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As much as I feel bad about Evina personally, I also think this greatly complicates our recruitment.

By pushing her back to 2021, 2022 I worry that this will make it harder to recruit Azzi since a three guard rotation of CW (Sr) , Paige (Sophmore) and Evina(Sr) would be pretty firmly established and Azzi would most likely be coming off the bench her freshman year. For those who say Evina would have left for the WNBA, she needs 2 years to establish herself at a level where she can go pro imho.

And from Evina's point of view, I doubt she would beat out Paige coming in at the same time so Evina would probably be the third guard

If she had 2020 to establish herself in the system and excel, I think in 2021, she would have been the 2nd guard with Paige coming in off the bench (significant minutes of course) which I think Paige would have no issue with psychologically and Evina would have the experience to make a push for top status and strong potential for the WNBA

I would love some one to tell me I am dead wrong.
 
The more attention this gets on social media the better off Westbrook is! You would have to think that as dumb as the NCAA is, they are smart enough to know when they are going to get eviscerated in the court of public opinion. With all the attention the "pay for likeness" argument is generating, the last thing the NCAA wants/needs is another black eye.
 
eebmg said:
As much as I feel bad about Evina personally, I also think this greatly complicates our recruitment.

By pushing her back to 2021, 2022 I worry that this will make it harder to recruit Azzi since a three guard rotation of CW (Sr) , Paige (Sophmore) and Evina(Sr) would be pretty firmly established and Azzi would most likely be coming off the bench her freshman year. For those who say Evina would have left for the WNBA, she needs 2 years to establish herself at a level where she can go pro imho.

And from Evina's point of view, I doubt she would beat out Paige coming in at the same time so Evina would probably be the third guard

If she had 2020 to establish herself in the system and excel, I think in 2021, she would have been the 2nd guard with Paige coming in off the bench (significant minutes of course) which I think Paige would have no issue with psychologically and Evina would have the experience to make a push for top status and strong potential for the WNBA

I would love some one to tell me I am dead wrong.
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You are dead wrong!
 
eebmg said:
As much as I feel bad about Evina personally, I also think this greatly complicates our recruitment.

By pushing her back to 2021, 2022 I worry that this will make it harder to recruit Azzi since a three guard rotation of CW (Sr) , Paige (Sophmore) and Evina(Sr) would be pretty firmly established and Azzi would most likely be coming off the bench. For those who say Evina would have left for the WNBA, she needs 2 years to establish herself at a level where she can go pro imho.

And from Evina's point of view, I doubt she would beat out Paige coming in at the same time so Evina would probably be the third guard

If she had 2020 to establish herself in the system and excel, I think in 2021, she would have been the 2nd guard with Paige coming in off the bench (significant minutes of course) and Evina would have the experience to make a push for top status and strong potential

I would love some one to tell me I am dead wrong.
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I agree but the fat lady hasn't sung yet. 1) There is an appeal pending 2) Evina still has an option to turn pro this spring 3) There was always a slight possibility that Evina might still be on the roster with Azzi.
There are alot of angry people on the BY, I would just like to remind them that is was public pressure via social media that caused Kansas State and the NCAA to reverse itself and make Leticia Romero immediate available for FSU. If I understand correctly we have until Tuesday to be heard.


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oldude said:
Why? If we’ve seen anything from the NCAA relative to waiver requests it is that no one knows what to expect. While I certainly don’t know the details of Evina’s waiver request, clearly Geno and Dick Benedict didn’t expect this decision.
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Just because I'd rather be pleasantly surprised like Shepard than disappointed because I expected the NCAA to do anything that made sense.
 
eebmg said:
As much as I feel bad about Evina personally, I also think this greatly complicates our recruitment.

By pushing her back to 2021, 2022 I worry that this will make it harder to recruit Azzi since a three guard rotation of CW (Sr) , Paige (Sophmore) and Evina(Sr) would be pretty firmly established and Azzi would most likely be coming off the bench her freshman year. For those who say Evina would have left for the WNBA, she needs 2 years to establish herself at a level where she can go pro imho.

And from Evina's point of view, I doubt she would beat out Paige coming in at the same time so Evina would probably be the third guard

If she had 2020 to establish herself in the system and excel, I think in 2021, she would have been the 2nd guard with Paige coming in off the bench (significant minutes of course) which I think Paige would have no issue with psychologically and Evina would have the experience to make a push for top status and strong potential for the WNBA

I would love some one to tell me I am dead wrong.
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I view this a little differently. I believe a healthy Evina would have earned the starting wing spot this year over Ania and/or Aubrey. If she is forced to sit out this season, Ania and Aubrey will have a distinct advantage with one of them, likely Ania, earning the starting spot.

Next year, 4 starters return with one open spot at pg. While Evina played some pg at TN, she is far more effective as a 2 or 3 imo. I believe Paige starts at pg next season no matter who’s on the team. That would then relegate Evina to a 6th or 7th man role unless she can beat out Ania, Aubrey and 2 talented freshmen as the starting wing.
 
Well, that sucks. But, like others I think there could be a silver lining to this as it will allow Evina to have an opportunity to fully recover from her surgery without the pressure of having to play high level basketball while in pain.
 
eebmg said:
As much as I feel bad about Evina personally, I also think this greatly complicates our recruitment.

By pushing her back to 2021, 2022 I worry that this will make it harder to recruit Azzi since a three guard rotation of CW (Sr) , Paige (Sophmore) and Evina(Sr) would be pretty firmly established and Azzi would most likely be coming off the bench her freshman year. For those who say Evina would have left for the WNBA, she needs 2 years to establish herself at a level where she can go pro imho.

And from Evina's point of view, I doubt she would beat out Paige coming in at the same time so Evina would probably be the third guard

If she had 2020 to establish herself in the system and excel, I think in 2021, she would have been the 2nd guard with Paige coming in off the bench (significant minutes of course) which I think Paige would have no issue with psychologically and Evina would have the experience to make a push for top status and strong potential for the WNBA

I would love some one to tell me I am dead wrong.
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If Makurat is as good as we’re hearing, and I think she will be, she’ll contend for a position as well.
 
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VAMike23 said:
A bit of Orange intrigue here ....

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HOT DAMN!! Surprise, surprise, surprise U Tenn didn't provide accurate information on Westbook.
I'm one who praised U Tenn and Jolly for being decent human beings. All those that said I was an idiot--I now accept your assessment. The information we read, as minimal as it may have been indicated she was living in a hostile atmosphere with UT, players, Fans, who knows maybe coaches and Sports Dept. If that isn't an EEO complaint and reason for transfer without delay---what did ND give on Shepherd??? --
 
GreatValue said:
If Jay Bilas is making a statement about this then I think there's a good chance that Evina is granted a waiver on appeal. I feel sorry for her & other recruits that have to go through this long drawn out process.
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Jay Bilas, in addition to being an astute analyst, is a practicing attorney with a Duke Law degree. I'm sure he is more competent on these issues than the NCAA folks.
 
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Sluconn Husky said:
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I read this to my wife an she said: "I knew Geno would come out and defend her. She has RIGHTs Too! They don't OWN us. "
Apparently the NCAA thinks they do.
I don't think any decisions would actually hurt UConn with the talent on board now. But EVINA WESTBROOK deserves caring and proper treatment from and organization whose function is to PROTECT PLAYERS.
I question the need for the NCAA if all they do is create problems, wave a magic wand for those who cheat, and not see how they are damaging kids. Fairness and equal treatment isn't in the REAL world, but in the field of Kids sports it should be first and foremost.
Who needs them. A group of decent people could set up post season games and throw the NCAA where it belongs in the dung heap. Yea, I'm not pleased with this p poor decision. Again, this isn't about UConn it's about EVINA.
 
Hopefully, there is something going on here. Dick Benedict’s written comments, Geno’s on-air comments and perhaps Jay Bilas comments on social media may be a coordinated effort by UConn to pressure the NCAA to reverse their initial decision on appeal. Others may know better, but I cannot remember such a high profile group of individuals going after the NCAA on a waiver request between the initial decision and the appeal.

I know there are many BY’ers that believe the NCAA has it in for UConn. I don’t know about that, but I’m certain that the NCAA is extremely sensitive about their image. I don’t think they want the greatest coach in the history of WBB taking shots at them. Nor do they want a well respected media personality like Jay Bilas loudly pointing out their hypocrisy.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Magy Cannon said:
65-75 percent
In reality, waiver appeals continue to be granted at the same rate as they have recent years -- approximately 65-75 percent are granted.May 15, 2019
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Thanks Magy. I'm more than a bit angered by the decision and slowness. With an Organization pulling in the bucks reported to have been taken in they could staff better. All decisions do not need top brass to view until the end process if then. Atypically they are very difficult, difficult, not so easy, easy/ Pigeon hole them. So, in my less than informed decision: There is no excuse for this kind of last minute decision. If this were a real business the CEO should be fired. No disrespect to you Magy, I respect all you post.
This is NOT about UCONN, for me, Uconn will play as well with or without her the talent is there. This about what is apparently fair and not putting a kid in limbo--considering the bad situation she departed to come to Uconn.
 
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oldude said:
Hopefully, there is something going on here. Dick Benedict’s written comments, Geno’s on-air comments and perhaps Jay Bilas comments on social media may be a coordinated effort by UConn to pressure the NCAA to reverse their initial decision on appeal. Others may know better, but I cannot remember such a high profile group of individuals going after the NCAA on a waiver request between the initial decision and the appeal.

I know there are many BY’ers that believe the NCAA has it in for UConn. I don’t know about that, but I’m certain that the NCAA is extremely sensitive about their image. I don’t think they want the greatest coach in the history of WBB taking shots at them. Nor do they want a well respected media personality like Jay Bilas loudly pointing out their hypocrisy.

Just my 2 cents.
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Good points all.
 
Westbrook was not made available for comment after the announcement was made public, but Auriemma said he did talk to her.

“We let her know about it, and obviously she is disappointed,” Auriemma said. “But if we get our appeal in by Tuesday, we will know by Wednesday.” (UConn said in a statement Friday evening that the appeal is expected to be ruled on in one week after it is filed).

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“Unfortunate the information that this committee got from some people at Tennessee wasn’t really accurate,” Auriemma said. “I don’t think there is anything spiteful coming from Tennessee. No. No. I just think that they could have been a little more helpful, but they chose not to be.”


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UConn gets bad news from NCAA on women’s hoop player

STORRS – Speaking in a disappointed, slightly angry but measured tone, UConn women’s basketball coach Geno Auriemma announced Friday the school was informed by the NCAA that transfer student Evina …
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New ESPN article about the effect of Westbrook's waiver denial on UCONN this season. It doesn't go into the waiver process or details, instead focusing on what she would have brought to our team. Not the greatest article, but not bad, either. Let's hope it's all moot on appeal!
www.espn.com

With Evina Westbrook waiver denied by NCAA, what's next for UConn?

Evina Westbrook would have given the Huskies another scorer and ball handler, and helped them better overcome graduating their two leading scorers.
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