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EricLA said:
The original "tweeter" is a guy from the Tennessee horde, so to speak. Could be Walz is floating the idea to push for a raise, or just to test the waters. Could be Tennessee is wooing him, but getting him to the alter may prove more problematic.

I feel sorry for Holly. She's not even been "fired yet". No matter what you think of her coaching, she's a human being who gave blood, sweat, and tears to that program. If this is how they take care of replacing her, shame on Tennessee. Holly deserves better. Fire her first, if that's the plan, and then go after the replacement. It's just common decency.

And by the way the timing makes no sense. Why would Walz even be talking to them? Isn't he preparing his team for the Sweet 16 with the hopes of a run to the NC? I get that people can multi task, but an ethical person would say "I will discuss when my team's season is over".
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It could also be that TN is testing the waters to see if Jeff is interested before deciding to fire Holly or not. It would be very embarrassing for them to fire her and then find that no one wants the job.
 
triaddukefan said:
1) MM is pushing 70. how many more years will she be coaching?
2) Walz and Louisville weren't second fiddle last season in the ACC
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"70? Really? Try 63."​
 
If I were a former Lady Vol player I would not take the job. UT fans are ridiculously vicious in their attacks on former players.
 
Orangutan said:
And they might not be next year. Or at least not to ND. ACC is wide open going forward.
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NC State loses Kiara Leslie and DD Rogers after this year...but Kaila Ealey, Erika Cassell and Grace Hunter (all lost to injury at various points this year) all return, Elissa Cunane will be a sophomore and we have a top 10 recruiting class coming in. The Wolfpack will be a strong contender for the conference championship next season. With FSU and Miami also young and strong, the ACC race will be interesting and not just a two-team affair as in recent seasons.
 
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oldude said:
Waltz played this game once before, shaking down Louisville for a $300 k annual raise. He just got another raise last year. His new contract pays him about $1.5 million, and it contains a buyout provision. Considering that TN is paying Holly around $800 k, and she also has a buyout, TN might be looking at something north of $4 million to get Walz. I really don’t think that’s going to happen, but sometimes universities do crazy things when it comes to coaches.
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Yeah, like giving Kevin Ollie a 10.7 million dollar buyout provision in his contract.
 
I don't see it happening. While there is undoubtedly a lot of cash to consider, the pressure on him to win the first national championship since Pat Summit's day would be huge. From day one.

More likely, he'll get a sweeter deal at Louisville and maintain status quo, which is to continue to improve Louisville's WCBB fortunes and cement his legacy.

Louisville is his only head coaching job. He's been there since 2007. They've been on a positive arc since then, culminating in last year's runner-up. They're on the cusp of winning their first national championship. I don't think he'll leave until he wins at least one.

He'll always be in demand. But for him to leave Louisville for hated Tennessee at this point in his career doesn't add up in my mind.
 
Rocket009 said:
It could also be that TN is testing the waters to see if Jeff is interested before deciding to fire Holly or not. It would be very embarrassing for them to fire her and then find that no one wants the job.
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I know there’s a lot of disappointment with the LV’s in Knoxville, but the idea that TN would leave HW twisting in the wind while they shopped around for another HC is just not something that Fulmer would do. There are plenty of coaches that would love the TN job. I’m just not sure Jeff Walz is one of them.
 
Nash83 said:
I’d get the heck out of Louisville. They are screwed in the Athletic Department for a hot minute. All the Pitino stuff. Their football program is down, men’s basketball is down. AD is cutting from every sport to save money. Heard Waltz recruiting budget got cut by 50% last year.
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Speaking of Pitino, my son says he’s as candidate for the newly available head coach’s job at Elon, per a newspaper down there @triaddukefan
 
EricLA said:
And by the way the timing makes no sense. Why would Walz even be talking to them? Isn't he preparing his team for the Sweet 16 with the hopes of a run to the NC? I get that people can multi task, but an ethical person would say "I will discuss when my team's season is over".
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I recall a certain football coach of a state university in southern New England, the day after taking his team to its highest rated bowl game ever, flying out to take a job elsewhere. I'm guessing he likely was talking to his new employees while ostensibly preparing his team for that important game. Maybe that contributed to their not doing so well?
 
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Fairfield Fan said:
Not unless Tennessee is willing to pay out upwards of $2 million a year. He has a great division I program already at a decent university. There is no attraction to his going there, or for that matter, no attraction for any top WCBB coach to go there. The name "Tennessee" means nothing to a coach already ranked in the Top 25.

Either this is a hoax, or a trial balloon launched by Tennessee. Even the language used in the tweet is strange: "prepared to lose"? What the heck does that mean?

Won't happen.
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Also, wouldn't Louisville match a $2 million/year Tennessee salary offer? Would Tennessee then up their offer? I don't know. Probably be resolved within the month.
 
EricLA said:
The original "tweeter" is a guy from the Tennessee horde, so to speak. Could be Walz is floating the idea to push for a raise, or just to test the waters. Could be Tennessee is wooing him, but getting him to the alter may prove more problematic.

I feel sorry for Holly. She's not even been "fired yet". No matter what you think of her coaching, she's a human being who gave blood, sweat, and tears to that program. If this is how they take care of replacing her, shame on Tennessee. Holly deserves better. Fire her first, if that's the plan, and then go after the replacement. It's just common decency.

And by the way the timing makes no sense. Why would Walz even be talking to them? Isn't he preparing his team for the Sweet 16 with the hopes of a run to the NC? I get that people can multi task, but an ethical person would say "I will discuss when my team's season is over".
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Seems like this happens every year with Walz. Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of desperate TN fans and a no name reporter trying to get his name out there.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Depends on how you want to define it. Louisville was 2-0 against ND last season including one absolute beat down and was the regular season and conference tournament champ. Hard to say Louisville was 2nd fiddle in the ACC. The National Championship is of course the most coveted prize.
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That's called burying the lead. ;)
And the 2017-18 season was the pinnacle for that Louisville team in the ACC, IMHO. I was one happy Irish fan when Myisha Hines-Allen graduated. As much as I admire Sam F.'s grit and determination, H-A was the player that put that crew forward (yes, she was fouled in the NCAA semi-final).

As for the "scant" returning Irish, there's not a lot of floor time there, but there is a lot of talent: numerous McDonald's All-Americans, national team players and two new talents coming in (Brunelle and Peoples). I'm sure MM will be driven crazy in practice and the sidelines early on, but they'll get better. Look forward to seeing it.
 
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Soxx said:
Based on what?? He’s built an incredible program at Louisville. Pursuing a great opportunity is part of building a successful career.
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Insightful! Intelligent. I question the financial part, U.T Vols seem like a cheap place holding on to a mediocre coach apparently reluctant to pay her off or negotiate an exit package.
 
oldude said:
Waltz played this game once before, shaking down Louisville for a $300 k annual raise. He just got another raise last year. His new contract pays him about $1.5 million, and it contains a buyout provision. Considering that TN is paying Holly around $800 k, and she also has a buyout, TN might be looking at something north of $4 million to get Walz. I really don’t think that’s going to happen, but sometimes universities do crazy things when it comes to coaches.
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Walz base salary is 1.15M
 
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jdubct said:
Also, wouldn't Louisville match a $2 million/year Tennessee salary offer? Would Tennessee then up their offer? I don't know. Probably be resolved within the month.
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Fulmer is concerned about fball, what brings in the real money and now secondarily MCBBl now that they are somewhat contenders.

TN might is getting what they paid for. Warlick gets paid 690K which is middle of the pack in the SEC & far below the non SEC annual contenders like UConn, Baylor, ND, UL. Her original contract was 565K, then she got a raise of 100K to 665K, and the 2018 extension a 25k raise to 690K. Fargas at LSU gets paid more and it's not like LSU has advanced with her. What has Taylor at GA really done? I'm not convinced TN will put up the money for a big name. TN has bigger fish to fry with fball and are still paying a ton of money for their screw ups with the coaching buyouts. Also, the big names, ie..Walz surely have a buyout clause...ie...like Geno's contract, but not as big.

1)Schaeffer - MSU - 1.596M
2)Staley - SC -1.45M
3)Mitchell - KY -1.3M
4)Blair - A&M - 1M
5)Taylor - GA - 750K
6)Fargas - LSU - 700K
7)Warlick - TN - 690k
 
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BroadwayVa said:
Insightful! Intelligent. I question the financial part, U.T Vols seem like a cheap place holding on to a mediocre coach apparently reluctant to pay her off or negotiate an exit package.
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Pay Holly? For what? Last summer's contract negotiation with Holly reflects her results these past 2-3 years - middle of the pack SEC results, middle of the pack SEC pay. If she performed better, pay would have been better.
 
Hoopz said:
Seems like this happens every year with Walz. Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of desperate TN fans and a no name reporter trying to get his name out there.
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His raise and extension last year is considered by some in the media to be the result of a Walz inspired rumor about Walz and Tennessee then. I suspect Louisville, hurting for coin, wants no part of bumping him again and that kind of money is not thouight to be in the cards in Tennessee. But, if he can work that miracle, more power to him. This could be the last year for a couple when Louisville mounts a serious tournament run.
 
Nash83 said:
Pay Holly? For what? Last summer's contract negotiation with Holly reflects her results these past 2-3 years - middle of the pack SEC results, middle of the pack SEC pay. If she performed better, pay would have been better.
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What posting did you read? Evidently, it wasn't mine. I wasn't talking per se her salary package or whether she should get a raise or not. I was talking about EXIT issues between UT Vol Nation and Holly. It appears they were reluctant to pay her off or negotiate an exit package and move on.Cheap??? If Walz wants that job fine, but I doubt it. They have a nice group to build a great team around, with the right coach.
For Walz it could be the 2nd greatest historically best team needs a coach, is that enough to lure him??
 
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Charliebball said:
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Oh, and he recently signed a long-term contract. Seems to me that the media should go back to that reporter who wrote the "prepared to lose" and ask him whether it was nonsense, and whether he feels used.
 
Different interpretations of second fiddle in the ACC has been presented. What matters is the perception by Walz. No matter what we think about him (I actually think highly of him) he has to have great confidence in himself to have the kind of success he has had. He undoubtedly looks at recent successes as confirmation of his ability, whether ND winning the NC means Louisville is second fiddle or not. He cannot be intimidated by being in a better conference like the ACC over the SEC, or being up against a great coach in MM (though I suspect Schaeffer will prove to be her equal in time). Given that he thrives on such challenges of being in a great basketball conference with other great coaches, I see the Tennessee job as something that offers him only misery instead.
 
So here's the latest. Jeff commented that the rumors were, "A slap in the face to Holly." The TN Athletic Department commented that they, "don't comment on rumors." Neither Walz nor TN denied the rumor. Furthermore, there's been no "vote of confidence" issued by the AD supporting Holly after their one-on-one meeting on Monday. I'm not very good at reading the tea leaves, but it appears that HW may be on her way out. As for Walz, It's hard to tell if he has a genuine interest in TN or more likely is simply trying to renegotiate his contract at Louisville once again.
 
I have no doubt that Jeff would have gone much further in the tournament than Holly did. The base is there for a TN to be a top 5 team. Next season (if everyone stays) they'll have 6-7 HS AA and with the addition of Horston a game changer. On the other hand Louisville next season does not look to be so formidable. Maybe it is the right time for him to jump ship...
 
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