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CocoHusky said:
I give you two quick examples :

1) MM: :"We got used to beating UCONN"
2) Skylar Diggins: "We overcome the intimidation factor that was UCONN"

Of course both those were in 2013 and mostly crickets from ND since.
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Geez, after beating UConn 7 out of 8 times they weren't intimidated?? OMG, I can't believe we didn't have a witch burning.
 
CocoHusky said:
So this Championship trophy that Moriah, Stewie and Morgan is holding up is what? Fake? Stolen? Borrowed? The shirts, a misprint? The four fingers must be some kind of gang sign?

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Actually what I said is something Geno told the players when practice started this year. We are not defending anything. Nobody is taking that away from us. That is our trophy. This is a new year with a new team. Those 3 great players are showing they are the 2016 NC and the 4 fingers are 4 NC in a row. If you have a problem with what I said. It is just something Geno said and I agree with him. So send your reply to him. It is a new year with anew team,common sense. What I said is about the new year also.
 
cbraarj said:
Actually what I said is something Geno told the players when practice started this year. We are not defending anything. Nobody is taking that away from us. That is our trophy. This is a new year with a new team. Those 3 great players are showing they are the 2016 NC and the 4 fingers are 4 NC in a row. If you have a problem with what I said. It is just something Geno said and I agree with him. So send your reply to him. It is a new year with anew team,common sense. What I said is about the new year also.
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What you said that I had a problem has already been quoted and is clearly not accurate. Please go back and read what you wrote. What you think you might have said, what Geno said , and what you actually "wrote" are at least three different things-maybe four. I don't know Geno like that to take this up with him!
Hint: Unless you are using an alternate calendar we are still in 2016.
 
vowelget more tortorpodidn't guy said:
Geez, after beating UConn 7 out of 8 times they weren't intimidated?? OMG, I can't believe we didn't have a witch burning.
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We did have witch burning. It was the 2013 NC Semi-final game. It didn't get more torturous for ND than than. After all, "ND was not supposed to be intimidated".
 
Checkmate said:
Notre Dame will be good, however barring an awesome recruiting class they will not be a serious contender for a NC.
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I disagree. U Conn was getting top recruits for years. The Irish just started getting them in the last 5 years and they went from never beating the Huskies except in 2001 to beating them 3 times in one year and a few more times in the tournament. I think they work just as hard. They might not get yelled at as much lol. Stewart was the reason for the recent success. Without her they might not of won any titles in her 4 years. U Conn would of been in big trouble losing Stewart and Tuck and Geno knew it. Thats why he went against his norm and picked up 3 transfers to fill the void. Without them they had no height. The game is changing. Other teams are getting blue chips to. Not just U Conn. They got a few years head start but the gap is closing. I truly think those multiple titles and undefeated back to back seasons are gone. Parity is the future of the women's game. Turner can hang with Stevens. I take Boley and Westbeld over Camara and Butler all day long. And i like N.D. guards better as well. Why do you think that they have no shot and U Conn will be so much better then them ?
 
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I had might as well chime in. Though I think Skylar was a diva, she was and is a good player. (I also thought she was the most improved player in the WNBA before her injury.) More than being talented, she gave ND the confidence that they could beat UConn. That, combined with good coaching, their style of play, familiarity with the Huskies, some UConn weaknesses, and a little luck, helped ND to beat UConn 7 times in 8 games. No other teams had that level of confidence.

ND played a well-designed offense that created problems for UConn. They also played tough defense (as the scratches on UConn players demonstrated). The big problem for UConn, starting with Maya's last collegiate game, was stopping the dribble penetration. Once ND saw that vulnerability, they exploited it. I give them credit for the strategy and for shooting a high percentage on FTs. What ND did was to put the game into the hands of the refs to make the calls against UConn. Particularly during the stretch of 7 wins, ND got their share of calls. Many of the calls were good, as the ND player caused the UConn defender to foul. Some of the calls, particularly when Novosel was involved, were unfathomable. Flipping the ball toward the basket and falling down when there was little to no conduct was a poor was to play basketball. But if it worked and it was the best way to win, I understand it. UConn needed to defend better and also hope that the refs would call only the legitimate fouls.

ND beat UConn 7 out of 8. That's a fact. I believe that 5 or 6 of those 7 wins were 50-50 games that came down to the last possession and/or went to overtime. Kudos to ND for being mentally tough and able to win those tight games, something no one else could do.

It's also a fact that ND's last win over UConn was more than 3 seasons ago. Once the Big 3 got on a roll, neither ND nor almost anyone else could beat them. The question going forward is: How many times can ND beat UConn? Was that stretch of 8 games the anomaly? Was the reign of the Big 3 the anomaly? Keep in mind that Stanford is the only team that has a player who has played in a game that UConn has lost.

I think that ND has top 2-3 talent and coaching. I look for them to be our primary competitor, more than Baylor, South Carolina, or anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat us at least once over the next 3-4 years, especially if they sign Megatron. But I think we beat them more than half the time over the next 4 years.
 
southbendcane said:
I disagree. U Conn was getting top recruits for years. The Irish just started getting them in the last 5 years and they went from never beating the Huskies except in 2001 to beating them 3 times in one year and a few more times in the tournament. I think they work just as hard. They might not get yelled at as much lol. Stewart was the reason for the recent success. Without her they might not of won any titles in her 4 years. U Conn would of been in big trouble losing Stewart and Tuck and Geno knew it. Thats why he went against his norm and picked up 3 transfers to fill the void. Without them they had no height. The game is changing. Other teams are getting blue chips to. Not just U Conn. They got a few years head start but the gap is closing. I truly think those multiple titles and undefeated back to back seasons are gone. Parity is the future of the women's game. Turner can hang with Stevens. I take Boley and Westbeld over Camara and Butler all day long. And i like N.D. guards better as well. Why do you think that they have no shot and U Conn will be so much better then them ?
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I guess thats why they lost in the elite 8 last year! ND should worry about who is in front of them game to game. They are not in the same world as Uconn. They have won 11 NCs, I don't believe Stewart was on those teams and I think if you go back and watch she wasn't the reason they won the 4 NCs. After all, why not just go play 1 on 1 and forget about this team stuff right. As far as height goes, Uconn could field a team of 6', 6' 3", 6', 6'1" and 6' 5" this year without the 2 transfers and play ND zone with 4 guarding your 3 shooters, and Butler standing in the paint, all 6' and above, so wondering what the height comment has to do with anything.

When ND wins a few, then you can act like you're someone, but when you didn't even make the final 4 last year, I find that a little wishful thinking.

I certainly wish we Bruins had the same problems as you think Uconn have LOL.
 
southbendcane said:
I disagree. U Conn was getting top recruits for years. The Irish just started getting them in the last 5 years and they went from never beating the Huskies except in 2001 to beating them 3 times in one year and a few more times in the tournament. I think they work just as hard. They might not get yelled at as much lol. Stewart was the reason for the recent success. Without her they might not of won any titles in her 4 years. U Conn would of been in big trouble losing Stewart and Tuck and Geno knew it. Thats why he went against his norm and picked up 3 transfers to fill the void. Without them they had no height. The game is changing. Other teams are getting blue chips to. Not just U Conn. They got a few years head start but the gap is closing. I truly think those multiple titles and undefeated back to back seasons are gone. Parity is the future of the women's game. Turner can hang with Stevens. I take Boley and Westbeld over Camara and Butler all day long. And i like N.D. guards better as well. Why do you think that they have no shot and U Conn will be so much better then them ?
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Welcome. About ND beating UCONN 3 times in one year, Stewart was in those games also. BS was great but she was hardly singular. In the 4 years she wore a UCONN uniform she had 5 teammates that were or became All-American players (Dolson, Hartley, Jefferson, Mosqueta-Lewis, & Tuck). BTW BS did not leave the UCONN cupboard bare. So while you would take Boley & Westbeld over Camara & Butler. For this year I would take:
Butler over Thompson or Nelson
Dangerfield over Allen or Patberg
KLS over Boley or Westbeld
Nurse over Obungwale or Mabrey
Chong or Bent over Johnson
Jackie Young has great Potential so I'm rating equal to Collier.
Turner is best PF on either team.
The UCONN wild card will be Gabby Williams.

Other teams have always had blue chips players. The game is not changing beyond the capacity of Geno and his staff to recruit & develop elite players and win championships. Azura Stevens, Kia Nurse and KLS might already be elite players that will only get better @ UCONN. More UCONN players will reach this same status. Other teams have always believed the gap is closing, they have to believe that right? Otherwise why play the season. UCONN believes in pursuing excellence-EVERY YEAR! Parity? That is just something other teams trick themselves into believing just in case the gap hasn't closed as much as they thought. Even if there is parity like you are proposing, the shelf life of said parity is 1 WCBB season.
 
vowelguy said:
Well this thread has run its course. Time to be locked.
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I don't always agree with you, vowelguy, but when I do.... slurp, slurp!

If we can't stay on topic, which is Ms. Walker, can't we just move along? And, really, what is there possible to say about her at this point?

Only 12 hours to the U.S. Olympic women play in the quarterfinals.....Let's all think about that, hold hands, and sing "Kumbaya.'
 
msf22b said:
It's ungracious and probably flat out wrong to suggest that the ND squad works less hard than that of UConn.
During the period of ND dominance, they clearly had less overall talent, yet still prevailed.
Let's give them credit for their superlative accomplishment.
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msf22b- - -I'm not the original person that said ND works less hard than UCONN! As I quoted previously Doris Burke said "No one practices harder than UCONN, not even close!" And Doris has seen most successful Div. I teams practice for preparation for her announcer job! So she's seen ND practice as well as seeing UCONN and afterwards she states, "No one practices harder than UCONN, not even close!"
And I'd take Doris Burke's knowledge over yours any day of the week!
 
Whether Geno & UCONN get Miss Walker or not, Geno has a great track record of signing players not heavily recruited and turns them into very good players and even All-Americans and Players of the Year! Kara Wolters, Kelly Faris, Stef Dolson, Jamille Elliot, Tiffany Hayes, just to name a few. So as much as I'm hoping Miss Walker joins the Huskies, I can't wait to see which players wind up as great players after not being thought of as talented by most of the Div. I coaches!
 
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Both teams work hard. Players on both teams work hard. At UConn Geno has them working a different kind of hard. Genos philosophies are different then other coaches. Just like Wooden and Lombardi. Genos ways of teaching and developing are different. To make a comparison. I see golfers hitting 300-500 balls a day. Some rise to the top and others dont. Why? IMO its because of the teacher and his or her ability to communicate with their student/player and get them to their next level. IMO Geno has done that better then anyone because he not only gets them and maybe not all of them to their next level but he does it in a team concept. Practice doesnt make perfect. Practicing with the proper coaching and leadership does. There are alot of good coaches out there. However there is the next level and thats Genos level.
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
, Geno has a great track record of signing players not heavily recruited and turns them into very good players and even All-Americans and Players of the Year! Kara Wolters, Kelly Faris, Stef Dolson, Jamille Elliot, Tiffany Hayes, just to name a few. !
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Lol.
Faris, Dolson, and Hayes were top 20 players in HS.
 
johnnyc said:
Gotta agree with Tony. All we can go on is track record so UConn is number one until/if someone beats them and they are champions until/if someone dethrones them. So in that respect it is fair to say if any player wants to win championships they will come to UConn.
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Someone else seems to agree with Tonyc.....

More of the same: U.S. women continue dominance

But the last couple of Olympic teams bear an unmistakable resemblance to the juggernaut that resides in Storrs, Conn. The one that has won four straight NCAA national championships, and 11 overall, tying it with the UCLA men's teams heralded by John Wooden for the most Division I college titles in basketball history. The one with six undefeated seasons, including last season's 38-0 mark, and the 40-0 team of 2013-14. The one that has gone 151-5 the last four seasons.
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Sure sounds like if you want to win championships you head to Storrs, Conn.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Welcome. About ND beating UCONN 3 times in one year, Stewart was in those games also. BS was great but she was hardly singular. In the 4 years she wore a UCONN uniform she had 5 teammates that were or became All-American players (Dolson, Hartley, Jefferson, Mosqueta-Lewis, & Tuck). BTW BS did not leave the UCONN cupboard bare. So while you would take Boley & Westbeld over Camara & Butler. For this year I would take:
Butler over Thompson or Nelson
Dangerfield over Allen or Patberg
KLS over Boley or Westbeld
Nurse over Obungwale or Mabrey
Chong or Bent over Johnson
Jackie Young has great Potential so I'm rating equal to Collier.
Turner is best PF on either team.
The UCONN wild card will be Gabby Williams.

Other teams have always had blue chips players. The game is not changing beyond the capacity of Geno and his staff to recruit & develop elite players and win championships. Azura Stevens, Kia Nurse and KLS might already be elite players that will only get better @ UCONN. More UCONN players will reach this same status. Other teams have always believed the gap is closing, they have to believe that right? Otherwise why play the season. UCONN believes in pursuing excellence-EVERY YEAR! Parity? That is just something other teams trick themselves into believing just in case the gap hasn't closed as much as they thought. Even if there is parity like you are proposing, the shelf life of said parity is 1 WCBB season.
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SNAP!!! You go Coco.. :p Now drop that Mic :cool:
 
CocoHusky said:
Welcome. About ND beating UCONN 3 times in one year, Stewart was in those games also. BS was great but she was hardly singular. In the 4 years she wore a UCONN uniform she had 5 teammates that were or became All-American players (Dolson, Hartley, Jefferson, Mosqueta-Lewis, & Tuck). BTW BS did not leave the UCONN cupboard bare. So while you would take Boley & Westbeld over Camara & Butler. For this year I would take:
Butler over Thompson or Nelson
Dangerfield over Allen or Patberg
KLS over Boley or Westbeld
Nurse over Obungwale or Mabrey
Chong or Bent over Johnson
Jackie Young has great Potential so I'm rating equal to Collier.
Turner is best PF on either team.
The UCONN wild card will be Gabby Williams.

Other teams have always had blue chips players. The game is not changing beyond the capacity of Geno and his staff to recruit & develop elite players and win championships. Azura Stevens, Kia Nurse and KLS might already be elite players that will only get better @ UCONN. More UCONN players will reach this same status. Other teams have always believed the gap is closing, they have to believe that right? Otherwise why play the season. UCONN believes in pursuing excellence-EVERY YEAR! Parity? That is just something other teams trick themselves into believing just in case the gap hasn't closed as much as they thought. Even if there is parity like you are proposing, the shelf life of said parity is 1 WCBB season.
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Im not worried at all. More depth and experience. Lots of eggs in Dangerfield being super women as a rookie and KLS being more then a 3 point shooter. Can Collier stay healthy? Will Butler and Chong show up this year ? Will U Conn get any production from their bench? Lots of what ifs. N.D. has depth and experience advantage. Your post shows this. Your saying Nurse over Arike and Marina but not both together. Your saying KLS over Boley and Westbeld but not together. Allen and Patberg vs Dangerfield. See the difference? Plus a All American in Turner. We have solid replacements in every position and you dont. You wont be resting your players after the first quarter this year.Games will be more competitive. Geno and his hard practices and lack of depth will wear U Conn down. By the end of the season they will be on empty. They just dont have the balance they had in the past. And they dont have the height or the bigs that can stretch the floor and hit the outside shot or block shots. N. D. will just throw fresh bodies at them and wear them down. For once im not worried about U Conn. South Carolina and Baylor are better as well. They will still be Elite Eight or Final Four. But this could be the worst team they have had in 20 years. And they might only lose 3 games all year. That shows how great they have been for so long. I give credit to the Huskies and Geno. Just think this year someone else will win it all.You can have the mic back Coco.
 
southbendcane said:
Im not worried at all. More depth and experience. Lots of eggs in Dangerfield being super women as a rookie and KLS being more then a 3 point shooter. Can Collier stay healthy? Will Butler and Chong show up this year ? Will U Conn get any production from their bench? Lots of what ifs. N.D. has depth and experience advantage. Your post shows this. Your saying Nurse over Arike and Marina but not both together. Your saying KLS over Boley and Westbeld but not together. Allen and Patberg vs Dangerfield. See the difference? Plus a All American in Turner. We have solid replacements in every position and you dont. You wont be resting your players after the first quarter this year.Games will be more competitive. Geno and his hard practices and lack of depth will wear U Conn down. By the end of the season they will be on empty. They just dont have the balance they had in the past. And they dont have the height or the bigs that can stretch the floor and hit the outside shot or block shots. N. D. will just throw fresh bodies at them and wear them down. For once im not worried about U Conn. South Carolina and Baylor are better as well. They will still be Elite Eight or Final Four. But this could be the worst team they have had in 20 years. And they might only lose 3 games all year. That shows how great they have been for so long. I give credit to the Huskies and Geno. Just think this year someone else will win it all. You can have the mic back Coco.
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If I am jump on the mic let me quote my man KRS One!

Uhh! They don't wanna battle
They ain't ready for the battle, uh-uh, uh-uh
Listen, listen, listen
Your spirit AIN'T READY
Your church AIN'T READY
Your bishop AIN'T READY
Your deacons AIN'T READY
Your choir AIN'T READY
Your ushers AIN'T READY
At the Temple of UCONN
WE TEACH MANY!

Lesson begins here!
Someone else "might" win this year. Worst UCONN team in 20 years? Still one of the best in the country-I'll take that.
ref: See the Difference? No I'm afraid I don't. These are projected matchups Allen will be your sarting PG and Patberg will back her up. Crystal Dangerfield will "likely" be UCONN's. So Crystal doesn't have to be "super woman" (she graduated from UCONN)- Crystal just has to be better than Allen.

I can see why you admire Geno so much because he had the same development plan for KLS- being more than 3pt shooter. Since Geno is smarter than both of us he already implemented his plan. KLS is more than just a 3 point shooter. Go and check the the box score from her last three games in the NCAA tournament before she got hurt.

Bench players are bench players for a reason. The big difference between ND bench players that you will rely this year and UCONN bench players is that UCONN bench players were on the bench because they were playing behind All Americans. ND players were on the bench playing behind player that did not even make the 1st Team all ACC

About that conditioning thing and UCONN players being worn down-make like Aerosmith and Dream On. Geno has won two national championships with max rotation of 6 & 7 players. Note to self: It would be extremely cruel to remind this pupil that both of those championships were against ND and in both cases it was ND sucking wind not UCONN. :cool:

Collier played in all 38 UCONN games last year so I'm not sure what would prompt an injury concern on your part-wishful thinking?

And up next on the mic..........
 
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southbendcane said:
Im not worried at all. More depth and experience. Lots of eggs in Dangerfield being super women as a rookie and KLS being more then a 3 point shooter. Can Collier stay healthy? Will Butler and Chong show up this year ? Will U Conn get any production from their bench? Lots of what ifs. N.D. has depth and experience advantage. Your post shows this. Your saying Nurse over Arike and Marina but not both together. Your saying KLS over Boley and Westbeld but not together. Allen and Patberg vs Dangerfield. See the difference? Plus a All American in Turner. We have solid replacements in every position and you dont. You wont be resting your players after the first quarter this year.Games will be more competitive. Geno and his hard practices and lack of depth will wear U Conn down. By the end of the season they will be on empty. They just dont have the balance they had in the past. And they dont have the height or the bigs that can stretch the floor and hit the outside shot or block shots. N. D. will just throw fresh bodies at them and wear them down. For once im not worried about U Conn. South Carolina and Baylor are better as well. They will still be Elite Eight or Final Four. But this could be the worst team they have had in 20 years. And they might only lose 3 games all year. That shows how great they have been for so long. I give credit to the Huskies and Geno. Just think this year someone else will win it all.You can have the mic back Coco.
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All I can say is that Uconn for the first time in a long time has some question marks because they dont have some dominate experienced upper class-man. ND was a better team last season then this season and didnt make the final 4. With that said alot of the top teams graduated and lost top players. ND and UConn are top 4 teams. Development and team chemistry will be the difference. This is a team game and defense. I will give my analysis before the season starts. Alot of question marks for a lot of the top teams across the nation.
 
CocoHusky said:
Lesson begins here!
Someone else "might" win this year. Worst UCONN team in 20 years? Still one of the best in the country-I'll take that.
ref: See the Difference? No I'm afraid I don't. These are projected matchups Allen will be your sarting PG and Patberg will back her up. Crystal Dangerfield will "likely" be UCONN's. So Crystal doesn't have to be "super woman" (she graduated from UCONN)- Crystal just has to be better than Allen.

Bench players are bench players for a reason. The big difference between ND bench players that you will rely this year and UCONN bench players is that UCONN bench players were on the bench because they were playing behind All Americans. ND players were on the bench playing behind player that did not even make the 1st Team all ACC

About that conditioning thing and UCONN players being worn down-make like Aerosmith and Dream On. Geno has won two national championships with max rotation of 6 & 7 players. Note to self: It would be extremely cruel to remind this pupil that both of those championships were against ND and in both cases it was ND sucking wind not UCONN. :cool:

Collier played in all 38 UCONN games last year so I'm not sure what would prompt an injury concern on your part-wishful thinking?

And up next on the mic.....

Welcome. About ND beating UCONN 3 times in one year, Stewart was in those games also. BS was great but she was hardly singular. In the 4 years she wore a UCONN uniform she had 5 teammates that were or became All-American players (Dolson, Hartley, Jefferson, Mosqueta-Lewis, & Tuck). BTW BS did not leave the UCONN cupboard bare. So while you would take Boley & Westbeld over Camara & Butler. For this year I would take:
Butler over Thompson or Nelson
Dangerfield over Allen or Patberg
KLS over Boley or Westbeld
Nurse over Obungwale or Mabrey
Chong or Bent over Johnson
Jackie Young has great Potential so I'm rating equal to Collier.
Turner is best PF on either team.
The UCONN wild card will be Gabby Williams.

Other teams have always had blue chips players. The game is not changing beyond the capacity of Geno and his staff to recruit & develop elite players and win championships. Azura Stevens, Kia Nurse and KLS might already be elite players that will only get better @ UCONN. More UCONN players will reach this same status. Other teams have always believed the gap is closing, they have to believe that right? Otherwise why play the season. UCONN believes in pursuing excellence-EVERY YEAR! Parity? That is just something other teams trick themselves into believing just in case the gap hasn't closed as much as they thought. Even if there is parity like you are proposing, the shelf life of said parity is 1 WCBB season.
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UConn will be very good this year. Of that, I am certain. But Notre Dame should be right there as well. Notre Dame's bench players may sit behind All-Americans this season, we'll see.

You're right about UConn's conditioning. The vast majority of their players could play all 48 minutes if only cardiovascular conditioning was considered. But bench players enter big games for other reasons as well, such as fouls and injury. UConn's starters have been fairly immune to each recently, but that could change.

Collier played injured all season last year. Following the season she had hip surgery to fix a problem that had bothered her since high school. She is expected to be healthy for the start of this season: LINK

I do not agree with some of your matchup conclusions. Some of them seem irrelevant. For example, you compare Butler to Nelson and Thompson. First, I don't see Butler starting or playing much vs. Notre Dame (unless she makes big strides this season). I also do not expect Nelson to play either, and if Thompson sees the floor, then the game is a blowout and thus the outcome is not in doubt. Hence I think the comparison is irrelevant. Would I compare Mychal Johson to Molly Bent or Tierney Lawlor? No, because none of them would play a significant role in a clash between ND and UConn. Usually, only starters see significant minutes.

Center: Huskies will start either Butler (doubtful) or Gabby vs. ND's Brianna Turner. I give ND the nod here.

PF: Huskies start Collier (probably) vs. Westbeld or Boley. UConn wins this one, but ND freshmen sometimes play pretty well in big games. Westbeld is steady but not in Collier's league. Boley may be in the same league as Collier, but she's younger and less experienced.

W: KLS will be matched up against Mabrey. That's a good matchup, and it may depend on which shooter is hotter on that day. Remember that Marina had a great game @Uconn last season and there is no Mo Jeff to shut her down in the second half this season. Notre Dame also has Jackie Young, so she should be an excellent backup that should see meaningful minutes this season.

SG: Nurse vs. Arike. Interesting matchup. Kia was surprisingly good her freshman year and the summer following her freshman season, but she had a somewhat disappointing sophomore year. Arike was raw as a freshman and didn't pass well. On paper, UConn has the edge, especially when one considers defense. But Arike is a very dangerous offensive player because she is a slasher, and UConn has to prove that their interior defense won't suffer too much this season with the graduation of the big 3. UConn wins this one, but let's see the sophomore jump for Arike. If she can make decisions with the ball this season, she could be fantastic. Big if, of course. Young could also see minutes at the 2.

PG: Do you really think that Dangerfield will outplay Lindsay Allen this season? I mean anything is possible, but my money is on a very good senior PG over a freshman who may not even start. Do you remember Mo Jeff's freshman year? I think while your opinion may be common on the BY (although I think many would oppose it), most basketball observers would expect Lindsay to have a considerable edge.

My positional analysis shows a much closer matchup than yours. Seems to me it comes down to coaching and intangibles. It should be an exciting matchup!
 
All I can say is beating a team three times then losing the fourth for all the marbles is embarrassing.
 
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