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We should play faster
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I think we are 16-1. ? Not sure we should speed it up have 3 or 4 more losses .
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We play a slow pace because of the offensive sets we run. We literally make teams defend 6-8 screens of more and multiple actions in a 25 second period and it generally results in a high quality shot. Then we do that 60 more times. It wears teams down. Could we score more if we played a quicker tempo? Sure. Would our KenPom #’s be higher? Yes. At the end of the day we have a recipe that works. It’s not at all like watching Virginia win a national championship scoring 50 points/game. Much more pleasing on the eyes.
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Two things here - the first is the same as your other request that we should press more. Speeding up the game means more defensive possessions where we are more likely to foul - this team can't afford that, though they have definitely been getting better about fouling.
Second, they haven't been a fast team in a long time - that's not the method. Run offense with cuts and screens and back screens and more cuts to get the best possible shot over 25 or so seconds. This also wears on the defense over the course of the game. It has been working just fine and no reason to change it. Run when you have the opportunity, execute the offense to get the best shot when you can't run.
Fewer bad turnovers and making more open shots is about all I would ask for.
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He has said this a few times, but I'm never quite sure why. His teams aren't some of the slowest in the country by accident year after year. It's because he asks them to run a deliberate offense with multiples actions.
I guess no one says "okay play slow guys." And the difference between a "fast" Hurley team and not is like being the 250th vs the 300th fastest team.
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I guess it depends what you mean by playing faster. I do think at times they need to look for early offense when the opportunity presents itself. I also think they need to execute their fast break a little bit better. I don't think they should try a bunch of any full court pressure unless they're behind and need to generate some turnovers. They file at too much of an alarming rate to do that.
They've been very good at generating good shots even when the shot clock is almost running out. Just a little more early offense would be helpful if an opportunity presents itself such as a clear mismatch where Demary can take a bigger man off the dribble or one of our bigs exploiting a mismatch after a player switch.
They've been very good at generating good shots even when the shot clock is almost running out. Just a little more early offense would be helpful if an opportunity presents itself such as a clear mismatch where Demary can take a bigger man off the dribble or one of our bigs exploiting a mismatch after a player switch.
We're in transition 16.5% of the time this year, 19.7% of the time in 2024 and 18.6% of the time in 2023. 16.1% last year.
With how many stops we're getting on defense, you'd expect us to be in transition a lot more often than we were last season.
Oh no, you made a comparison to previous teams.
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Only if it gets easy baskets by faster. The offensive execution is so good, they are top 5 in offense, why would they rush an offense that gets you shots that are excellent?
I think they could force more turnovers and turn defense into offense more, but they are so good. There is no need to try and force pace imo. Take what is there.
It's about shot quality.
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Agree - BUT, depth is often most effective when you tire the other team out, ala 23 team. Depth isn't quite as important when you run long half court sets.
Irony is that one of our highest scoring outputs when we did push ball (PC), we barely played the bench.
I like what they have been running. They have just been missing wide open 3s some nights and also not finishing bunnies at the rim. Running a long set and making the other team chase them helps the defense. It tires out the other team and if they run a good set and take a good shot they should be in position to set up their defense.
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We tire teams out in the half court all the time.
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Our offense is very much like a great running team in football that controls the game at the line of scrimmage until it wears out the defense. The only reason we almost beat Florida last year despite the talent differential was offensive tempo. This year we are just waiting for Silas to get in rhythm and we will be close to top 10 when the year is over.
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Where do you see top 5 in offense. We've been between 50 and 20 all season. Currently at 22. I think we could use more pace too. You can draw more fouls in a faster pace. We shot the ball the best in that PC game. It could help our 3 pt shooting, because you're thinking less. In the Providence game Jones did a 1 man fast break and scored or drew fouls everytime. We start a fastbreak then pull it out.
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This might be dictated by who we have on the court, what stage the game is in and time left. It does seem true that with Reed working on conditioning and Smith controlling the ball we play to much longer clock.
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What, so you dont think we should try to be better. We're a finished product? We're looking forward.
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We are trying to do better. That's why we practice every day.
But this dude thinks we should speed up our offense based on nothing. Did it occur to him that one of the reasons our pace is slower than average is that opposing teams take longer to get shots off against us? Our defense plays into the fact we don't have more possessions. The longer the opposing offense holds the ball, the shorter the game is for us on offense.
Hurley said he wants us out in transition more.
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Making teams defend for 25-30 seconds every possession absolutely wears them out, particularly when they’re being run off of as many screens as we run.
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Did he say to speed up the offense? No. You guys are silly.