Olympics.

Though unlike McGraw she eventually cooled off in her disdain.
 
I’m not aware of any issues between the coaches. They aren’t best buddies but I always thought they had a mutually respectful relationship. I’ve never heard the pick-up game story but who knows? Geno is fairly mellow these days but could be spicy in his youth.

There was an issue with UConn fans toward Tara, though. In the 1996 Olympics, when Tara was head coach, USA Basketball forced Rebecca Lobo, who is revered by UConn fans, onto Tara’s Olympic team apparently against Tara’s wishes. Rebecca saw only a few minutes in the games, usually mop up minutes, even in the exhibition game vs UConn in Connecticut when the crowd was chanting Becca’s name. Husky fans were incensed and 30 years later you’ll still hear fans with a grudge against Tara for the “slight”. We had some rip-roaring arguments with Stanford fans on the Boneyard back then, there may have been booing when the teams played. Maybe there’s some holdover, I dunno
As I’ve said in other threads I’ve been a Big East fan as long as I can remember and was becoming a UConn fan before moving to California. The first women’s college basketball game I saw in person was actually UConn vs. Western Kentucky in Maples in November 1996. I had courtside seats under the basket near UConn’s bench in San Jose November 1998 and when I spilled my soda, a UConn team manager was nice enough to toss a towel over to me.

As a New Yorker I have tons of respect for what Geno has done at UConn, though at times he has annoyed me. But I get along much better with people like Geno than people who aren’t as up front with what is on their mind.

Geno and Tara both had their sharp elbows 20-30 years ago, but have mellowed out a lot over the years. Fanatics need to mellow out and respect both coaches for what they have accomplished for women’s sports, and stop dwelling on past slights, real and imagined, between coaches and teams.

I don’t believe it, but I’m sure there are Stanford fanatics who believe Nneka Ogwumike not making the Tokyo Olympic Team was revenge for Tara’s treatment of Rebecca Lobo in 1996. Let’s all grow up and enjoy whatever years these two coaching giants have left coaching.
 
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I've never seen any of those players do anything close to what Cardoso did today.

And it's been even longer -- 3 years -- since Cardoso arrived in Columbia. Who does her behavior reflect on?
Lol….so you missed the first half when Reese tried to take her head off with an intentional elbow. Probably need to watch some more wbb.
 
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