We're # 1!!!!

[Alydar]

SOS/RPI for top 10 teams is meaningless really - just means their cupcakes were really dreadful. For top ten teams what matters is how they perform against the other top 10 teams (and whether they have played any of them.)

I agree with you but every year I read only about UConn's weak AAC opponents and that it's top 50 wins that matter. It seems like some opinions are massaged around whatever standard best suits the bias of the opinion. And that also applies to the NCAA selection committee.
Even those arguing for top 10 wins show their bias. If a team was ranked 9th in November and is currently No 21 the "top ten opponent" argument is still made. That's why I prefer a flawed but consistent measuring stick like Massey. At least their standard remains constant.

 

[TerpWomenFan]

I see Texas got rewarded with their HUGE win. They are #25 even though they have 4 losses.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

1.UCONN according to AP

Not surprising for the AP. Coaches I'd be more interested in.

 

[triaddukefan]

That’s absolutely not what I meant. I think they would perform better if they are the underdog. Going into the season’s end #1 with undefeated records for the past few final fours, they’ve played not to lose rather than played to win. They are timid and scared and I think being number 1 brings that type or pressure. That 2012 class could handle that with ease. I think if you’re ranked lower going into marquee matchups it makes you play a little more loose like you have nothing to lose. Being number 1 and undefeated I’m not sure that’s something this squad could handle. I’ve been positive all season about UConn Wbb; don’t come for me boo!

Might be a Boneyard first

 

[Waquoit]

That is totally ridiculous! UConn’s SOS on Massey is 2nd and OSU’s is 44th! Do these people really get paid for their work?!

Both teams played DePaul. OSU has a couple of wins versus teams in the lower Top 25. I don't see any for UConn. I think that makes Massey's number suspect.

 

[chrissaran]

UConn shouldn't be number one. Too inconsistent.

 

[PAHuskeyFan]

That is totally ridiculous! UConn’s SOS on Massey is 2nd and OSU’s is 44th! Do these people really get paid for their work?!

They "cherry pick" data to fit their perspective...

 

[Wbbfan1]

Yes, UConn has been inconsistent. However, UConn has played a Far tougher schedule then other teams and maybe that's the reason for the Inconsistency. UConn doesn't have any Teams with a Sub 150 RPI on their OOC Schedule. Based on Eye Test, perhaps UConn shouldn't be #1. However based on Strength of Schedule for all of their OOC Opponents they should be #1. Who's to say that UConn wouldn't have beaten the Ranked teams that Oregon, Oregon St and So. Carolina have beaten.

UConn shouldn't be number one. Too inconsistent.

 

[Alydar]

Both teams played DePaul. OSU has a couple of wins versus teams in the lower Top 25. I don't see any for UConn. I think that makes Massey's number suspect.

Massey uses a team's entire record. It does give added weight to high quality opponents. I think it's revealing that those who, in late February will point to UConn's weak conference, are, at this point in time, ignoring the cupcakes that their P5 teams have played up till now.
All ratings are suspect relative to the standard used.

UConn shouldn't be number one. Too inconsistent.

There is a lot of inconsistency all over top 10. UConn has so far has shown fairly consistent improvement. Any inconsistency has been on a much larger scale, a comparison of this year's performance with past UConn teams. Compare this year's Oregon, Baylor, Oregon St, Louisville, Stanford with the Stewart era UConn teams and you'll see what I mean.

 

[LoTrader]

Bottom line: Parity. UConn will remain #1 through the holiday. On January 10, UConn may not be #1. Don't think it matters. When NCAA playoffs come, there will be little difference between #1 and #2 seeds.

 

[Plebe]

The thread title looks much more distinguished without the all caps. I'm not sure the quadruple exclamation mark was necessary, but I'll take the improvement

 

[mbr33ct]

I love to copy and paste stats from WarrenNolan.com...and even color code them for your viewing enjoyment. Through 10 games UConn has only played at their true home venues 3 times, 6 times away and yesterday's game at the "neutral" arena. The other 9 teams it's almost a 180 flip, most of their games were at home. Looking at the Q1 through Q4, yeah, UConn has not played a top 10 team yet but they also have not played a Q4 team either...that has to be worth something and only one Q3 team in these last ten games. So, what does this all mean, UConn only enjoyed 1 cupcake while the rest in this list feasted on them Q3 and Q4 teams.

 

[Buzzyboy]

For Duke and for Mississippi State, not for UCONN

You're right because UConn has really kicked South Carolina's butt, even when playing in South Carolina ... that could change but up until now, UConn has throttled them ....

 

[Alydar]

Michelle Smith tweeted she's voting Oregon ST #1 due to Oregon ST's better schedule today. Mechelle Voepelle liked it, so I presume she's of the same mindset.

Megan Gauer and Mechelle Voepel liked

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Just putting it out there.
@BeaverWBB
getting my vote for No. 1. Three double-digits wins over ranked teams. Beat DePaul by 21. UConn beat them by 10, for lone win over ranked team. Obviously toughest part of Huskies sked to come. But Beavers have better resume today.

Michelle Smith is from the Left Coast

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Smith shows her bias by conveniently forgetting to mention that OSU won at home while UConn won in Chicago. Don't let truth distract you Michele. And don't worry about using one game to compare teams' schedules. LOL

As far as the ESPN cartel, they went all in on the PAC12 around Halloween and they'll defend themselves as expected. The one thing they haven't expected has been the speed at which UConn has improved. Surprises me too.

 

[Buzzyboy]

I love to copy and paste stats from WarrenNolan.com...and even color code them for your viewing enjoyment. Through 10 games UConn has only played at their true home venues 3 times, 6 times away and yesterday's game at the "neutral" arena. The other 9 teams it's almost a 180 flip, most of their games were at home. Looking at the Q1 through Q4, yeah, UConn has not played a top 10 team yet but they also have not played a Q4 team either...that has to be worth something and only one Q3 team in these last ten games. So, what does this all mean, UConn only enjoyed 1 cupcake while the rest in this list feasted on them Q3 and Q4 teams.

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Great stats, particularly with all the people even on the Boneyard saying that UConn hasn't really played anyone yet .... they obviously are not alone, are they????

 

[Alydar]

That is totally ridiculous! UConn’s SOS on Massey is 2nd and OSU’s is 44th! Do these people really get paid for their work?!

Actually they get paid to produce clicks. Sad but true.

 

[mbr33ct]

Smith shows her bias by conveniently forgetting to mention that OSU won at home while UConn won in Chicago. Don't let truth distract you Michele. And don't worry about using one game to compare teams' schedules. LOL

As far as the ESPN cartel, they went all in on the PAC12 around Halloween and they'll defend themselves as expected. The one thing they haven't expected has been the

C'mon @Alydar don't keep us hanging here, finish your sentence.

 

[Shades]

Haven’t read this whole thread, so forgive me if someone has already posted Chris Dailey’s views on being #1 in the recent AP poll.

"I don't know that we're the No. 1 team in the country," Dailey said. "I haven't seen enough of a lot of people. But I've known our team when we have been No. 1. This team isn't there yet. We're not really worried about No. 1 now. What we want to do is give ourselves the best chance to be in position in March."

UConn Moves to No. 1 in AP Women's Basketball Poll

UConn is back in a familiar spot — No. 1 in The Associated Press women's basketball poll.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Steelerone]

I think that we will have a true reading of ourselves following the Baylor game. At this point I'm not sure that even Geno or Cris know exactly where we stack up against the Baylor's or Oregon's. The only real way to determine it will be the final score.

 

[bbsamjj]

It's been a weird year in that there have not been many "marquee" matchups thus far. You've had a couple teams in the top 10 notch a marquee win (that is, against another team in the Top 10) and then follow it up with a loss to an (at the time) unranked team.

Louisville beat Oregon, then went on to lose to Ohio State.
Stanford beat Miss State, then just lost to Texas.

SC has, in many ways, notched the most impressive wins: Maryland, Baylor (without Cox, but still), South Dakota, with their lone loss to top 20 Indiana. [Updated] Oregon St and Florida St, both undefeated, are close runner ups--Oregon St has beaten DePaul, Missouri State, and Miami, and FSU beat Texas A&M, Michigan, and Michigan St.

Meanwhile, UConn and Baylor have only one win over a top 25 opponent. Oregon actually has none (though Syracuse was ranked when they beat them). NC State has a win over MD and Texas (which now looks more impressive).

Conference play will correct this matchup deficiency soon enough: top 10 Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, UCLA will also play each other. So will the ACC's Florida St, NC State and Louisville. SC will have to get through Texas A&M, Kentucky, Mississippi St, Arkansas and Tennessee.

And of course, UConn's best games are all backloaded: Baylor, Tennessee, South Carolina, Oregon.

 

[eebmg]

It's been a weird year in that there have not been many "marquee" matchups thus far. You've had a couple teams in the top 10 notch a marquee top 10 win (that is, against another team in the Top 10) and then follow it up with a loss to (at the time) unranked team.

Louisville beat Oregon, then went on to lose to Ohio State.
Stanford beat Miss State, then just lost to Texas.

SC has, in many ways, notched the most impressive wins: Maryland, Baylor (without Cox, but still), South Dakota, with their lonely loss to top 20 Indiana. Florida St is a close runner up--they're undefeated and beat Texas A&M, Michigan, and Michigan St.

Meanwhile, UConn, Oregon St, Baylor have only one win over a top 25 opponent. Oregon actually has none (though Syracuse was ranked when they beat them). NC State has a win over MD and Texas (which now looks more impressive).

Conference play will correct this matchup deficiency soon enough: top 10 Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, UCLA will also play each other. So will the ACC's Florida St, NC State and Louisville. SC will have to get through Texas A&M, Kentucky, Mississippi St, Arkansas and Tennessee.

And of course, UConn's best games are all backloaded: Baylor, Tennessee, South Carolina, Oregon.

And a stewie playing US team for the fun of it. I cant wait to see what liv does in that one

 

[Dokey]

Let’s check back in March. This is fun but....

 

[Alydar]

C'mon @Alydar don't keep us hanging here, finish your sentence.

LOL Not intentional but nice to see someone is reading.

The one thing they haven't expected has been the speed at which UConn has improved. Surprises me too.

 

[Wbbfan1]

I believe the last season that UConn was not ranked #1 at some time during the season is 2011/12. Maya had graduated in the 2010/11 Season. The 2012/13 was Breanna, Morgan and Moriah's Freshmen Year. That's an amazing accomplishment. Didn't think this years team once it was decided that Westbrook would not play, would be Ranked #1 at any time this season.

 

[LoTrader]

It's been a weird year in that there have not been many "marquee" matchups thus far. You've had a couple teams in the top 10 notch a marquee win (that is, against another team in the Top 10) and then follow it up with a loss to an (at the time) unranked team.

Louisville beat Oregon, then went on to lose to Ohio State.
Stanford beat Miss State, then just lost to Texas.

SC has, in many ways, notched the most impressive wins: Maryland, Baylor (without Cox, but still), South Dakota, with their lone loss to top 20 Indiana. Florida St is a close runner up--they're undefeated and beat Texas A&M, Michigan, and Michigan St.

Meanwhile, UConn, Oregon St, Baylor have only one win over a top 25 opponent. Oregon actually has none (though Syracuse was ranked when they beat them). NC State has a win over MD and Texas (which now looks more impressive).

Conference play will correct this matchup deficiency soon enough: top 10 Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, UCLA will also play each other. So will the ACC's Florida St, NC State and Louisville. SC will have to get through Texas A&M, Kentucky, Mississippi St, Arkansas and Tennessee.

And of course, UConn's best games are all backloaded: Baylor, Tennessee, South Carolina, Oregon.

Oregon State has wins over 3 teams in the top 25: Miami, Missouri State, and DePaul.

 

[Plebe]

Oregon State has wins over 3 teams in the top 25: Miami, Missouri State, and DePaul.

It's really a joke that Miami is still in the top 25.

 

[LoTrader]

It's really a joke that Miami is still in the top 25.

Agreed. There are a few other rankings that I can't wrap my head around. Just correcting the "facts".

 

[newfrontier]

Meanwhile, UConn, Oregon St, Baylor have only one win over a top 25 opponent.

Pretty poor research on Oregon State. How about 3 wins against top 25: Numbers 16, 21, and 24.

 

[jumpstart]

It's been a weird year in that there have not been many "marquee" matchups thus far. You've had a couple teams in the top 10 notch a marquee win (that is, against another team in the Top 10) and then follow it up with a loss to an (at the time) unranked team.

Louisville beat Oregon, then went on to lose to Ohio State.
Stanford beat Miss State, then just lost to Texas.

SC has, in many ways, notched the most impressive wins: Maryland, Baylor (without Cox, but still), South Dakota, with their lone loss to top 20 Indiana. Florida St is a close runner up--they're undefeated and beat Texas A&M, Michigan, and Michigan St.

Meanwhile, UConn, Oregon St, Baylor have only one win over a top 25 opponent. Oregon actually has none (though Syracuse was ranked when they beat them). NC State has a win over MD and Texas (which now looks more impressive).

Conference play will correct this matchup deficiency soon enough: top 10 Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, UCLA will also play each other. So will the ACC's Florida St, NC State and Louisville. SC will have to get through Texas A&M, Kentucky, Mississippi St, Arkansas and Tennessee.

And of course, UConn's best games are all backloaded: Baylor, Tennessee, South Carolina, Oregon.

I watched the Indiana loss for South Carolina and that game was called way too close. Boston got in foul trouble out of the gate and many of the starters were in foul trouble throughout the game. I don't think Indiana could beat South Carolina again. They seemed to be playing against the refs and took a too cautious approach the rest of the game. I don't think they are underrated at 4...but they should be 13-0....if it had been played without the tight calls.

 

[Wbbfan1]

What about the Rest of your Schedule? Pacific, Southern Utah, Liberty, Hawaii, Utah St, Northern Ariz, BYU (not bad) and still to play CSU Bakersfield. Is that a schedule for a team that deserves a #1 Ranking? I don't think so. Do you believe that UConn wouldn't have won games against Ranked Miami and Mizz St? Both teams beat DePaul. If the DePaul game was played at Storrs, I suspect the Margin of Victory would have been larger. Do I think that Oregon ST beats the teams that UConn has played probably. Instead your team scheduled games against teams with Sub 200 RPI. UConn's highest RPI Team was Dayton, a quality Mid Majors most years.

It cracks me up to see the PAC 12 Brag on Arizona and Colorado still being Undefeated. Talk about Pathetic OOC Schedule. Both teams will end up as Frauds, once they get into conference play.

Oregon St has a significant size advantage over UConn and that would cause problems. However IMO Megan Walker would be the best player on the court and that has to count for something. If UConn was able to stay out of Foul Trouble, I think it would be an interesting game.

Oregon State has wins over 3 teams in the top 25: Miami, Missouri State, and DePaul.