Villanova Fires Kyle Neptune

[RuffRuff]

They're in the B10, in Chicago, and have an elite alumni pool. If they don't have NIL now, they should be able to get it.

I doubt they go for one of our assistants - NW will likely land some coach in the puritan coaching tree, like Nova would do with Collins. Schools like that care as much about image as winning. Nova fans at MSG all feel like they rolled there from a massage at the country club. If a program wants to win they’d grab guys like Beard, who is a bad@ss but comes with reputational warts.

I can totally see Collins at Nova. Hadn’t thought of it but it makes total sense.

 

[Agent0]

Pete Thames mentioned Richard Pitino, Kevin Willard and Ryan Odom

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Pete Thames mentioned Richard Pitino, Kevin Willard and Ryan Odom

Baby Pitino in the Big East would be really fun to watch tbh

 

[RuffRuff]

Baby Pitino in the Big East would be really fun to watch tbh

Yeah it would - just don’t know which school is the right fit. A PC if English flames out could be interesting. Or maybe it’s the StJ succession plan.

 

[Zissou]

Norlander confirmed. Thank god... best thkng to happen to Nova ball since Jay left.

The whole waiting to retire so your hand-picked former-player replacement gets the job is such a stupid move every time. Cocky HOF coaches always think they know best and don't... Calhoun included.

I’m not sure Jay picked Neptune

 

[Zissou]

I think Odom and Collins would be leading candidates

 

[RuffRuff]

I’m not sure Jay picked Neptune

Who are the Nova fans hoping for?

 

[Agent0]

I think Odom and Collins would be leading candidates

Nova can do better than Collin’s imo

 

[Zissou]

Hiring a college basketball coach is costly. Just not in the way it used to be.

In talking with people from across the industry who are involved in discussions among schools, coaches, agents and search firms, a theme has emerged.

www.usatoday.com

 

[auror]

From my understanding of mixed Trilly tea, Kimani is angling hard for VCU. It's unclear if they have interest in him, but Odom is either going Nova or UVA, so the job will be open either way.

 

[husky429]

From my understanding of mixed Trilly tea, Kimani is angling hard for VCU. It's unclear if they have interest in him, but Odom is either going Nova or UVA, so the job will be open either way.

Odom would be a dream hire for Nova. The guy can coach

 

[CL82]

Calhoun wasn't perfect but he earned that right and set up Ollie with a staff, Blaney stayed on in the tourney ban year. It's easy to be a genius in hindsight. Would you have trusted Jeff Hathaway to hire the next coach?

The real question is do we win the 2014 national championship with a different coach? I'm not sure that we do. KO was the right guy for that year. The problem is he was the wrong guy for every year afterwards.

With the benefit of hindsight, that's probably because he benefited from Jim Calhoun developing the players, notably, Shabazz Napier. But after the championship season, he seemed disinterested in putting in the effort and wanted to distance himself from Jim Calhoun, two fatal mistakes. In many ways, he's the "anti-Hurley".

As long as we delving into alternative realities, if KO doesn't get the job, it probably goes to Shaka Smart, who was lobbying heavily for it. He's a really good coach, but is he as good as Dan Hurley? I don't think so. so in the end, everything, including the miserable KO seasons, worked out for the best.

 

[UCann]

I would want exactly 0 single person tobe trusted to hire a head coach. I would never hire a coach to do it especially. Too many blind spots.

Hiring for ANY important job should be a team effort with many stakeholders involved.

I find teams often end up making selections to appease everyone. No bold selection will come out of a team, less risk, less upside.

 

[superjohn]

I doubt they go for one of our assistants - NW will likely land some coach in the puritan coaching tree, like Nova would do with Collins. Schools like that care as much about image as winning. Nova fans at MSG all feel like they rolled there from a massage at the country club. If a program wants to win they’d grab guys like Beard, who is a bad@ss but comes with reputational warts.

I can totally see Collins at Nova. Hadn’t thought of it but it makes total sense.

Bad@ss coach you mean, right?

He sure doesn't sound like a bad@ss guy.

Nova is one of the best jobs in the country. I expect they'll nail their do over.

 

[huskyjawz]

The real question is do we win the 2014 national championship with a different coach? I'm not sure that we do. KO was the right guy for that year. The problem is he was the wrong guy for every year afterwards.

With the benefit of hindsight, that's probably because he benefited from Jim Calhoun developing the players, notably, Shabazz Napier. But after the championship season, he seemed disinterested in putting in the effort and wanted to distance himself from Jim Calhoun, two fatal mistakes. In many ways, he's the "anti-Hurley".

As long as we delving into alternative realities, if KO doesn't get the job, it probably goes to Shaka Smart, who was lobbying heavily for it. He's a really good coach, but is he as good as Dan Hurley? I don't think so. so in the end, everything, including the miserable KO seasons, worked out for the best.

I agree. Shaka may have brought it home in 2014, and he wouldn't have failed after that, so he would still have the job, and we would be good, but not back to back championship good.

 

[UCTitleTown]

I don't think Villanova is hiring a first time head coach. If K or L want a high level job, they need to take a job somewhere else and get that headcoaching experience. Villanova can't afford to fail with another hire after the job Jay Wright did there. Very similar to UConn getting Dan Hurley after the KO fiasco.

 

[giddyup]

Bummer - he was terrible.

 

[Scoe]

Your posts on this topic have gotten more ridiculous over time.

UConn was in a hellhole of a conference. If UConn had joined the Big East when it split, Ollie would have kept UConn very competitive.

Alterique Gilbert was a McDonald's all American, still got Daniel Hamilton, and Purvis to transfer, he was still getting talent, of course not at the level if we were still in the BE. It was a hell hole of a conference and Ollie fell off both things can be true.

 

[metsfan2323]

Your posts on this topic have gotten more ridiculous over time.

UConn was in a hellhole of a conference. If UConn had joined the Big East when it split, Ollie would have kept UConn very competitive.

In that case thank God for our time in the AAC. The thought of Ollie still being our coach and Hurley at Pitt is a nightmare.

BTW, apparently nobody in a hiring position in college basketball shares your opinion. Truth is a good coach at UConn should have dominated the AAC, instead Ollie brought us to the bottom of that conference.

 

[Boost'ED]

Nova can do better than Collin’s imo

So true.


I don't know why Collins is a viable candidate for Villanova?

He's been a .500 coach for his career.


Yes, I understand it's Northwestern but consider we're talking about the B10 (overrated conference).

He's been there 11 years, and you would think somebody would have poached him by now,


Odom is a much better candidate.

 

[Scoe]

Btw when you win multiple national championships you have earned that right to hire the next HC. It's hard to find THE GUY who may not even be available it takes a bit of luck. If the hire wins right away then it was the right hire if there's no long term stability then it's on that coach not the guy who hired you.

 

[cwh20]

Everyone is so convinced that a 2014 championship would have happened with various coaches, including KO? That’s crazy. UConn was a 7 seed that won their first game against St Joe’s in OT after Brimah’s three point play in the last seconds of regulation (thanks Amida!!). UConn sure was great after that though. I wouldn’t count on that happening again if you could rerun the season and tournament from scratch.

 

[PNolanFan]

My pick would be Tony Skinn from George Mason, has seemingly improved that program real fast, took over and now has them in first place in the A-10 after two seasons. Young, big east ties when he was an assistant at seton hall. Seems like a winner and already recruits the area

 

[Umami Zen]

Unrelated to Nova/Neptune but related to prospective coaches that could be on the move. Drake Coach Ben McC is being mentioned as a potential candidate in the Indiana job. Interesting if true because of its potential impact on any Stirtz portal decision

 

[RuffRuff]

So true.


I don't know why Collins is a viable candidate for Villanova?

He's been a .500 coach for his career.


Yes, I understand it's Northwestern but consider we're talking about the B10 (overrated conference).

He's been there 11 years, and you would think somebody would have poached him by now,


Odom is a much better candidate.

Image - school won two titles under a straight arrow Don Juan, and enjoys feeling classy. I mean look at Neptune - what in the world were his credentials other than fitting an image?

I’m guessing Collins will be their guy. Gut feeling.