Was Allie Over-looked?

[Fore!]

I think she could take Ash, respectfully

IMHO, not a chance.

 

[Longtime fan]

Well, with 14 players last year and 15 this year, being overlooked can happen. I thought Geno saw "possibly my next best shooter" early last year. No doubt, it was a quick hook from Geno. Being a freshman with pressure to out shoot most of the team--it was too much. Her defense needed work too.
I over looked Allie after that. AS a frosh--you get mop up!
However, now It looks to many posters that Allie worked on a few things and is "competing for time." IMHO Geno is giving Allie more leeway and wants her to shoot her way into the top 8. Who could sub for Azzi? Someone who was said to shoot--49 in a row out of 50. Many stories of her "shooting" prowess are discussed.
This year, for whatever reason, I overlooked her again. However, this last game brought her to my attention. Shooting was more confident and relaxed. She scored inside too. And her defensive stance was lower and quicker. Of course, Not in the Azzi, Ash, or KK mode. Anyway, Geno is happy about the situation as it unfolds.
He just got his BIG for next year and Allie could possibly be the shooter needed to somewhat replace Azzi. Good coaches think ahead when needed.
I heard all the great shooting stories about Allie. As a coach, I was hoping she was not a "practice player" shooting out the lights in workouts, but not hitting in games. UConn needs gamers. Allie has to believe she can do it first. I heard---Azzi is helping her in her belief.
I think Allie will get enough time to prove to Geno that she has what it takes. A little improvement on defense and her playing time goes up. Next scene is coming in on a big game when UConn needs some vital 3's. Shooting under pressure is a whole nother thing. Clutch is everyone's goal.
I am rooting for her. Geno believes it is in her. Can anyone say "Development."

Geno has said that Allie can be whatever she wants to be. I feel that if Allie can regain the confidence she had as a high school star ( now up an exponential level at UCONN ) she can be a dominating player. She has that potential. It I within her. Can she find it and let it blossom? We shall see.

 

[Rowdy831]

Allie needs to hit the court shooting a high percentage from three point land or she will find herself back in the crowd on the bench. She is not a great defender so she must to what makes her special and that is pile on the points if you leave her open to focus on one if the stars. First game she really didn't come out shooting and she found he way out of the game with little reason to come back in. She is still young and hopefully at some point she will realize her role and rise to accept it.

 

[BobbyJ]

Allie needs to hit the court shooting a high percentage from three point land or she will find herself back in the crowd on the bench. She is not a great defender so she must to what makes her special and that is pile on the points if you leave her open to focus on one if the stars. First game she really didn't come out shooting and she found he way out of the game with little reason to come back in. She is still young and hopefully at some point she will realize her role and rise to accept it.

Rewatch the game and count how many times she touched the ball in position to shoot. To save you time it was once in 6 minutes. And she took it. UConn doesn’t run ISOs for a backup SG, she has to get her shots in the flow of the offense. So how is she supposed to come out shooting?

 

[ec33]

Rewatch the game and count how many times she touched the ball in position to shoot. To save you time it was once in 6 minutes. And she took it. UConn doesn’t run ISOs for a backup SG, she has to get her shots in the flow of the offense. So how is she supposed to come out shooting?

Her problem is that if she isn't going to be left open, there is little reason to play her. As we saw yesterday, K9 has the speed to cut to get open while providing quality defense.

Allie is going to have her moments this year, she just won't necessarily be a consistent contributor.

 

[Longtime fan]

Well, with 14 players last year and 15 this year, being overlooked can happen. I thought Geno saw "possibly my next best shooter" early last year. No doubt, it was a quick hook from Geno. Being a freshman with pressure to out shoot most of the team--it was too much. Her defense needed work too.
I over looked Allie after that. AS a frosh--you get mop up!
However, now It looks to many posters that Allie worked on a few things and is "competing for time." IMHO Geno is giving Allie more leeway and wants her to shoot her way into the top 8. Who could sub for Azzi? Someone who was said to shoot--49 in a row out of 50. Many stories of her "shooting" prowess are discussed.
This year, for whatever reason, I overlooked her again. However, this last game brought her to my attention. Shooting was more confident and relaxed. She scored inside too. And her defensive stance was lower and quicker. Of course, Not in the Azzi, Ash, or KK mode. Anyway, Geno is happy about the situation as it unfolds.
He just got his BIG for next year and Allie could possibly be the shooter needed to somewhat replace Azzi. Good coaches think ahead when needed.
I heard all the great shooting stories about Allie. As a coach, I was hoping she was not a "practice player" shooting out the lights in workouts, but not hitting in games. UConn needs gamers. Allie has to believe she can do it first. I heard---Azzi is helping her in her belief.
I think Allie will get enough time to prove to Geno that she has what it takes. A little improvement on defense and her playing time goes up. Next scene is coming in on a big game when UConn needs some vital 3's. Shooting under pressure is a whole nother thing. Clutch is everyone's goal.
I am rooting for her. Geno believes it is in her. Can anyone say "Development."

I am also rooting for Allie to find stardom. But she is not going to get anywhere if she dan't drain open threes in a real game. I can't believe Geno benched her for missing her one shot ( no one hit threes for UCONN ), but what else explains it? She got in the game early. Played okay as far as I recall. And was gone.

 

[donalddoowop]

Her problem is that if she isn't going to be left open, there is little reason to play her. As we saw yesterday, K9 has the speed to cut to get open while providing quality defense.

Allie is going to have her moments this year, she just won't necessarily be a consistent contributor.

She will if she is given the chance. See how well other players score when limited to one shot. Also, Allie can do more than score from outside plus her defense has improved since last season.

 

[DefenseBB]

She will if she is given the chance. See how well other players score when limited to one shot. Also, Allie can do more than score from outside plus her defense has improved since last season.

All due respect, you have zero proof of this. What has been encouraging is Geno has seen something from Allie to sub her into games as part of the first 9 rotational players in both exhibition games and in the Louisville game. But her appearance yesterday was brief without a second half showing. Geno has said many, many times, “you can need to impact the game in more than just scoring” and we did not see that yesterday. Does that mean she won’t blossom, of course not but the reverse is also true, we (and you) don’t know with any certainty it will blossom either, just that the subbing pattern suggests Geno is seeing something to give her a chance. I have my fingers crossed and my hopes high….but as the phrase states “time will tell”

 

[ec33]

She will if she is given the chance. See how well other players score when limited to one shot. Also, Allie can do more than score from outside plus her defense has improved since last season.

Who should have lost productive minutes on Monday in order for Allie's empty minutes to perhaps pay minor dividends? She has a clear role on this team: come off the bench and make 3's at an Azzi level of shooting. When she does that, she will play. When she doesn't, Geno will find better use of those minutes.

And the difficulty with improving your defense from "unplayable" to "perhaps adequate, maybe" is that KK, Ashlynn, K9, and Blanca are all exceptional defensively.

 

[Cuango]

Allie needs to hit the court shooting a high percentage from three point land or she will find herself back in the crowd on the bench. She is not a great defender so she must to what makes her special and that is pile on the points if you leave her open to focus on one if the stars. First game she really didn't come out shooting and she found he way out of the game with little reason to come back in. She is still young and hopefully at some point she will realize her role and rise to accept it.

That game was a bad one to formulate any judgement of Allie’s performance. While it’s true that she didn’t come out and make threes, she really didn’t get much run because the game did not go that well and Geno chose, wisely I think, to go with the main core plus Kayleigh, who was very effective. Let’s give Allie a few games before we start giving up on her. I too think she will rise to the occasion but that Louisville game was not it for sure.

 

[donalddoowop]

Who should have lost productive minutes on Monday in order for Allie's empty minutes to perhaps pay minor dividends? She has a clear role on this team: come off the bench and make 3's at an Azzi level of shooting. When she does that, she will play. When she doesn't, Geno will find better use of those minutes.

And the difficulty with improving your defense from "unplayable" to "perhaps adequate, maybe" is that KK, Ashlynn, K9, and Blanca are all exceptional defensively.

How can she do that when she took only one shot. Most other players missed more shots than Allie took. How do you know K9 and Blanca are exceptional defensively except what Geno has stated? Give K9, or any other player just four or five minutes of play and see how well they do. Have to be on the floor long enough to get going. Allie can impact a game with more than just scoring. She did not play long enough to even try to evaluate her talent. I agree with Cuango's post.

 

[HuskyNan]

I am also rooting for Allie to find stardom. But she is not going to get anywhere if she dan't drain open threes in a real game. I can't believe Geno benched her for missing her one shot ( no one hit threes for UCONN ), but what else explains it? She got in the game early. Played okay as far as I recall. And was gone.

Geno didn’t pull Allie because she missed a shot. He was searching for the right lineup to play against Louisville and, apparently, felt Allie wasn’t the answer. See the thread called Louisville Game Combinations - he was shuttling players in and out, as he tends to do in the early season. He needs to know how those players perform together

 

[Dogstar]

How can she do that when she took only one shot. Most other players missed more shots than Allie took. How do you know K9 and Blanca are exceptional defensively except what Geno has stated? Give K9, or any other player just four or five minutes of play and see how well they do. Have to be on the floor long enough to get going. Allie can impact a game with more than just scoring. She did not play long enough to even try to evaluate her talent. I agree with Cuango's post.

Geno and the coaches have plenty of time to evaluate players during the practices, I don't thk he cares wht we thk after we evaluate players after 5 minutes.

 

[donalddoowop]

Geno and the coaches have plenty of time to evaluate players during the practices, I don't thk he cares wht we thk after we evaluate players after 5 minutes.

It would be foolish to think that he did. Did someone post that he cares?

 

[Bigboote]

Rewatch the game and count how many times she touched the ball in position to shoot. To save you time it was once in 6 minutes. And she took it. UConn doesn’t run ISOs for a backup SG, she has to get her shots in the flow of the offense. So how is she supposed to come out shooting?

I noticed in the preseason games how well she was moving without the ball. I didn't notice that against Louisville. I may have missed in her short stint playing, and the issue may have been that the team wasn't setting picks for her, I dunno, but something seemed different to me.

 

[Zonepress]

That game was a bad one to formulate any judgement of Allie’s performance. While it’s true that she didn’t come out and make threes, she really didn’t get much run because the game did not go that well and Geno chose, wisely I think, to go with the main core plus Kayleigh, who was very effective. Let’s give Allie a few games before we start giving up on her. I too think she will rise to the occasion but that Louisville game was not it for sure.

I find this whole narrative about AZ to be a bit nonsensical it’s not about her ability
She’s a fine player but just finds herself in a crowded roster where her minutes in meaningful games will probably be limited This is no reflection on her as a player but more of the roster. last year she got no playing time in meaningful games and it looks like this year she will get some time.
In meaningful games and SS will play close to 40 minutes
(37/38 vs louisville$ and with AS KK And it seems Kayleigh Heckel and BQ ahead of her there simply not enough minutes avaliable

 

[ec33]

How can she do that when she took only one shot. Most other players missed more shots than Allie took. How do you know K9 and Blanca are exceptional defensively except what Geno has stated? Give K9, or any other player just four or five minutes of play and see how well they do. Have to be on the floor long enough to get going. Allie can impact a game with more than just scoring. She did not play long enough to even try to evaluate her talent. I agree with Cuango's post.

I am not saying she has nothing to contribute. It is about that game not presenting the right type of opportunities.

There will be games against competitive opposition in which she scores an excessive number of points compared to her minutes played. She scores in bunches. Louisville was just not that game.

This was a game in which K9's cutting to be basket worked extremely well so that was the way to go. When that trick doesn't consistently work against high-level competition, her minutes will likely be fewer than we saw against Louisville.

That is the value of having all that depth. Being able to find the right combination to play along with the two superstars on that given night against that particular opponent. And it will change as the better teams make adjustments.

 

[Stagnant]

We went 4-26 from 3 point range in the first game. Paige and Kaitlyn Chen departed. I think Allie is potentially pretty important. If she is not in the rotation playing well; we are almost certainly a worse three point shooting team than last year. And we will have to be stronger in other ways to accomplish the goals for the season.

 

[Longtime fan]

Geno didn’t pull Allie because she missed a shot. He was searching for the right lineup to play against Louisville and, apparently, felt Allie wasn’t the answer. See the thread called Louisville Game Combinations - he was shuttling players in and out, as he tends to do in the early season. He needs to know how those players perform together

Fair point, Nan, as usual. But I keep hoping Allie is good enough, or will become good enough, to. play effectively in any UCONN line-up, against any opponent.

 

[HuskyNan]

Fair point, Nan, as usual. But I keep hoping Allie is good enough, or will become good enough, to. play effectively in any UCONN line-up, against any opponent.

She’ll get her chances, I’m sure. But Louisville has always had a very physical defense under Jeff Walz - I don’t think Allie will thrive with that kind of play

 

[UCONNRPh]

Allie needs to hit the court shooting a high percentage from three point land or she will find herself back in the crowd on the bench. She is not a great defender so she must to what makes her special and that is pile on the points if you leave her open to focus on one if the stars. First game she really didn't come out shooting and she found he way out of the game with little reason to come back in. She is still young and hopefully at some point she will realize her role and rise to accept it.

she needs to be able to take a 3 shot and if she misses, she needs to know she is not removed immediately. Needs to know she has time to get a feel of what is in front of her and then be Allie.

 

[donalddoowop]

I re-watched the game and noticed that as soon as Heckel got into the game someone passed her the ball because she was open in the corner. She shot and missed. She played a little longer but missed her next shot. She stayed in and got loose and hit her next shot while playing good defense. She got a chance to unwind. what if she had to sit after her first miss like Allie did. As soon as Allie got in the game someone passed her the ball and she shot and missed. No chance to get into the flow of the game. I wonder how well she would have done if she had been given the same opportunity as Heckel was given. Just wondering.

 

[CTBballfan243]

I re-watched the game and noticed that as soon as Heckel got into the game someone passed her the ball because she was open in the corner. She shot and missed. She played a little longer but missed her next shot. She stayed in and got loose and hit her next shot while playing good defense. She got a chance to unwind. what if she had to sit after her first miss like Allie did. As soon as Allie got in the game someone passed her the ball and she shot and missed. No chance to get into the flow of the game. I wonder how well she would have done if she had been given the same opportunity as Heckel was given. Just wondering.

Life is not fair and it never was meant to be. When they call your number you have to be ready produce whether your opportunity is 30 seconds or 20 minutes.

 

[FanSince17]

Fair point, Nan, as usual. But I keep hoping Allie is good enough, or will become good enough, to. play effectively in any UCONN line-up, against any opponent.

They all should have gotten some minutes. Middle of the third quarter and they should have touched the floor in the first half. Maybe Geno thinks he should be further along with all this at this point.
With UConn's talent, he can loosen the reigns a bit.

 

[ec33]

Maybe Geno thinks he should be further along with all this at this point.

At this point? Game 1?

Although it does seem like the rotation against higher-quality opponents has already been set (pending how Blanca changes things). And Allie is going to be the experimental instant offense where applicable.

That is 10 deep. A lot of people in contested games, although the two backup centers likely count as one conceptually.

But it is a long season.