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A huge come-back win from 14 points down. Absolutely loved the dawgs in them. Diarra and Reed were huge in back2back key defense possessions that put Huskies up for good.
This game should put Reed vs Samson debate to rest.
Reed has been inconsistent and that's the issue. Sometimes he plays hard and smart, other times he plays uninspired, and not so smart. Certainly, a consistent Reed is the need. An inside out game with balance and that is not overly reliant on the 3 ball puts this team in position to be much more effective.
 
Plenty to take from that - he faced solid pressure, even got trapped once, but did not turn it over.

Given our PG play since Diarra's been hurt, that was pretty big.
I don't see anything positive about Nowell at this stage of the season. He got blown by twice with ease by Villanova players; missed his 1 shot that was not in the flow of the offense. He dribbles too long near midcourt instead of moving the ball.
 
He'll be 23 when next season starts. If he's going to go pro, it's time, even if it's 2nd round. And what @JustbrewitMan said.
Well that 2nd round possiblity is becoming increasingly unlikely by the day. Which is why I think he'll be back, something I didn't think was a possibility a few weeks ago. Not to mention it's a huge hole on the roster
 
I don't see anything positive about Nowell at this stage of the season. He got blown by twice with ease by Villanova players; missed his 1 shot that was not in the flow of the offense. He dribbles too long near midcourt instead of moving the ball.
Yeah, I’m in the same boat. If you want to tell amazing value giving Hass rest, that it a low bar. He didn’t really show me anything that some other frosh PG couldn’t do. 100% uneventful minutes. I found him to be kinda unsmooth looking to he honest.
 
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Well that 2nd round possiblity is becoming increasingly unlikely by the day. Which is why I think he'll be back, something I didn't think was a possibility a few weeks ago. Not to mention it's a huge hole on the roster
Really is wild to consider. Mixed feelings on it.
 
Remember back in October when we were all saying that depth was a key strength of this team? Seems like a long time ago.
 
AK has taken over 500 threes in his career and is a 37.5% shooter. Of course he’s trending down but I don’t think a 47 shot sample size is going to wipe him off draft boards in a class bereft of floor spacers
 
I’m a big Reed guy and have been advocating for more of him but don’t the advanced metrics say most of our best lineups are with Johnson? @auror maybe you can weigh in?

I just wonder if the staff sees something we don’t because Reed is that dude!
Reed had a huge game and played well tonight but it seems everyone seemed to forget that he's had a very bad stretch where he's played poorly on defense, soft on offense and struggling with foul trouble, resulting with him sitting instead of playing. .

When he plays like a Grizzly Bear, he's truly a beast, but he still hasn't shaken his tendeny of playing passively.

Now I do agree the coaching staff hasn't done a consistent job of drawing up some offense that gets him the ball in the paint more often.

I'm curious to see how this plays out down the stretch and if Tarris reverts back to the Teddy Bear or plays from this moment on as the Kodiak Bear.
 
I skimmed the comments, but not sure anyone commented on how great the late clock play was compared to other efforts this season. Nova had a guard on Karaban, we used Karaban to set the screen. They didn't want to switch that dude on to McNeeley, so McNeeley got downhill. Drew the help, found Reed early before the defender could get the passing lane. Just A+ execution.
 
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…it’s just that the recruiting and roster building was being done with the assumption that he’d be a Pro next year.
Transfer / Adams
Ball / Furphy
Mullins / Ross
Karaban / Stew
Reed / Reibe

if Alex isn’t the starting PF next year then we need to get 2 starters out of the portal. Alex can go back to being the fifth leading scorer and glue guy.
 
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I did but the whole team played poorly in the first half. He played great D in the second half and he is clearly the most athletic wing we have. In comparison I have seen nothing from Ross to even warrant 2 minutes. He is clearly playing a level above his skillset. I don't feel that way about Stewart. He just needs more confidence and able to play through his mistakes.
I don’t feel that way about Stewart either. I would love to see him play to his ability bc we’d be a much better team if he did, and agree with others he has a lot in his bag.

I just don’t think what’s lacking is a freedom to play through mistakes. He’s seventh on the team in minutes and over the last ten games coming into tonight, averaging 25mpg, all starts. He’s not the only one, but he just didn’t contribute with enough consistency during that stretch and at times has been unplayable defensively (besides the Dixon round one anomaly). Checks in tonight and commits a careless live ball turnover and immediately lets up an offensive rebound off a mixed box out. I think the same could be said for a few others, but with Stewart it feels more like a need to be focused, locked in defensively and consistently playing with the same toughness he showed grabbing the rebound for a put back late in the second half.
 
I suppose - he picked up his dribble once that lead to freneticism. The rest was nice but didn’t see much that said, now that guy is our PG of the future.
I didn’t either but like him and think we need a larger sample size to judge what his role longer term looks like. That time he picked up his dribble at halfcourt was bc he was bumped twice by the defender in literally his first minute handling the ball in over a month. He proceeded to pass out of the double team, something I’m not sure how often we get elsewhere. Just feels like our best shot at successfully getting Diarra some backup minutes, if only a couple each half.
 
Well that 2nd round possiblity is becoming increasingly unlikely by the day. Which is why I think he'll be back, something I didn't think was a possibility a few weeks ago. Not to mention it's a huge hole on the roster
These are the first half dozen mocks I looked at that were updated w/I last 10 days. AK was in all of them, 4 had him late in 1st.

SI 28
ESPN 29
Tankathon 30
NBA Draft Room 31
BleacherReport 34
NBADraftNet 49
 
I saw the last 10 minutes originally and just got done with the rewatch.

Like others have said, it’s bizarre that we haven’t been pushing Reed this season. Easily one of our best players.

McNeeley would easily be All-Big East 1st team if he was healthy

Don’t care about Karaban’s 3 point slump because he still does little things great and gets easy buckets at the rim

Solo with 6 assists and no turnovers is AMAZING. Want him to keep tapping into his playmaker abilities.

Diarra continues to be a warrior.

Mahaney continues to be bad.

Nowell should get more minutes and was not bad. It’s hard for him to show much of anything in one 3 minute stint. Hurley pointed to the bench as soon as he missed one 3.

I’m not sure what Ross did that was so bad to not go back in the game. He missed one contested layup trying to be aggressive and got pulled. That’s the kind of thing that makes a player timid and not want to try and make plays.
 
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He does foul too much and he's had some brutal calls go against him recently, he also gets lost too much on defense but the good and the things he provides that nobody else on the roster provides far outweighs the bad. Last game was inexplicable. Seton Hall has no bigs and Reed had no fouls, Hurley just decided I'm not playing him today unless I'm forced to. And when Hurley does play him there has been very little emphasis on getting him the ball.
Yes. His rebounding alone far outweighs the bad and at times he’s unstoppable on the block. He needs touches.
 
When teams are switching heavily, Reed becomes the much better option (see tonight, Memphis game, St. John's, I believe DePaul as well). He can punish a switch/mismatch much better than Samson. And in switching games, our flowing offense grinds down. When our offense is allowed to work without switching, Samson has the edge.
Mismatches work both ways. It was painful watching Solo try to keep Dixon from posterizing him, when he and Tarris could have switched if either had a clue. Just very little coordination out there.
 
I don't want to sound over dramatic, but losing a game like that tends to be part of a bigger spiral, maybe that 27-6 game ending run saved the season

Can we take those past 10 minutes and bottle it?

Gross 30 minutes.
Promising 10 minutes.
 
Transfer / Adams
Ball / Furphy
Mullins / Ross
Karaban / Stew
Reed / Reibe

if Alex isn’t the starting PF next year then we need to get 2 starters out of the portal. Alex can go back to being the fifth leading scorer and glue guy.
I think the hope is Stew can handle the PF position next year with Abrahams backing him up.
 
I saw the last 10 minutes originally and just got done with the rewatch.

Like others have said, it’s bizarre that we haven’t been pushing Reed this season. Easily one of our best players.

McNeeley would easily be All-Big East 1st team if he was healthy

Don’t care about Karaban’s 3 point slump because he still does little things great and gets easy buckets at the rim

Solo with 6 assists and no turnovers is AMAZING. Want him to keep tapping into his playmaker abilities.

Diarra continues to be a warrior.

Mahaney continues to be bad.

Nowell should get more minutes and was not bad. It’s hard for him to show much of anything in one 3 minute stint. Hurley pointed to the bench as soon as he missed one 3.

I’m not sure what Ross did that was so bad to not go back in the game. He missed one contested layup trying to be aggressive and got pulled. That’s the kind of thing that makes a player timid and not want to try and make plays.
He wasn't that good on D. Ross really gives us next to nothing when he comes in. It should only be Stewart coming off the bench to play SF/PF/SG.
 
Crowd was late arriving but great. I think the early start was the cause of the late arriving crowd. Traffic was worse than usual. Could be that rush hour hadn't completely thinned out.
 
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Yes - that's actually exactly when the momentum changed. Our energy level picked up. AK isn't naturally emotional, but he was very flat today, like he's letting his shooting woes affect everything else. He had several opportunities to dive on a loose ball or give us a spark.

That play was in the second half where there was a loose ball and Alex bent over to get it and the Nova player dove for the ball and k locked it loose. Eventually was OOB on Stewie but Alex absolutely mailed in that play.
It just required someone whose first instinct is to get possession of the ball at all costs.
 
We actually played fairly well on D in the first half, Nova just made a bunch of shots.

We actually played well on O in the first half, we got exactly the shots we wanted, most wide open, and simply missed them.

That’s been the story of most of our losses, contrary to popular opinion.

Great comeback. Good on us for not quitting until the law of averages came around. Eventually teams will stop making everything, while we simultaneously pick those stretches to be ice cold (making it look like we’re “playing poorly” because the other team built a lead). And hopefully in the tournament, teams will not get the nightly confidence boost of knowing they can do whatever they want on D.

Hurley’s stubbornness has contributed to some of our struggles. Reed should be getting comfortable with the bulk of the minutes and Samson should be back where he’s more comfortable - energy guy off the bench and change of pace against bigs who have been battling a beast, now having to guard a grasshopper. Precisely what worked to our advantage last year.

And he keeps shoehorning Mahaney into the PG spot and then benching him because he’s not executing. He is better than Joey C, and could be helping the team so much in that same role, but instead he’s become an overthinking shell of his former self that no longer contributes anything. That’s on Hurley. I love him as our coach and he’s great, but he’s not infallible and has clearly made some mistakes this year.

Thank goodness they pulled out the win. Team really needed that boost going into NYC on Sunday, and it also proves this team is not the same as those Ollie-adjacent teams that people keep referencing, who would have lost this game by 20+.
 
I turned it off, down 14, there’s only so much I can take, but I’m glad we got the W.
The stress is very difficult to take. We know it’s only a basketball game and we shouldn’t let it tear up our insides but there are no casual fans here. For Hurley every game is a life or death struggle. Still searching for a coping strategy.
 
It's college basketball, body and game wise he's perfectly suited to play the 5
Tarris struggles w guys taller than him. He has slow feet defensively and tends to foul to compensate. Just rewatch the creighton game and tell me he is a five. He was great last night because for some reason they wanted Dixon to play down low in the second half. That’s a great matchup for Tarris and he showed it. That’s not every game.
 
Gutting comeback win for sure. Nowell does look like the only guy who might be able to spell Diarra for a few but he still looked like a deer in the headlights to me. The people asking for more minutes for Stewart and Ross particularly last night - i get it but can you imagine what a loss last night would have done to this team. When you enter a game like this, you cannot turn the ball over immediatly or you are coming right back to the bench. Better players have longer leashes. Reed is a man on the floor. I really would like to see him get some touches at the low post. He just looks like a classic successful back to the basket guy. His strengths don’t get used if a clear majority of his touches come above the foul line. As for Karaban - no criticism from me. He does so many things to help his team even without the 3 point shot.
 
Tarris said he was going to start bringing the Kodiak vibe. He did.

Great team win. Hass playing hurt (as was Tarris) and still impacted outcome of the game.

Let's make our run(s) early at MSG and control the game on Sunday.
 
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