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Week 12 - Jan 22 to 28

Pili was awful tonight. So many really really poor, forced shots.

I've been trying to not complain this year, but officiating appeared to be one sided to me tonight, and it wasn't in favor of the home team.
When I posted my comment about tonight's refs, I was thinking the same thing. It was a guess on my part who was the culprit, especially when it came to a charge vs a block and a blocked shot vs a foul...
 
Pili was better in the OT, but really good games for Young, McQueen and Wilke for the Utes. Vieria with the biggest hoop of the night to force OT, and she had a big impact in OT.

I already gave kudos to Jacquez, good game for Rice as well. Dugalic got off to a really good start but then disappeared.


I had some questions about Betts during the Ohio St. game, and I have even more now. I'm not sure that there's much more to her than just being tall. She's putting up good numbers and she's efficient, but I'm not sure about her pro prospects down the road. I think she needs to add a lot to her game.
I have had questions about Betts’ toughness since she was ranked the number one prospect. But, she has time to toughen up before her draft day iin two years
 
One ref kept playing with his hair. I hope it's ok. I thought they allowed UCLA to be way too physical (too handsy) with UTAH guards.
 
I have had questions about Betts’ toughness since she was ranked the number one prospect. But, she has time to toughen up before her draft day iin two years
It's more about skills to me. I don't see much variety in her low post moves. There's certainly time to improve that, some players completely transform their game as they mature. Also, she's a black hole, she has 10 assists this season. She needs to figure out how to pass out of a double/triple team.
 
Is that Nancy Lieberman doing an annoying job on this KSt-Baylor game?
 
After UCLA-Utah, I switched over to some Big Sky action. I'm sure there is plenty of this all over the country, but Montana has an interesting team makeup. Younger sister of Ace Konig from NC State several years ago. Younger sister of Lexi Donarksi from Iowa St./North Carolina. Maggie Espenmiller-McGraw, grad transfer from Iowa St. The Huard sisters, daughters of former NFL QB and current tv announcer Brock. The much traveled Keeli Burton-Oliver, who was at both Arizona St. and Washington St. but never appeared in a game for either. And apparently half their roster is from Washington, and that doesn't even include the Huards who spent most of their life there before dad moved to Colorado for work.
 
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That CO/UT road trip in the Pac12 is quite something.

USC went 0-2
UCLA went 1-1
Stanford went 1-1

Then again, the USC/UCLA road combo will surely not be fun for teams too.
Yeah. Two great teams + high altitude. Congrats to both.
 
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KSU sinks Baylor.
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Baylor really didn't take advantage of those final 10 seconds. What was that???
 
Baylor really didn't take advantage of those final 10 seconds. What was that???
After that initial quick foul by KSt, I'm guessing Baylor thought it was going to happen again so they threw up a 3 hoping they could turn that into 3 free throws.
 
That CO/UT road trip in the Pac12 is quite something.

USC went 0-2
UCLA went 1-1
Stanford went 1-1

Then again, the USC/UCLA road combo will surely not be fun for teams too.
Cal appears to be improved enough that you can't just overlook that part of the Bay Area road trip. 3 of the 4 Northwest schools left Berkeley with a loss this year.

There are plenty of not fun road trips around the conference.
 
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PAC-12 is ridiculously tough this season: UCLA is 4-2 and UTAH is 4-3. Both of these teams have the makeup to make the Final 4.
I’m pretty sure coaching will keep them both out of the final four but we will see!
 
Kansas State plays like a veteran team. Really impressed with them. I really like Sundell. And Gabby Gregory has some rough shooting splits this season but she's still a big threat at all three levels.
I'm a bit perplexed by Baylor's recent struggles cus they looked so good against Texas to open conference play. it seemed like everyone played well that game. Today it was like the opposite where no one their team played well. It's only 3 losses though.
As far as Utah vs UCLA. Really impressed with Utah. Ive always liked McQueen and wanted her to take a step up. She played really well today and so many others did as well. They are formidable. I agree rough showing from Pilu but credit to Betts and Dugalic and Sontag. Pili didn't really have too many easy looks. She struggled against the size of Brink and Kiki of Stanford as well. I know it's kinda lazy and something she deals with every night but I do think length impacts her game. Would love to see her shoot from midrange more off pick and roll instead of trying to bulldoze. I'm not opposed to the bulldoze cuz that's her game but I think she needed to mix it up a bit more to be effective. Lastly, I do think she got fouled again on the second to last play in regulation.lol.
I agree with the Betts criticism as well but she's only a sophomore and will get better with more minutes. But I agree that she can be a bit one dimensional without variety in the post. But I still am pretty high on her. Just a tough game vs a really good team. I think UCLA will get better from this loss.
 
@jdote33 according to the commentators it sounds like Coach Roberts is REALLY not a fan of mid range shots. She wants her players taking 3s or something close to the bucket, nothing else. I know I've seen Pili hit 10-15 foot jump shots, but apparently her coach discourages that.

Pili got off to a slow start. I thought she was pushing too hard to try to make an impact, some of her shots were very forced, had zero chance of going in. She's usually so efficient, it was very strange seeing her have a game like that.

I hear you about length bothering her, but she had a monster game against South Carolina, and they have about as much length as anybody.
 
Thursday is my birthday, and I am contemplating attending the NC State/Clemson game that evening; it's about an hour drive for me to Littlejohn. Weather forecast is for showers and thunderstorms...and I'm at an age now I don't feel 100% comfortable driving on wet roads, especially the poorly-maintained and poorly-lighted rural roads. Will be monitoring and will make a decision Thursday afternoon... but this is the closest I'll get to actually seeing NC State play live this season. I've attended the last two games when NC State traveled down here. I couldn't think of a better birthday present than having NC State play at a high level while I'm in attendance, and getting a road W.

The downside is...if I go, then I'll miss all of the hoopla (pardon the pun) about South Carolina's much-anticipated visit to Baton Rouge...and even if I record the game, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to go the whole evening without score updates being announced in Littlejohn.
Littlejohn is your best chance of avoiding the score if it's going well for the Gamecocks.
 
I had some questions about Betts during the Ohio St. game, and I have even more now. I'm not sure that there's much more to her than just being tall. She's putting up good numbers and she's efficient, but I'm not sure about her pro prospects down the road. I think she needs to add a lot to her game.
I mean look, I realize I risk a serious accusation of sour grapes here, but there’s a reason I just wasn’t that devastated that she transferred. If anyone wants to make the case for why she should have started over Brink or Iriafen on our squad, I’m waiting… and from her mother’s embarrassingly half-anonymous posts on our fan board made clear, her transfer was predicated on expecting to start this season and leaving when she wouldn’t be given that guarantee.
 
I had some questions about Betts during the Ohio St. game, and I have even more now. I'm not sure that there's much more to her than just being tall. She's putting up good numbers and she's efficient, but I'm not sure about her pro prospects down the road. I think she needs to add a lot to her game.
I've had the same thoughts about Betts for a while now -- as far back as her last appearance in the FIBA games. She has a good shooting touch around the rim and seems to have good hands. She is also painfully slow, lumbering even. Kamila is much quicker running the floor and moving her feet in the paint. And in tonight's game she looked somehow even slower, so much so that Close took her out in the final minutes and in OT. Clearly the coach sees her as a liability in clutch situations. I wonder if this decline is indicative of an undisclosed injury. If so, she might recover later this season and become again the pivotal player UCLA needs. But as she is now, I'm not sure they can beat Stanford, much less be competitive against SC.
 
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I've had the same thoughts about Betts for a while now -- as far back as her last appearance in the FIBA games. She has a good shooting touch around the rim and seems to have good hands. She is also painfully slow, lumbering even. Kamila is much quicker running the floor and moving her feet in the paint. And in tonight's game she looked somehow even slower, so much so that Close took her out in the final minutes and in OT. Clearly the coach sees her as a liability in clutch situations. I wonder if this decline is indicative of an undisclosed injury. If so, she might recover later this season and become again the pivotal player UCLA needs. But as she is now, I'm not sure they can beat Stanford, much less be competitive against SC.
Betts has always looked like that which is why I’ve always been flummoxed by how unhappy she seemed to be with her minutes at Stanford. No way should she starting over Brink and Kiki has made it obvious why she wasn’t starting over her as well. I’m skeptical of Close’s player development so I feel she would have been much better off at Stanford than potentially staying the same at UCLA but with more minutes.
 
I've never been exactly wowed by Betts either but let's have some perspective:

She just had a 20pt, 13 rebound game at Colorado.
She had 17pts and 11 rebounds at Ohio St.
She had 22 pts and 18 rebounds at Fl St.
She had 13pts and 7 rebounds vs UConn.
In two games against USC she's gone for 10pts and 3 rebounds (L) and 15pts and 8 rebounds (W).

I don't know if it was the altitude, the way Utah was guarding her, or she just had a bad game, but she's been a fairly reliable weapon for UCLA in its biggest games.
 
I've never been exactly wowed by Betts either but let's have some perspective:

She just had a 20pt, 13 rebound game at Colorado.
She had 17pts and 11 rebounds at Ohio St.
She had 22 pts and 18 rebounds at Fl St.
She had 13pts and 7 rebounds vs UConn.
In two games against USC she's gone for 10pts and 3 rebounds (L) and 15pts and 8 rebounds (W).

I don't know if it was the altitude, the way Utah was guarding her, or she just had a bad game, but she's been a fairly reliable weapon for UCLA in its biggest games.
I don’t read those numbers the same way I guess. 13/7 against UConn looks like a red flag to me. What sort of resistance could Edwards and Brady have posed to an effective big flanked by two other quality bigs? The real question mark is defense. She’s a good rim protector but too slow to guard much more than a few feet from the rim. That was clear last night. I think this was why Close took her out for much of the 4th and the OT.

The other numbers are respectable but don’t leap off the page for me, especially having watched a few Colorado games. Miller and Vonleh don’t look like they can pose much of a challenge to Betts. They’re smaller and no quicker. Same for Fl St. The tOSU game may have been her best performance. I expect she’ll put up good numbers against that sort of opposition, but not against the top teams, certainly not against SC and maybe not even against Stanford if Brink is healthy.
 
I mean look, I realize I risk a serious accusation of sour grapes here, but there’s a reason I just wasn’t that devastated that she transferred. If anyone wants to make the case for why she should have started over Brink or Iriafen on our squad, I’m waiting… and from her mother’s embarrassingly half-anonymous posts on our fan board made clear, her transfer was predicated on expecting to start this season and leaving when she wouldn’t be given that guarantee.
Doesn't come across as sour grapes to me. Unfortunately, we're in a generation where this attitude exists among a lot of players, regardless of their ranking. In the end, it was best that she move on to where she feels appreciated. Better for the morale of Stanford in my opinion.
 
Now I haven't seen the game, but KSU beating Baylor without Lee doesn't surprise me for some reason. If there was skepticism about the team being able to compete without Lee, I believe this game is an indication that they have some grit.
 
I don’t read those numbers the same way I guess. 13/7 against UConn looks like a red flag to me. What sort of resistance could Edwards and Brady have posed to an effective big flanked by two other quality bigs? The real question mark is defense. She’s a good rim protector but too slow to guard much more than a few feet from the rim. That was clear last night. I think this was why Close took her out for much of the 4th and the OT.

The other numbers are respectable but don’t leap off the page for me, especially having watched a few Colorado games. Miller and Vonleh don’t look like they can pose much of a challenge to Betts. They’re smaller and no quicker. Same for Fl St. The tOSU game may have been her best performance. I expect she’ll put up good numbers against that sort of opposition, but not against the top teams, certainly not against SC and maybe not even against Stanford if Brink is healthy.
Who are the other two quality bigs on UCLA flanking Betts? Dugalic is a very solid player but not exactly a world beater (and she was 1-7 against UConn).

I didn't watch the UCLA vs UConn matchup like many here; but Betts only took 7 shots (5-7). Meanwhile, Edwards and Brady went a combined 2-17 from the field and had a combined 5pts and 9 rebounds. Was that because of Betts or they just had terrible games? Probably a combo of both.

We will see how she fares against Stanford, and UCLA gets home games against both CO and Utah coming up. But not exactly sure how many other top teams she needs to play against to prove her worth. If the bar is "She's not as good as Cardoso or Brink"--don't think anyone is really arguing that.
 
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