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He would accomplish "not getting caught from behind" by sitting on the bench and having a legit BCS talent playing ahead of him.

He would accomplish not getting caught by not being there?!? There goes my other eye...

...you just can't make up this level of "stupid"...you are like the Mr. Miyagi of this board: "Best way to block punch, no be there!"
 
Its a repeated behavior issue?

So, the two times he broke long runs he did this?

I want more of this repeated behavior issue. Much more.

McCombs got excited after his second best run of the season and that's a problem?

When is it ok for him to show some emotion?

What is that old cliche, "act like you've been here/done it before". I think it is called class.
 
What McCombs shouldn't do is get caught from behind. He has now had a few big runs and in most instances he was caught before he scored. Wanna know why UConn is struggling . . . . . very little BCS caliber talent. Terry Caulley, Donald Brown, JT and Andre Dixon don't get caught, LM does. McCombs would be a solid 2 or 3 back . . . giving the real talent a breather every now and then. As for the rest of the team, with few exceptions ("85) they are all Colonial Conference caliber.

Well, the kid from Ansonia that just set the state record for career rushing yardage (about 8,300 with a few games left) is verballed to UConn. If he doesn't change his mind, when he gets here I guarantee you he won't get caught from behind. The problem is he is just a little guy. Then again, when is the last time you saw McCombs put his head down and run into someone?
 
You guys are thinking catastrophically. I see this season as a really, really bad round of golf. Just because you shoot 10 over what you normally score doesn't mean you will have to spend the next 5 rounds getting back to where you were.

This team had terrible Coaching and Leadership. From day one PGDL didn't have this team ready to play ball.
He spent the last 2 years eeking out 5 wins with the talent Edsall left for him, usually with opportunistic offense and strong defense.

We lost the DC that was making the defense more than was on paper. We got away from our running attack that always gave us a fighting chance.

With more effective leadership restoring a sense of purpose, direction and motivation I think that this program can make great strides in a short period of time. We have two young QBs getting invaluable game experience and a host of other players could be stronger, better and more competitive if they learn from this experience.
 
McCombs has nowhere near the straightline speed that Brown or Todman have. It's not even close. To my eye, Frey was the fastest of the bunch. I don't think he had the acceleration from scrimmage or quickness that those two have, but his top end was really good and that's why he was so great in coverage and such a good returner. I don't mean to pick on McCombs. I think he does a lot of great things for this team. But, he's been badly misscast imo.
 
Ok - quick question - I don't give a hoot about what you think of Pasqualoni as a coach, and if the palyers liked him or not.

Is the defense better now, or worse since Pasqualoni was fired and running the defense? Is the entire team playing better now, or worse since Pasqualoni was fired? Answer that honestly.

Don't get me wrong, Pasqualoni had to go, and he had to go because he failed to fire his buddy Deleone after last season, and I believe whole heartedly that his allegiance to Deleone is what cost him the trust and support of his players - so he had to go.

But you are being dishonest and misguided if you can't see that the players are responsible for what's happening on the field now, and that they are worse without Pasqualoni as the head coach.

There is partial effort all over the place, there are stupid penalties being committed all over the place by both freshmen and extended year seniors, and there are players that have no business, talent wise, effort wise, and leadership wise to be showboating, and there is no discipline in place to point out that you better frigging get back to the huddle and do your job as accurately and forcefully and with the most effort you can, and do what you can for the team to get a win, before you go out and put some kind of nonsense celebration together after a play on TV being broadcast across the entire country.

Trust me - if I had my way, Lyle McCombs would never play another down of UCONN football after his reaction to the long run on Saturday, and he's just the most visible example, there are more. It would be done, because there are no players on the team to take care of the attitude problem on their own.

This entire program needs to clean house. Randy Edsall's greatest strength, which eventually became his greatest fault at UCONN, was his micromanagement, - but his micromanagement, created the will to win, by demanding that players be disciplined and committed to the team and play with a chip on their shoulders at all time to be on top on the scoreboard - playing to win - at all times.

I remember when Jordan Todman scored against Notre Dame, and did the touchdown Jesus impersonation. Edsall, ran out on the field as he was coming off, and freaked out about as hard as I did on Saturday in my living room, when McCombs flexed his arms after running play on Saturday that didn't even result in a touchdown because he's too slow.

The difference? McCombs has done nothing, hje didn't even score!!! He got caught from behind AGAIN - by a player cutting across the entire field that was faster, and his team is winless, and undisciplined and has accomplished NOTHING but the worst season in 35 years of UCONN football. Todman's teams were winning and disciplined. Donald Brown was a huge trash talker - but they won, and were disciplined.

THis entire 2013 team is playing with leadership from the players, that is very much like they have a sense of entitlement, that they are better than they are because they play at UCONN, and have friends in the NFL, and Weist's has enabled it. You want to blame coaches, sure - they deserve a good portion of the blame, but the coaching has changed, the players have not.

They are an 0-7 team and getting worse, and every single one of them better look in the mirror and decide what kind of football player they are going to be, and leaders, disciplinary leaders, the emotional leaders, and the players that truly care about the scoreboard, need to get up and do something, or this team will continue to fold like a house of cards in the remaining 5 games.

I swear, I am still fuming, that there is no one on this roster or coaching staff, preferably a player, that was tearing McCombs a new after that play and showboat on the sidelines, and grabbing him by the head and forcing him to look at the scoreboard. For me - the game was over - that early. It was 7-0 on the scoreboard, and our players are celebrating on the sideline after a NON-scoring play.

That little arm flex was seen by UCONN fans from the east coast to California, and those of us that know what we're looking at felt the same way. I'm not joking about that.

Yes - I'm making example of him - somebody's got to, because that single play, and his reaction, and the team's reaction to him, sums up entirely in my little world, why this team is 0-7 and getting worse.

I believe 1000%, that if the attitude that I portray here, existed, and that someone - more importantly a player - not the coaches - was there to set McCombs straight after that play - in the way I"ve described, that we would not be a winless team, and threatening to go winless for an entire season.

But no TJ Weist - you are wrong - we WERE an 0-6 team,. and they want to Orlando and played like an 0-6 team, and they are now an 0-7 team.

You started by saying "quick question" ... and then you typed 890 more words ...
 
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LM is the least of the team's worries. All he needs, and has needed, is someone to put an arm over his shoulder and say, "Kid, we don't do that stuff at UCONN and if you do it again, you're sitting." The reason I'd try the softer approach is that the kid has shown that he really gives a damn. He has been taking a terrible beating (all running backs do, but his has been worse) for almost two seasons. But, he keeps taking the ball, keeps running at big mean people, and I've not seen or heard one complaint. Get rid of the show boating and I'd take 21 others with his attitude.
 
Carl is too forceful, and calling out one player in particular is too much for me, but he is not wrong, when he points out that players who allegedly high fiving each other when P, was canned are playing far worse now that he is gone. I'm speaking in general terms as I don't know which players were celebrating the firing. This team needs a new coach to come in and lead and change the culture that has sunk in the last three years.
 
Carl is too forceful, and calling out one player in particular is too much for me, but he is not wrong, when he points out that players who allegedly high fiving each other when P, was canned are playing far worse now that he is gone. I'm speaking in general terms as I don't know which players were celebrating the firing. This team needs a new coach to come in and lead and change the culture that has sunk in the last three years.

They definitely need a coach who is a morph of Jim Calhoun, Bobby Knight, Shug Jordan, and Bear Bryant.
 
He would accomplish not getting caught by not being there?!? There goes my other eye...

...you just can't make up this level of "stupid"...you are like the Mr. Miyagi of this board: "Best way to block punch, no be there!"

Miss the point much? McCombs wouldn't be starting at TB in a good program. Why? Doesn't have the breakaway speed needed. If he were a pitcher on an MLB team, he'd be a "back of the rotation guy". Unfortunately, on the recruiting challenged UConn team he's be the #1 starter now for three years. As for your eyes, stop poking them, you'd be amazed at how much sharper your vision will become.
 
Miss the point much? McCombs wouldn't be starting at TB in a good program. Why? Doesn't have the breakaway speed needed. If he were a pitcher on an MLB team, he'd be a "back of the rotation guy". Unfortunately, on the recruiting challenged UConn team he's be the #1 starter now for three years. As for your eyes, stop poking them, you'd be amazed at how much sharper your vision will become.

I love it. In this thread, I was responding to Carl, and you had to chime in with:

"What McCombs shouldn't do is get caught from behind. He has now had a few big runs and in most instances he was caught before he scored."

That is the level of quality of your posts. I would argue that it isn't D-1 quality. ;) If your problem with Lyle McCombs is that he isn't as good as the #1 running back at some other schools, then I don't know what to tell you. Go root for Alabama. You brought up Caulley before in this thread, so answer me this: How many offers did Terry have before he came here? Terry was successful because the OLine scheme was successful. I have no doubt that McCombs could be just as successful. I know that's true, because he did it his freshman year. It's amazing how much crap that kid catches on this friggin' board, and I don't have any logical reason as to why. But what do you care anyways? You don't want a running game. You want the QB to throw 70 times a game and have a "high-powered" offense...
 
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Miss the point much? McCombs wouldn't be starting at TB in a good program. Why? Doesn't have the breakaway speed needed. If he were a pitcher on an MLB team, he'd be a "back of the rotation guy". Unfortunately, on the recruiting challenged UConn team he's be the #1 starter now for three years. As for your eyes, stop poking them, you'd be amazed at how much sharper your vision will become.


Donald Brown got caught from behind on several occasions. He was pretty good too.
 
I love it. In this thread, I was responding to Carl, and you had to chime in with:

"What McCombs shouldn't do is get caught from behind. He has now had a few big runs and in most instances he was caught before he scored."

That is the level of quality of your posts. I would argue that it isn't D-1 quality. ;) If your problem with Lyle McCombs is that he isn't as good as the #1 running back at some other schools, then I don't know what to tell you. Go root for Alabama. You brought up Caulley before in this thread, so answer me this: How many offers did Terry have before he came here? Terry was successful because the OLine scheme was successful. I have no doubt that McCombs could be just as successful. I know that's true, because he did it his freshman year. It's amazing how much crap that kid catches on this friggin' board, and I don't have any logical reason as to why. But what do you care anyways? You don't want a running game. You want the QB to throw 70 times a game and have a "high-powered" offense...
This is my view too. He's a good back. His problem is that he isn't Todman or Brown, but he isn't running behind the lines those guys ran behind either. When he gets a hole he makes the best of it, often more than the best. The criticism seems to be that he doesn't run over guys, but he's 5-6 165 so he isn't running over too many 6-4 300 pound defensive tackles. And if you watch any football you'll see running backs get run down all the time. He's a good football player. he seems to give a damn, which I can't say for everyone on this current team, he does what ever is asked of him like returning punts, and kickoffs not because he is a great punt or kickoff returner but because we needed someone to go back and do it. and I've seen him layout much bigger pass rushers on more than one occasion. Give me 22 guys who give as much as he does and I'll take my chances.
 
Donald Brown got caught from behind on several occasions. He was pretty good too.

He also delivered blows (and stiff-arms) to anyone that tried to tackle him. If your argument is that DB = LM so be it. But it isn't a winning one. LM is a good back. But based on what came before him, he is a step down when we couldn't afford it considering that the rest of the team also took a step back. DB and others have carried the team on their backs. LM can't. I'm not blaming him for that. But the argument that he would have done the same as DB or others if only he had the same lines to run behind doesn't feel true to me. Can't prove it either way, but that's where I come out.
 
He also delivered blows (and stiff-arms) to anyone that tried to tackle him. If your argument is that DB = LM so be it. But it isn't a winning one. LM is a good back. But based on what came before him, he is a step down when we couldn't afford it considering that the rest of the team also took a step back. DB and others have carried the team on their backs. LM can't. I'm not blaming him for that. But the argument that he would have done the same as DB or others if only he had the same lines to run behind doesn't feel true to me. Can't prove it either way, but that's where I come out.

I don't disagree with what you wrote. Donald Brown is the better back in my opinion as well. But Donald Brown is playing on Sundays right now. It's okay to be thought of as less than Donald Brown.

But let's also recognize that it's not just the OLine that's different now (we had a couple back then who made it to Sundays as well ([Will Beatty at the Giants, Mike Ryan made a short stint at the Bengals, IIRC]). It's also the fact that we don't have a fullback (hell, we don't even use a fullback anymore!). Those guys were running behind the Shermanator (who is also playing on Sundays). Before that, they were running behind Deon Anderson (yet another guy who was playing on Sundays, and is now apparently winning MMA championships....who knew?).

So there was a lot more in place for those RBs than there are for any of the RBs in our stable today, and therefore it's not even fair to compare the sets of running backs from now and then...
 
I don't disagree with what you wrote. Donald Brown is the better back in my opinion as well. But Donald Brown is playing on Sundays right now. It's okay to be thought of as less than Donald Brown.

But let's also recognize that it's not just the OLine that's different now (we had a couple back then who made it to Sundays as well ([Will Beatty at the Giants, Mike Ryan made a short stint at the Bengals, IIRC]). It's also the fact that we don't have a fullback (hell, we don't even use a fullback anymore!). Those guys were running behind the Shermanator (who is also playing on Sundays). Before that, they were running behind Deon Anderson (yet another guy who was playing on Sundays, and is now apparently winning MMA championships....who knew?).

So there was a lot more in place for those RBs than there are for any of the RBs in our stable today, and therefore it's not even fair to compare the sets of running backs from now and then...
This is really what I meant. I'm not suggesting that McCombs = Brown, but only that he would be far more productive running behind those earlier offensive lines than the Swiss cheese he has had to contend with.
 
If your argument is that DB = LM so be it. But it isn't a winning one.

Was it that obvious that was my argument? Because I didn't say anything remotely close to that.

I can live with LM getting caught from behind on 50+ yard runs. If he got better blocking, we would have that problem more often.

And I'm willing to live with it. And him showing emotion on those runs.
 
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I think many of you are weak-minded. The Sun will come out tomorrow ... ('bet your bottom dollar ..")

I'm surprised that you didn't steal from Les Miserables.
 
You guys are thinking catastrophically. I see this season as a really, really bad round of golf. Just because you shoot 10 over what you normally score doesn't mean you will have to spend the next 5 rounds getting back to where you were.

This team had terrible Coaching and Leadership. From day one PGDL didn't have this team ready to play ball.
He spent the last 2 years eeking out 5 wins with the talent Edsall left for him, usually with opportunistic offense and strong defense.

We lost the DC that was making the defense more than was on paper. We got away from our running attack that always gave us a fighting chance.

With more effective leadership restoring a sense of purpose, direction and motivation I think that this program can make great strides in a short period of time. We have two young QBs getting invaluable game experience and a host of other players could be stronger, better and more competitive if they learn from this experience.
Zoo, incredibly uplifting thoughts. Nice to read. Thanks.
 
Carl is too forceful, and calling out one player in particular is too much for me, but he is not wrong, when he points out that players who allegedly high fiving each other when P, was canned are playing far worse now that he is gone. I'm speaking in general terms as I don't know which players were celebrating the firing. This team needs a new coach to come in and lead and change the culture that has sunk in the last three years.

You are making it appear as if the entire team took a victory dance when the firing was announced. One UConn student tweeted that the football players in his math class (I'm guessing that there were two, three at the most in that class) high fived.

As far as playing worse, There is no discernable difference, outside of run blocking, with how we played at home with P in charge (and a full set of assistants) compared to how we've played at home with JT in charge. The same can be said for how each has performed on the road. The biggest difference I see (with a team that for whatever reasons clearly appears lost in road games) is that this season to date P coached only one road game while TJ has only coached one home game.
 
Bellamy was an effective back at UConn, and it is possible that I had a top speed better than his. A smart back that gets good blocking and knows how to read it can be effective.
 
You are making it appear as if the entire team took a victory dance when the firing was announced. One UConn student tweeted that the football players in his math class (I'm guessing that there were two, three at the most in that class) high fived.

As far as playing worse, There is no discernable difference, outside of run blocking, with how we played at home with P in charge (and a full set of assistants) compared to how we've played at home with JT in charge. The same can be said for how each has performed on the road. The biggest difference I see (with a team that for whatever reasons clearly appears lost in road games) is that this season to date P coached only one road game while TJ has only coached one home game.

You may be right about the home/road split, but the defense is playing lights out worse. Its not even debatable IMO. WRs open everywhere. But regardless, there was confusion before and after the move. The last two games were over as soon as the other team got the ball. We haven't had a chance on defense it seems.

I'm done with all this, just want to see who they bring in. P and GDL are rearview mirror. This team is playing out the string of a terrible season. I"m sure they feel terrible, but I do worry that the worst thing P left is a feeling that its "okay, we will get em next time". Football is too short a season/too few games. I'm actually optimistic about this hire because I believe Warde knows football in ways the previous guy did not.
 
You may be right about the home/road split, but the defense is playing lights out worse. Its not even debatable IMO. WRs open everywhere. But regardless, there was confusion before and after the move. The last two games were over as soon as the other team got the ball. We haven't had a chance on defense it seems.

I'm done with all this, just want to see who they bring in. P and GDL are rearview mirror. This team is playing out the string of a terrible season. I"m sure they feel terrible, but I do worry that the worst thing P left is a feeling that its "okay, we will get em next time". Football is too short a season/too few games. I'm actually optimistic about this hire because I believe Warde knows football in ways the previous guy did not.
How did we do defensively in Buffalo? How does Buffalo's offense stack up against Cincinnati and UCF? I could argue that our best defensive effort of the year was against USF.

I don't believe that we've seen enough of a sample to claim that anything is worse now than it was under P and the only thing that has changed is our run blocking which has improved significantly. My argument is that shy of run blocking, things are as they were with the exception of two fewer assistants which in and of itself I believe played a tremendous role in the failure of our final drive against USF.

I don't know why this team is as lost as it is on the road. I've never seen anything this severe in my life (and I have followed football quite seriously since the late 1960's) but I have a strong suspicion that our defensive effort against Louisville will more resemble our games against Michigan, Maryland and USF than our road game efforts. FWIW the biggest reason Michigan didn't have the success in the air against us that Cincinnati and UCF did was because for whatever reasons (he has improved, see Indiana) their QB could not hit their receivers. There were plenty of open targets who the QB missed by a few feet to a few yards that game.
 
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The DBs also had their best game against UM. The play Byron Jones made on the INT was a great play. In large part because he was in position to make a play. I'll agree to disagree. When we have tried to play zone, there have been wide open guys every where. Against UCF we had to guys in the flat and WR snuck in behind them in the endzone for as easy a td pitch and catch as you can see. Simplify this thing and go man. Are you going to expose yourself and be vulnerable to certain plays? Yeah, but were already getting blown out. At the very least that should eliminate some of the tentativeness you see out there. kids just look unsure of their assignments.
 
If effort, emotion and passion aren't part of the issue than why was the best game they played all year against Michigan at home?

Michigan isn't all that spectacular but this is a team that lost to USF....
 
Also, there is bad and there is a game like UCF that was clearly over 5 minutes into it. By the end of the first quarter it was a name your score situation...

These same horrendous coached did manage 5 wins each of the last two years... How is it all coaching and a free pass for players?
 
As far as the original premise. What LM did is hardly a big deal, TJ dealt with it well. It's probably shouldn't register in the top 100 things to be upset about.
 
These same horrendous coached did manage 5 wins each of the last two years... How is it all coaching and a free pass for players?


The difference between this year and 2011, 2012 is Don Brown. Our once proud defense has completely collapsed.
 
You like many other posters think it's as easy as, "just suck it up" and play. Maybe 1% of the people on this board have a clue on what it's like to go through what these players have gone through in the past 2.5 years.

You and everyone else can bloviate until the cows come home. You're just another know it all internet poster that people "in the know", i.e., coaches, players and scouts laugh at on a daily basis.

People post like they have a clue. They don't. Not one iota of a clue. "Man up"....Don't quit on the team"....Play hard all the time"

I doubt there are more than 3 people on this board who could put in the effort these players put in 12 months out of the year.

Takes real men to bash them to death after the bull they've been through.

Really easy from the bleachers ain't it guys?

By the way...all you smart guys who thought Smallwood's stock has dropped this year? He's a semi finalist for the Butkus award. Top 12 in the country.

Boy, are you sadly mistaken. I played 14 years of football from a tike through college. Many here have played the game I am ceratin. That makes many of us brothers. If you played the game even for a few years you understand it for what it is - a mental battle. In fact, I can directly relate to almost every kind of hit those guys experience. You name it I can remember it, being flipped, being blind side hit, being speared, being hit so hard you actually see colors and hear a buzz, falling on your head, geting rolled up on, etc, etc.... When its cold and freezing rain its a battle, when its sweltering hot its a battle, when your fingers are crushed and thrombing its a battle, when you get a stinger or your shoulder seperates it a battle, when you get your clock cleaned its a battle. Those who have never played think its physical. Wrong. Its physical intensity brought out by mental will power coupled with the ability to execute. Dont think for a minute that the game is not won or lost man to man, play to play, hit to hit. The game is about mental dominence of your opponent through physical battle. I can assure you based on your commentary, among the two of us you know nothing. I have great respect for those who fight like annimals and are overmatched. They are warriors. I have little respect for those who have the ability but have conceded defeat on the field.

At my riping old age, I proudly wake with a knee that aches every day, a left shoulder that locks up and I cannot lift over my head, and a fractured 5th vertbrae that causes me pain when I sleep. I would not trade a single day of physical aches and pains for my time playing the game. There is hardly anything greater or more accutaely defning in the character of young men, except actual warfare. I think i have earned the right to levy my assessment, and I know many others here have as well.
 
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