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nwhoopfan said:
Depends on how you want to define it. Louisville was 2-0 against ND last season including one absolute beat down and was the regular season and conference tournament champ. Hard to say Louisville was 2nd fiddle in the ACC. The National Championship is of course the most coveted prize.
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That's called burying the lead. ;)
And the 2017-18 season was the pinnacle for that Louisville team in the ACC, IMHO. I was one happy Irish fan when Myisha Hines-Allen graduated. As much as I admire Sam F.'s grit and determination, H-A was the player that put that crew forward (yes, she was fouled in the NCAA semi-final).

As for the "scant" returning Irish, there's not a lot of floor time there, but there is a lot of talent: numerous McDonald's All-Americans, national team players and two new talents coming in (Brunelle and Peoples). I'm sure MM will be driven crazy in practice and the sidelines early on, but they'll get better. Look forward to seeing it.
 
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Soxx said:
Based on what?? He’s built an incredible program at Louisville. Pursuing a great opportunity is part of building a successful career.
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Insightful! Intelligent. I question the financial part, U.T Vols seem like a cheap place holding on to a mediocre coach apparently reluctant to pay her off or negotiate an exit package.
 
oldude said:
Waltz played this game once before, shaking down Louisville for a $300 k annual raise. He just got another raise last year. His new contract pays him about $1.5 million, and it contains a buyout provision. Considering that TN is paying Holly around $800 k, and she also has a buyout, TN might be looking at something north of $4 million to get Walz. I really don’t think that’s going to happen, but sometimes universities do crazy things when it comes to coaches.
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Walz base salary is 1.15M
 
jdubct said:
Also, wouldn't Louisville match a $2 million/year Tennessee salary offer? Would Tennessee then up their offer? I don't know. Probably be resolved within the month.
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Fulmer is concerned about fball, what brings in the real money and now secondarily MCBBl now that they are somewhat contenders.

TN might is getting what they paid for. Warlick gets paid 690K which is middle of the pack in the SEC & far below the non SEC annual contenders like UConn, Baylor, ND, UL. Her original contract was 565K, then she got a raise of 100K to 665K, and the 2018 extension a 25k raise to 690K. Fargas at LSU gets paid more and it's not like LSU has advanced with her. What has Taylor at GA really done? I'm not convinced TN will put up the money for a big name. TN has bigger fish to fry with fball and are still paying a ton of money for their screw ups with the coaching buyouts. Also, the big names, ie..Walz surely have a buyout clause...ie...like Geno's contract, but not as big.

1)Schaeffer - MSU - 1.596M
2)Staley - SC -1.45M
3)Mitchell - KY -1.3M
4)Blair - A&M - 1M
5)Taylor - GA - 750K
6)Fargas - LSU - 700K
7)Warlick - TN - 690k
 
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BroadwayVa said:
Insightful! Intelligent. I question the financial part, U.T Vols seem like a cheap place holding on to a mediocre coach apparently reluctant to pay her off or negotiate an exit package.
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Pay Holly? For what? Last summer's contract negotiation with Holly reflects her results these past 2-3 years - middle of the pack SEC results, middle of the pack SEC pay. If she performed better, pay would have been better.
 
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Hoopz said:
Seems like this happens every year with Walz. Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of desperate TN fans and a no name reporter trying to get his name out there.
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His raise and extension last year is considered by some in the media to be the result of a Walz inspired rumor about Walz and Tennessee then. I suspect Louisville, hurting for coin, wants no part of bumping him again and that kind of money is not thouight to be in the cards in Tennessee. But, if he can work that miracle, more power to him. This could be the last year for a couple when Louisville mounts a serious tournament run.
 
Nash83 said:
Pay Holly? For what? Last summer's contract negotiation with Holly reflects her results these past 2-3 years - middle of the pack SEC results, middle of the pack SEC pay. If she performed better, pay would have been better.
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What posting did you read? Evidently, it wasn't mine. I wasn't talking per se her salary package or whether she should get a raise or not. I was talking about EXIT issues between UT Vol Nation and Holly. It appears they were reluctant to pay her off or negotiate an exit package and move on.Cheap??? If Walz wants that job fine, but I doubt it. They have a nice group to build a great team around, with the right coach.
For Walz it could be the 2nd greatest historically best team needs a coach, is that enough to lure him??
 
Charliebball said:
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Oh, and he recently signed a long-term contract. Seems to me that the media should go back to that reporter who wrote the "prepared to lose" and ask him whether it was nonsense, and whether he feels used.
 
Different interpretations of second fiddle in the ACC has been presented. What matters is the perception by Walz. No matter what we think about him (I actually think highly of him) he has to have great confidence in himself to have the kind of success he has had. He undoubtedly looks at recent successes as confirmation of his ability, whether ND winning the NC means Louisville is second fiddle or not. He cannot be intimidated by being in a better conference like the ACC over the SEC, or being up against a great coach in MM (though I suspect Schaeffer will prove to be her equal in time). Given that he thrives on such challenges of being in a great basketball conference with other great coaches, I see the Tennessee job as something that offers him only misery instead.
 
So here's the latest. Jeff commented that the rumors were, "A slap in the face to Holly." The TN Athletic Department commented that they, "don't comment on rumors." Neither Walz nor TN denied the rumor. Furthermore, there's been no "vote of confidence" issued by the AD supporting Holly after their one-on-one meeting on Monday. I'm not very good at reading the tea leaves, but it appears that HW may be on her way out. As for Walz, It's hard to tell if he has a genuine interest in TN or more likely is simply trying to renegotiate his contract at Louisville once again.
 
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I have no doubt that Jeff would have gone much further in the tournament than Holly did. The base is there for a TN to be a top 5 team. Next season (if everyone stays) they'll have 6-7 HS AA and with the addition of Horston a game changer. On the other hand Louisville next season does not look to be so formidable. Maybe it is the right time for him to jump ship...
 
No incentive for Jeff to jump.... if rumor is true, it is just to get him more bucks at LVille.... LVille has high visibility, and Tenn has shown no indication it wants to shine in women's basketball and recapture what it previously had
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Looks like $400k for Geno then another 1.5m from other sources?
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Geno's Contract
400K designated salary for coaching + the following

Speaking, consulting, media fees....Geno has to available for up to 15 speaking engagements or media events, coaches call in shows, SNY Geno Show.
..................................................= Total
2016-17 --2M +400K = 2.4M
2017-18 --2.1M +400K = 2.5M
2018-19 --2.2M + 400K = 2.6M
2019-20 --2.3M +400K = 2.7M
2020-20 --2.4M +400K =2.8M

Bonuses:
1/2 Month salary for regular season conf title ---16,667
1/2 Month salary for conf tourney title ----------16,667
1 Month salary for making NCAA Tourney------33,333
1 Month salary for making Sweet 16 ------------33.333
1 Month salary for making Elite 8----------------33,333
1 Month salary for making Final 4---------------33,333
2 Months salary for NCAA championship-------66,666
1/2 month salary National Coach of the Year---16,667
1/4 month salary for Conf Coach of the Year----8,333

Geno's buyout was 5M and reduces by 500K each year, so even in last yr the buyout is 3M
 
Sven23 said:
Geno's Contract
400K designated salary for coaching + the following

Speaking, consulting, media fees....Geno has to available for up to 15 speaking engagements or media events, coaches call in shows, SNY Geno Show.
..........= Total
2016-17 --2M +400K = 2.4M
2017-18 --2.1M +400K = 2.5M
2018-19 --2.2M + 400K = 2.6M
2019-20 --2.3M +400K = 2.7M
2020-20 --2.4M +400K =2.8M

Bonuses:
1/2 Month salary for regular season conf title ---16,667
1/2 Month salary for conf tourney title ----------16,667
1 Month salary for making NCAA Tourney------33,333
1 Month salary for making Sweet 16 ------------33.333
1 Month salary for making Elite 8----------------33,333
1 Month salary for making Final 4---------------33,333
2 Months salary for NCAA championship-------66,666
1/2 month salary National Coach of the Year---16,667
1/4 month salary for Conf Coach of the Year----8,333

Geno's buyout was 5M and reduces by 500K each year, so even in last yr the buyout is 3M
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Who pays the media, speaking, and consulting fees? If it's not UConn then that's not really part of his salary. It would be like including the revenue from his restaurant as part of his coaching contract.
 
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hoopsfan22 said:
Who pays the media, speaking, and consulting fees? If it's not UConn then that's not really part of his salary. It would be like including the revenue from his restaurant as part of his coaching contract.
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It's paid by UConn..ie...thru many revenue sources. It comes from the SNY Tv deal, Geno show, the IMG radio deal, etc..Geno is the biggest profile coach at the University. Also, the media/charity/university alumni events Geno is required to do bring in money,exposure, etc...that drives alumni donations. People want to hang out w/ Geno at an event and/or hear him speak. UConn is getting their money's worth. 11 NC's and the highest profile WCBB program in the country also surely helps UConn in their terms of the Nike deal, over what other mid major conf schools get. The fact they link this major compensation to media events is b/c Geno & the womens program is the draw. UConn doesn't get as good an SNY deal w/o Geno, fans love the Geno Show, All Access, etc...and SNY gets really good ratings for their Womens team games and ancillary coverage.
 
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Dillon77 said:
As for the "scant" returning Irish, there's not a lot of floor time there, but there is a lot of talent: numerous McDonald's All-Americans, national team players and two new talents coming in (Brunelle and Peoples). I'm sure MM will be driven crazy in practice and the sidelines early on, but they'll get better. Look forward to seeing it.
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MM has had the Irish among the best in the country for a long time. I don't expect them to disappear. Rebuilding mode is a lot more successful for some programs than others (like UConn going undefeated in the regular season after losing Stewie, Jefferson and Tuck). Vaughn looks like a player that could be productive w/ more playing time. ND may be very good again next year but they will be losing a ton of experience and talent.

As for Louisville, I'm sure they've missed Hines-Allen this year but they haven't taken that much of a step back this year. They can't replace Durr next season but Jones, Evans, Shook and Dunham is a nice nucleus to build around.
 
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Alibi Ike said:
If I were a former Lady Vol player I would not take the job. UT fans are ridiculously vicious in their attacks on former players.
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True in Holly’s case, but I think if Kara Lawson wanted the job, Fulmer and Vol Nation would probably welcome her with open arms. She would be a welcome change. It would not surprise me at all if Walz takes this job.
 
Scoop said:
True in Holly’s case, but I think if Kara Lawson wanted the job, Fulmer and Vol Nation would probably welcome her with open arms. She would be a welcome change. It would not surprise me at all if Walz takes this job.
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Yes, of course they would welcome her in the beginning, but after 3 or 4 years and no final four, the vicious attacks on her by some vocal internet UT fans would begin.
 
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dtbtbtb said:
He does recruit every 12 years old basketball player in the country :)
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They guy gets tons of kids to show up in Louisville, then sees a third of them leave. But he keeps just enough to be very competitive.

Coach Geno, on the other hand, is very targeted in his recruiting, and doesn't go after anyone he doesn't really want.
 
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