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"Wall Potential" and "Pterodactyl" - Hurley Quotes on Samson - More Harm than Good?

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fatlucy said:
Gratuitous shot at a coach who just dragged our program out of the AAC cellar.
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And to be fair hasn't won an NCAA tourney game since arriving. It's year 5. Time to see some wins in March.
 
ConnMotors said:
Cliff Robinson had a long NBA career as a second round player. I watched that draft. He was invited but wasn't picked. Proved everyone wrong. Plus, he was a contestant on Survivor. He may not make the Hall of Fame but should get his number retired just for that feat.
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He is already in the Huskies of Honor. I will say I feel the program did not do enough to honor his passing (same with Stix).

Number retirement requires being in the basketball hall of fame (dumb) which I don't see happening for any MBB players on the horizon except Rip.
 
August_West said:
more minutes for sure, but the flipside there is a "pterodactyl" and "wall" candidate couldn't steal ANY minutes from Polley and Whaley. Something doesn't add up in some way in this.
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I don’t think there was any stealing minutes from Whaley tbh. As for Polley, he seemed like a favorite of Hurley’s. I’m not sure why he consistently got the playing time and leash he did.
 
Hurley probably spoke too soon but anyone who is 6’10, mobile, and can shoot has NBA potential. Doesn’t mean it’s likely.

It’s should be a complete non-issue, but on the boneyard once something like that gets said, it will be brought up every time someone mentions Johnson’s name until the end of time.
 
4xChamps said:
As far as I know, Hurley has only mentioned "NBA" in association with the following players:
  • Bouknight (lottery pick)
  • Tyrese (will likely be a 2nd round pick or undrafted 2 way player)
  • Andre (showing up in mock drafts - likely draft pick if he stays the course)
  • Hawkins (showing up in mock drafts - likely draft pick if he stays the course)
  • Samson
Seems like he doesnt just throw that stuff around loosely, so I'd say we give him the benefit of the doubt
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He said Sid Wilson had NBA potential.
 
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ManFromOZ said:
Like the infamous "Ferrari" quote from KO back eight years ago (can it be that long already?), Hurley seems to be out ahead of his skis with these quotes. Being up on the Gampel "Wall" takes some serious talent and body of work over time. Samson barely played which makes the "wall potential" moniker seem both outlandish and harmful by setting expectations far too high. I get the "potential" upside but one's person's potential is another's project. Feels like Samson is set up to fail if he doesn't reach these lofty projections. Seems like Hurley overhypes players. More results and less quoting and hyperbole as he enters Year 5 without a tournament win during his tenure.
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Did the “Ferrari” play in the NBA.?
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
I would love for someone to find some evidence of this, or the gaffney thing, because I’m pretty confident both are apocryphal.
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The Gaffney stuff came from Zags, and people just attributed it to Hurley. There were a few throwaway comments in some Keels/Diggins recruiting articles about Bouknight and Gaffney being the next early entrants

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Sid Wilson did happen, although the full quote was far less glowing

tcf15 said:
“I love to work with talents like Sid. He’s got a lot of layers to him, an interesting personality. One day he’s the best player, the next day you wonder if he’s hiding behind Dan [Brocke], the walk-on. Sid, right now, is the type of guy who is going to need a lot of coaching, tough love and standards because he has NBA talent. He’s 6-8, plays way above the rim, can put it on the floor, shoot 3’s, can guard any position. He just oozes talent, but sometimes when you have that type of talent you kind of coast and with my coaching style that’s not a great fit. … He has as high a ceiling as Jalen.”
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BigErnMcCracken said:
I would love for someone to find some evidence of this, or the gaffney thing, because I’m pretty confident both are apocryphal.
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I’m too lazy to do it but if anyone has the memory or energy, I’m pretty sure the Gaffney thing was from quotes from a guard we had on campus after Gaffney’s freshman year. I’m not sure the recruit specified who exactly was saying it so it could’ve not been Hurley I guess.
 
navery12 said:
Closest player is probably Hilton, but even he had 320 minutes to Samson's 60. Covid year definitely pushed Samson's minutes down though so I have high hopes for him
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We also didn't have a power forward when Hilton was a freshman.
 
Storrs South said:
He is already in the Huskies of Honor. I will say I feel the program did not do enough to honor his passing (same with Stix).

Number retirement requires being in the basketball hall of fame (dumb) which I don't see happening for any MBB players on the horizon except Rip.
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currently, 3rd in nba career oboard percentage, 1st in nba career dboard percentage, and 1st in nba career total board percentage, im betting on andre to make the hall.

and he's not even 30 years of age. what if he plays another ten years or so?
it will be statistically impossible to keep him out.
 
navery12 said:
The Gaffney stuff came from Zags, and people just attributed it to Hurley. There were a few throwaway comments in some Keels/Diggins recruiting articles about Bouknight and Gaffney being the next early entrants

www.zagsblog.com

UConn lands Class of 2021 point guard Rahsool Diggins | Zagsblog

By ADAM ZAGORIA With UConn heading back […]
www.zagsblog.com

www.zagsblog.com

Trevor Keels is hearing from a Who's Who of high-major programs | Zagsblog

By ADAM ZAGORIA Trevor Keels, the 6-foot-5 […]
www.zagsblog.com

Sid Wilson did happen, although the full quote was far less glowing
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People do understand what the word potential means right?

Ex: “Most people on the BY had potential not to be idiots when they grew up.” Just because people have potential, doesn’t mean it’s a sure thing

Not calling OP or anyone particular an idiot, make that determination for yourselves
 
ClifSpliffy said:
currently, 3rd in nba career oboard percentage, 1st in nba career dboard percentage, and 1st in nba career total board percentage, im betting on andre to make the hall.

and he's not even 30 years of age. what if he plays another ten years or so?
it will be statistically impossible to keep him out.
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2x All Star & 1x All NBA playing in a game that’s kinda phasing him out.

It will be almost impossible to put him in
 
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MDHuskFan said:
2x All Star & 1x All NBA playing in a game that’s kinda phasing him out.

It will be almost impossible to put him in
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apparently, u can't even remember what u wrote minutes before. here, i'll help:
'People do understand what the word potential means right?'
here's what i wrote:
'and he's not even 30 years of age.'
who ya got in the 2031 Kentucky derby? i want to get my bet in early.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
And yet he’s an almost remarkably boring interview. It’s bizarre.
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Interesting take.

I think the dichotomy between a constant talker and a boring interviewee, has to do with who controls the conversation.

At an interview, a person often is constrained by having to respond to specific questions raised by the interviewer. Unless, the person being interviewed , chooses to ignore the questions and goes off on a tangent.

In a non-interview situation, the talker, or in this case Hurley, controls the room or just can free flow what he wants. Like when UConn gets a commit and then Hurley's comments to the press can kind of be free flowing and a barrage of words non-stop.

Just a theory, so maybe there is another and better explanation.
 
ClifSpliffy said:
apparently, u can't even remember what u wrote minutes before. here, i'll help:
'People do understand what the word potential means right?'
here's what i wrote:
'and he's not even 30 years of age.'
who ya got in the 2031 Kentucky derby? i want to get my bet in early.
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You didn’t read what I said apparently either.

Being under 30 is cool. But going into your prime, on a statistical downswing isn’t a normal trajectory for HOF
 
It’s a waste of time and we don’t need to pay attention to what Hurley says about what players can do in the future on the floor. We all have eyes and I’m sure this fall we’ll see him in action against good teams. We’re gonna know pretty quick. Calhoun used to make these kinds of comments all the time.
 
I made my way into Werth yesterday. They're refinishing the practice floor so I didn't go in. Took these shots from the doorway.
 

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Fairfield_1st said:
I made my way into Werth yesterday. They're refinishing the practice floor so I didn't go in. Took these shots from the doorway.
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How did you get in? That place is usually locked down like Fort Knox.
 
It depends on the player. Some may aspire to meet or exceed the expectations, some may find the pressure too much. I guess we won't know until his career is done if it worked.
 
HooperScooper said:
How did you get in? That place is usually locked down like Fort Knox.
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I'd love to spin a stealthy James Bond story, but the door was left ajar and I walked in.
Here's a couple more pics.
A sympathetic coach let me into Burton, but I won't name drop and get him in trouble.
 

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ManFromOZ said:
Like the infamous "Ferrari" quote from KO back eight years ago (can it be that long already?), Hurley seems to be out ahead of his skis with these quotes. Being up on the Gampel "Wall" takes some serious talent and body of work over time. Samson barely played which makes the "wall potential" moniker seem both outlandish and harmful by setting expectations far too high. I get the "potential" upside but one's person's potential is another's project. Feels like Samson is set up to fail if he doesn't reach these lofty projections. Seems like Hurley overhypes players. More results and less quoting and hyperbole as he enters Year 5 without a tournament win during his tenure.
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The Ferrari scored 11.8 , 12.8,, and 13.8 in his three years here
He was the leading scorer on the AAC championship 2016 team and scored 17 in the loss to number 1 Kansas . He was asked to play a wing instead of his more natural 2. guarding bigger guys because of his exceptional athleticism.
If Sampson gives us that next year I will be thrilled
Purvis wasn’t the problem crazy BY expectations.we’re . Frankly if he was able to play in 2014 he would have probably been the best or second best athlete on the team.
Interestingly according to a recent interview he would have been on that team except for our suspension,
 
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