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jaydee602 said:
These are the committee members who denied the waiver to Westbrook. No explanation, no spokesperson.

Kristina Minor
Rutgers, New Jersey		Big Ten Conference
Erik Price
Pac-12 Conference		Pac-12 Conference
Stephen Aley
Univ Texas El Paso		Conference USA
Tim S. Parker
Virginia Polytechnic		 Atlantic Coast Conference
Stephen LaPorta
James Madison		Colonial Athletic Association
Jennifer Lawlor
Monmouth University		Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
Meredith Eaker
ASUN Conference		ASUN Conference
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So basically a bunch of WCBB nobodys who hold her future in their hands and totally screw this young student athlete. So sad and unfair.
 
I am disappointed with the decision of the NCAA and sorry for Evina. This is and was a very poor decision. I see the end of the NCAA coming. Decisions like this and the assertion by the individual colleges and leagues to rule their own destinies i. e. paying players, etc. will make the NCAA useless. I see the leagues making their own rules in the future and following a loose confederation of colleges for tournaments and championships.
 
Sad for her! But all is good! Next year going to be special!
 
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choochoo said:
So basically a bunch of WCBB nobodys who hold her future in their hands and totally screw this young student athlete. So sad and unfair.
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Exactly. What are their qualifications? What is their criteria? And they have absolutely ZERO accountability while deciding the future of the student athletes.
 
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The players being denied this year are just reaping the consequences of the NCAA's past irregularities. They pretty much announced early on that they would not be as easy to get a waiver as it has been in the past. This whole thing sounds like they are attempting to present an image of some consistency with respect to compliance with respect to their written roles. I think they may be expecting or have already been targeted for lawsuits. That seems to be the only viable explanation for this sudden stiffening of the rules. Very similar to what the CIF did in California when they were taken to court with respect to transfer and eligibility rulings.
 
On the SEC telecast. they showed Evina many times on the bench and she looked to be in very good spirits and cheering her team on. What a great kid. She is going to focus all her energy on helping her team in practice and getting stronger and healthy.
 
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I don't think Geno should be dropping innuendos if he's not ever allowed to tell the story. That's like Pat Summitt's "Geno knows what he did" business that ended the UConn-Tennessee rivalry a decade ago. In these situations when you're at a dead end, it's best to just take the high road because there is zero to gain by doing otherwise.
 
oldude said:
I'm sure Evina feels terrible right now, and I feel terrible for her. If anything comes out of this, I sincerely hope that the NCAA creates a hard and fast rule on transfers that is no longer open to interpretation. No one should ever have to go through this Stop.
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The NCAA is ONLY thinking of the Good of the child. Children come first with the NcAA. Students however not so much. I said this before and now again: Replace the Ncaa. All organizations are replaced sooner or later, this is a bit too land BUT!!!
 
this certainly doesn't make the Tennessee athletic department look good....................if I were a big time recruit I'd have to think twice if I wanted to go to a school that would not support my transfer if that situation were to arise..............as far as I know Geno never stands in the way of a player leaving and supports the transfer process on the player's behalf regardless of the circumstances
 
Charliebball said:
this certainly doesn't make the Tennessee athletic department look good....................if I were a big time recruit I'd have to think twice if I wanted to go to a school that would not support my transfer if that situation were to arise..............as far as I know Geno never stands in the way of a player leaving and supports the transfer process on the player's behalf regardless of the circumstances
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Scenarios are different.... Player called for the coaches firing, did not get along with some teammates, stuck around and strung the coaches and team along before being forced to make a decision , and transferred to their rival who has demonized and insulted the UT athletic program since the 2000’s. She mentioned wanting to be coached up and have a new start. Sitting out is not new I’m not sure WHY this is such a shock. What’s TN gonna do support someone who used them as a puppet just to jump ship to a rival and then want them to speak out and say they have a toxic environment? Makes no sense. I wish student athletes the best but karma came back around.
 
irsh4242 said:
Wow what utter hogwash. Down with the NCAA. They decide to apply their rules differently from year to year.

Can Notre Dame please hand the Jess Shepherd championship? No way they win without Jess Shepherd.

Also Miss State should hand back their record from last year. No way they perform as good as they did last year without AEH. Also Geno fully supported the AEH transfer and immediate eligibility even though rumors were couldn't follow UCONN "rules". If any whiff comes out that Tenn did something to get in the way of Evina's immediate eligibility then Geno should immediately cancel the series with Tenn.
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It already did. UConn will not cancel the series. But if I’m Geno or the A.D., I certainly would consider it a factor in deciding whether to extend it.
 
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hoopsfan22 said:
You want her to sue because she is being forced to follow the rules she agreed to follow when she accepted an athletic scholarship?
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Well, I suspect he is suggesting that she sue because the decision is appears to be arbitrary and capricious. Similarly situated individuals applying for relief under the same rule should receive similar results. The NCAA is all over the map on these decisions.

Note that I’m not advocating that she litigate, I’m just noting that the posters comment isn’t completely off-base.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
I don't think Geno should be dropping innuendos if he's not ever allowed to tell the story. That's like Pat Summitt's "Geno knows what he did" business that ended the UConn-Tennessee rivalry a decade ago. In these situations when you're at a dead end, it's best to just take the high road because there is zero to gain by doing otherwise.
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Well - too late now!

“Think about this: A kid’s in an environment that’s not necessarily healthy, an environment that, if you knew what the environment was, which I can’t say, you would not want your kid in that environment,” he said. “And the athletic director there knows it..."

Will make for an interesting build-up to the Jan 23 game anyway. I wonder if ESPN will grab onto this, or try to downplay the "unhealthy environment thing...?
 
futuretitles said:
Scenarios are different.... Player called for the coaches firing, did not get along with some teammates, stuck around and strung the coaches and team along before being forced to make a decision , and transferred to their rival who has demonized and insulted the UT athletic program since the 2000’s. She mentioned wanting to be coached up and have a new start. Sitting out is not new I’m not sure WHY this is such a shock. What’s TN gonna do support someone who used them as a puppet just to jump ship to a rival and then want them to speak out and say they have a toxic environment? Makes no sense. I wish student athletes the best but karma came back around.
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So you are advocating punishing Evina because you don’t like UConn? And you for the suggesting that and academic institution should punish a player for her talking about the conditions that exist while she played at the institution?

Interesting take.
 
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j66kicker said:
Well - too late now!

“Think about this: A kid’s in an environment that’s not necessarily healthy, an environment that, if you knew what the environment was, which I can’t say, you would not want your kid in that environment,” he said. “And the athletic director there knows it..."

Will make for an interesting build-up to the Jan 23 game anyway. I wonder if ESPN will grab onto this, or try to downplay the "unhealthy environment thing...?
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Geno is pretty thick skinned, but he has a long memory when it comes to institutional nastiness against one of his players. Fulmer made a mistake here, but it is entirely consistent with what we have seen from Tennessee in the past.
 
Charliebball said:
this certainly doesn't make the Tennessee athletic department look good....................if I were a big time recruit I'd have to think twice if I wanted to go to a school that would not support my transfer if that situation were to arise..............as far as I know Geno never stands in the way of a player leaving and supports the transfer process on the player's behalf regardless of the circumstances
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TN didn't stand in the way and left it open for Evina to transfer to any school she chose. This is unlike UNC where Hatchell, after the transfer of Deshields, blocked certain players from transferring to Tennessee. She allowed them to transfer under certain conditions...not TN, who was on the list of exclusions.

What TN did do was say good luck, where ever you go, but we are not spending any more time and energy on you. Instead, their focus is on the athletes that are currently on a TN scholarship. Not sure about the rest of you, but when I leave one place for another, such as an employer, I'm not looking back and expecting their help with me and my future endeavors other than being a reference about me and my abilities. The ties are severed and I've moved on. That employer has their hands full with the employees that remain there.


Last, the NCAA should not be looking for the former universities to step in and help. Do your job with the information submitted by the athlete and their new university. Stop playing favorites and having so much inconsistency when making the decision. Give specific guidelines that allow for playing right away and stick to it.
 
Justavisitor said:
TN didn't stand in the way and left it open for Evina to transfer to any school she chose. This is unlike UNC where Hatchell, after the transfer of Deshields, blocked certain players from transferring to Tennessee. She allowed them to transfer under certain conditions...not TN, who was on the list of exclusions.

What TN did do was say good luck, where ever you go, but we are not spending any more time and energy on you. Instead, their focus is on the athletes that are currently on a TN scholarship. Not sure about the rest of you, but when I leave one place for another, such as an employer, I'm not looking back and expecting their help with me and my future endeavors other than being a reference about me and my abilities. The ties are severed and I've moved on. That employer has their hands full with the employees that remain there.


Last, the NCAA should not be looking for the former universities to step in and help. Do your job with the information submitted by the athlete and their new university. Stop playing favorites and having so much inconsistency when making the decision. Give specific guidelines that allow for playing right away and stick to it.
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What Tennessee did was say that it doesn't oppose Evina playing right away. What Tennessee didn't do is say that it supported her playing right away. It's petty and small minded. I certainly hope the HS WBB community takes notice of it.
 
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