I don't care what the OOC looks like. I only care that UCONN will prevail over all the teams!! I don't care what conference UCONN plays in. as long as we win the Title. I don't care what UCONN's seeding is going into the NCAA games as long as we go on a 6 game win streak.So it is obvious that I only care about is wins, Which is the reason we play this game. GO HUSKIES!!!!!! THE BEAST OF THE EAST!!!!!
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I think the emerging of the UConn football team is a positive sign that the ACC will look into a merge, or at least they will find value in inviting UConn alone to join the conference. Everybody knows that the football program is the Achilles heel for UConn, but what Jim Mora has done is unbelievable, bringing the program back to life. And besides, having a coach of Moras stature would be a win for the ACC. Add in the stature of Geno and Hurley, it would be a land of riches to have this team of coaches in the conference.
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The ACC isn’t a club that UConn can just sign up to and join. UConn has been trying to get into a bigger conference for years, without luck, and it’s not because of the football team. It’s been discussed ad nauseum how hard UConn has tried to get into any of the P4, in fact there’s an entire board on the Boneyard just to discuss conference realignment.
BC blackballed UConn from joining the ACC because the state of Connecticut sued them for leaving the Big East after they said they’d stay. So now every year when the ACC meets, the conference discusses whether they’ll expand again and the decision has been “no”, as it was this year.
Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)
It was pretty obvious to me it wasn't going to break apart until they started approaching the 2036 finish. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44093338/sources-fsu-clemson-expected-reach-settlement-acc
As for football, last year UConn went to a bowl where it beat ACC team NC State. This year, the Huskies are 7-3, have the 12 ranked QB, and some of the best defensive stats in the country and yet the ACC chose not to extend an offer. Anyone that thinks all UConn needs to do to join a bigger conference is to pick up the phone needs to do some reading because you’re misinformed
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There always exists a “standalone” opportunity for UConn to make a jump to a P4 conference. But the P4 are all about football, and UConn is the one and only school in the BE that is playing a BCS football schedule, albeit as an independent. Unless a school checks off BCS football as a competitive sport there is no opportunity for them to join a P4 conference.
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There is no Big East football. Villanova is in the CAA and Georgetown is in the Patriot League. If any other schools play football, I’m unaware of it
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Butler plays in the Pioneer League. Like Villanova and Georgetown they are a non-BCS team with no ambition to play with the big boys of college football.
Our schedule is relatively weaker this year than most years, but still it is stronger than most national championship contenders before they hit their conference schedule. After teams start their conference schedule our competition is much weaker.
That means there is pressure on us to not have a slip up before everyone hits the conference schedule because we have few opportunities to make up for it with a big win. The Big East seems relatively weaker this year as well, so our seeding upside is pretty well determined before the conference schedule, with the exception of two significant OOC games later in the year.
If we sweep all our OOC games, we are very likely to be the #1 overall seed. If we lose one of them, I think we could still be one of the four top seeds, but we are somewhat at the mercy of how other teams do. Basically we probably need to have fewer losses than the winner of the Power 4 conferences to stay ahead of them.
The good news is a team has to be pretty exceptional to get thru those conference schedules unscathed. I think the odds of one team winning all their conference games in the Power 4 is not very high, whereas it is almost expected for us. Our season is try to hold serve OOC where we will be favored in every game, while rooting for the top teams in the Power 4 to knock each other off every once in a while.
We start in the top position and probably have the best chance in the country to run the table, but if we do lose one, we probably need the other top teams to lose two to stay ahead of them, but that could happen. I suspect if we lost two, our upside would be a number 2 seed, but time will tell.
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I think this subject is interesting. When I was in college at Washington and Lee University, those schools were D3. I don’t know the ins and outs of it. My best friend’s father coached Davidson football and he advanced the program to a higher level. He eventually destroyed the D3 schedule and Davidson moved toward D1AA and D1.
I don’t think it’s helpful to just shoot down our ideas. (Not you)
I think we all want the best basketball players in the world to be able to compete at the highest level possible.
FYI Minnesota embarrassed Marquette last night, 90-47. Creighton plays Nebraska tonight and Princeton plays Nova tonight.
If it’s a duck, call it a duck.
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The schedule is what it is. Just go out and win games.yracu
What can hurt your seeding for the NCAA's is loosing.
As to the ACC, though UConn would be an excellent fit, BC, Miami, Pitt and Syracuse really don't want us. Asl Bluementhal why.
What can hurt your seeding for the NCAA's is loosing.
As to the ACC, though UConn would be an excellent fit, BC, Miami, Pitt and Syracuse really don't want us. Asl Bluementhal why.
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I am not suggesting for a second that BE WBB is formidable. There is UConn and everyone else. But unless and until UConn can somehow finagle membership into a P4 conference I will continue to say what I have repeated ad nauseum, “It is what it is.”
I think this is the weakest out of conference schedule we have had in ages. My guess is that Geno called and a lot of people said no. And we may have struggled to put this schedule together.
And our weak schedule really rears its head when we look at the conference schedule. The big east is way down this year. There is no semi strong Creighton team anymore. Marquette was just selected to finish second in the conference. And they lost to Minnesota by 40.
We can only control what we can control as far as the schedule is concerned. But I think it is harder this year to give LSU a hard time about their schedule.
And our weak schedule really rears its head when we look at the conference schedule. The big east is way down this year. There is no semi strong Creighton team anymore. Marquette was just selected to finish second in the conference. And they lost to Minnesota by 40.
We can only control what we can control as far as the schedule is concerned. But I think it is harder this year to give LSU a hard time about their schedule.
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We didn't join for wbb. It was for mbb.
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It wouldn't matter if we were a #16 seed. No one wants to face us. We just get penalized with no home games.
I said this is an unusually weak schedule when it came out and that there is a good chance we go undefeated. But that wouldn't necessarily mean we are the best team, we need to play at least one of the other teams that are going to compete for a title like UCLA, South Carolina or Texas. Tennessee will be a tough test for us, but that's about it. This makes me nervous for the tournament because the other conferences are stronger top to bottom so those other teams will be battle tested a little more than us. I trust the coaches though.
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The thing that irritates me most about this year's schedule is not the quality of OOC, or even how mediocre the conference is this year. It's the number of conference games. No conference should have more than 18 games, IMO, even if it's very strong. And we've got 20.
The college game is hurt - in terms of being able to compare teams around the country, in terms of "narratives," etc. - because conferences have limited space for good OOC games. They're all busy with their conferences in the later part of the season, and many are uninterested in testing their team early in the season.
I've had an opinion for a long time, where I wish that there was a mandatory conference break lasting 2-3 weeks in February, in which teams were obliged to schedule OOC. They can make up for it by starting their conference play earlier than they typically do today. Combine that with a stricter limit in total conference games allowed (maybe 16), and the sport as a whole should end up with some juicy OOC during that time period.
The college game is hurt - in terms of being able to compare teams around the country, in terms of "narratives," etc. - because conferences have limited space for good OOC games. They're all busy with their conferences in the later part of the season, and many are uninterested in testing their team early in the season.
I've had an opinion for a long time, where I wish that there was a mandatory conference break lasting 2-3 weeks in February, in which teams were obliged to schedule OOC. They can make up for it by starting their conference play earlier than they typically do today. Combine that with a stricter limit in total conference games allowed (maybe 16), and the sport as a whole should end up with some juicy OOC during that time period.
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Guys - (sigh, it’s only November but we need to do this again)
- AP and Coaches Poll rankings have zero to do with seeding. Nada, zip. Not UConn’s ranking or its opponents
- The NET ranking is important. A team doesn’t need to be top tier, only in the top 25 of the NET when UConn plays at home and top 50 when playing on the road. That makes it a Quad 1 win - which is important - and several Big East teams fall into that category as do other UConn opponents. Playing a team with a winning record is also valuable to the Huskies
- Geno likes to play a variety of teams with different styles of play so he can prepare the team for the postseason. While he hates to lose and tries to avoid it as much as possible his ultimate goal is to prepare for March and April. I think that’s one reason for his success- he’s trying to build a postseason team while other teams are focused on winning the regular season
The forward looking SOS on Massey for UConn is 22. Not horrible!
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So I guess this board will have no more bitching about injuries, referees, what people in the media say.
Gonna be mighty quiet.
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It's about competition for players, coaches, schools, and fans. Ideally in a season there are competitive opportunities with other teams twice a week. When I went to the Univ of MD in the early 80's, we waited in line for the ticket office to open so we could get our tickets. Every game in the ACC was tough. We had Albert King, NC had Jordan, Perkins, etc. Back in those days, conference championships were a battle royale. 1974 Maryland- 4th ranked, lost to NC St to get knocked out of the NCAA tournament. Every game was important. We didn't talk about seeding in November. What is that?
30 for 30: Requiem for the Big East- ascension of the Big East basketball league in the 80's.
Reminder of what league competition night after night can look like. OMG to be a player then!
I know, "it is what it is", and UConn does everything humanly possible to enhance the players' experience playing at a high level in college, but.....
I don't know what, but I believe something can be done...
30 for 30: Requiem for the Big East- ascension of the Big East basketball league in the 80's.
Reminder of what league competition night after night can look like. OMG to be a player then!
I know, "it is what it is", and UConn does everything humanly possible to enhance the players' experience playing at a high level in college, but.....
I don't know what, but I believe something can be done...