WAB (Wins Above Bubble)

[RuffRuff]

The NET is not intended to be used this way. It is not used for ranking/seeding teams, it was created as a way to organize the teams into quadrants on the team sheet and then the resume/predictive metrics and records in quadrants are what is used to seed the teams

So are you waying the WAB is the most predictive index? What would be the point of the NET used for organizing teams if not used itself as a metric?

 

[businesslawyer]

They're obviously important. Have you seen the NET? They're 2 and we are 10. The gap there is pretty sizeable. They'll also have some chippy games left against the ACC that would probably have equivalent or better value than the remaining BE for us.

I have seen the NET. The NET rewards teams for margins. If two teams play 3 times at a neutral site, and Team A wins twice by 1 point and Team B wins the 3rd game by 20, the NET says Team B is better and that Team A’s winning the series is due to good fortune. Literally, Ken Pom has a “luck” metric that “explains” why teams win more games than their NET rankings say they should. Please post the link to the MLB, NFL or NBA standings that use total margin of points or runs to determine who deserves to be rewarded for the better season as opposed to wins and losses. If you can’t point me to where those rankings are used (other than as a predictive metric), maybe it’s time to drop it?

And yes, comparing teams across the country, mere wins and losses without adjusting for schedule isn’t fair either. What WAB and the other resume metrics to is reward wins and punish losses after adjusting them for schedule. Without caring about margins.

 

[businesslawyer]

So are you waying the WAB is the most predictive index? What would be the point of the NET used for organizing teams if not used itself as a metric?

What is wrong with you? Seriously? Again, not a single person is saying that. WAB is not a predictive metric. That’s why it’s called a resume metrics and not a predictive metric. Teams don’t make the playoffs in MLB, NFL or NBA based on how they would be predicted to do in playoffs. They make the playoffs, and get seeded, based on their actual wins and losses. That’s what a resume metrics is. It rewards wins and punishes losses adjusted for schedules but not for margins.

It’s really not that hard. And I’m getting tired of pretending that you’re not trolling.

 

[navery12]

So are you waying the WAB is the most predictive index? What would be the point of the NET used for organizing teams if not used itself as a metric?

Not at all, WAB is not predictive. It's a resume/results based metric.

The point of grouping teams by NET is that it's borderline impossible to jump back and forth between every ranking across 6 different metrics for every team to gauge if a win is good. Is beating the 30th NET team really that much better than 31st? No. But there has to be a cutoff somewhere to group them

 

[HooperScooper]

So are you waying the WAB is the most predictive index? What would be the point of the NET used for organizing teams if not used itself as a metric?

I guess you still haven’t read the article I posted.

 

[RuffRuff]

None of this stuff matters, we control our own destiny for a 1 seed.

If we are angling to jump Duke for the 1 in the East, then I get it. We'd need help.