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We can not close the deal with recruits

The Funster said:
ahh so win an NC every year or it's a failure?
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To an extent. If you are truly good enough, like Duke or UK, that's the deal. If the Pats don't win a Superbowl, it's a busted season. If you are not that good, you can be happy with Sweet 16 runs.

Don't get me wrong, with an inferior team, I'm cool with making it to the Elite Eight. But it's still less than somebody else. In sports, you are playing for 1st.

Unless you are a fan of participation trophies.
 
Well, who's saying nobody wants their team to try to be the best? Saying you want to be the best and accepting that you can't be every year is not mutually exclusive. You can still strive for perfection and still have the understanding that you're never going to achieve it. The goal is to be the very best you can be. I'm not the CEO of the largest company in the world so I suck? I reject that notion.
 
I know people will probably jump down my throat for saying this but I HATE when people here say we've had a bunch of "crappy seasons". Last yr, yes. That was a crap-fest...but we were injured.
The year before that we WON the conference tournament and won an NCAA tournament game. I don't consider that a "crappy season" Did they underperform a bit in the regular season? Sure. Would I like to win 25-30 games a year, of course. I just wouldn't call a conference title a crappy season. It was an acceptable season. How's that?

I just feel like if recruits should be able to see that losing 2 of our best 3 players last season was the reason for the bad year. Winning this coming year should help solve that issue.

It also seems like we've been the favorite of the recruit but, for different reasons, parents want something else. I don't think these are things we can control. I think if UConn were equally as close to Wilsons home as STJ we would have him. I cant speak to the Ms Mathis/SP relationship since I don't know the ins and outs, but seems like that's what won him over. I also don't know that KO and company didn't work hard - just didn't have a relationship with Ms. Mathis. That's the way it goes sometimes.
 
Huskybass said:
We deserve much better than a seven seed that year by any objective measure.
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Perhaps, but UK was an 8 seed in that tourney as well. Higher have generally easier paths, but again it's about matchups. And don't discount the fact that the Committee quite often does some 'funny' things.
 
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The Funster said:
The goal is to be the very best you can be. I'm not the CEO of the largest company in the world so I suck? I reject that notion.
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That's false equivalency. This is sports, where you have a winner or loser in every contest, in every tournament, in every season. You play the game to determine who is the champion.
In life, there is competition of a different sort, but the scoreboard is whatever you see fit to make it. In basketball, it's points, and only points.

I don't look at UCONN not winning Championships as abject failures mind you. But winning Championships is preferable to any other outcome.
 
intlzncster said:
Perhaps, but UK was an 8 seed in that tourney as well. Higher have generally easier paths, but again it's about matchups. And don't discount the fact that the Committee quite often does some 'funny' things.
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They hardly deserved that.
 
HuskyHawk said:
A bit. I thought it was over so early that it felt anti-climactic. Butler simply never found a way to score. Don't get me wrong, the defensive performance by UConn, and even by Butler, was incredible. But basketball with those kinds of shooting percentages makes for an ugly game. The Arizona game was the most enjoyable of that tournament.
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I already posted once in this thread that you are remembering it wrong.

First, UConn shot well in the 2nd half. The whole first unit was on the bench in the latter part of the first when UConn shot horribly. All the fouls chopped up the first half. Otherwise UConn played well.

Second, the game was relatively close until the final 5 minutes

Third none of the talking heads other than Coach K seemed to notice the historic defense of UConn. Arizona shot 30%, Kentucky 25%, Butler 20%

Given what happened before the NC you have to credit UConn. This wasn't a fluke because of a Butler off night. It was in keeping with the tournament.
 
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intlzncster said:
I don't look at UCONN not winning Championships as abject failures mind you. But winning Championships is preferable to any other outcome.
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This is right. Winning is better than losing. But that goes beyond the championship game. Winning in November is better than losing in November. Winning in the Sweet 16 is better than losing in the second round even if both seasons end in a loss. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition. It's a sliding scale of sorts, and while titles weigh heavily they are not the only thing weighed.
 
JeepCSC said:
This is right. Winning is better than losing. But that goes beyond the championship game. Winning in November is better than losing in November. Winning in the Sweet 16 is better than losing in the second round even if both seasons end in a loss. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition. It's a sliding scale of sorts, and while titles weigh heavily they are not the only thing weighed.
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And the corollary:

Losing to Wagner and Northeastern cancels out everything good that ever happened to UConn basketball and in the lives of those who follow it.
 
upstater said:
I already posted once in this thread that you are remembering it wrong.

First, UConn shot well in the 2nd half. The whole first unit was on the bench in the latter part of the first when UConn shot horribly. All the fouls chopped up the first half. Otherwise UConn played well.

Second, the game was relatively close until the final 5 minutes

Third none of the talking heads other than Coach K seemed to notice the historic defense of UConn. Arizona shot 30%, Kentucky 25%, Butler 20%

Given what happened before the NC you have to credit UConn. This wasn't a fluke because of a Butler off night. It was in keeping with the tournament.
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I never said otherwise. It was astonishing defense. Yes, in the prior games too.
 
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