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She has gotten far and away the best TV deal for any conference not playing FB. Better in fact than some conferences that play FBS football. No other school in the conference seems unhappy about the job Val has done. No other school in the conference plays FBS football. Maybe our frustrations should be toward our leadership, that can't get us into a better conference where we fit better, but they always get the "what else can they do," pass.
I'm an outsider here but I think she's done what she can do so far ... short of filing a lawsuit which might be a long shot and counterproductive.

Actually this raises a question with regard to a subject about which I know nothing. How much does UConn get from TV broadcasts or streaming of home football games and away games?
 
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Yes, and most of the Big East programs are on their knees thanking Val. I'm sure all the new additions are extremely grateful. UConn is the outlier square peg so of course we aren't happy.
i think UConn is unique in that it has two basketball programs that get numbers as good or better than a majority of the other schools mens programs.
Does anyone believe were compensated for that fact?

Val did a decent job with the contract in fact it opened eyes to basketball potential.
But her job has been a walk in the park compared to with other Commissions have had to deal with .
The AAC lost its 7 top programs but is still doing pretty well
although their pretty fat with cash in the short term.
poor CUSA has been destroyed and rebuilt a number of times
The Pack commissioner failed miserably in the face of disaster. ,and the MW is in turmoil as the new PAC poaches it.
Do you think Val could handle that kind of adversity that these conferences have faced.?
She has only one poachable program, for now ,and she has done nothing to keep us. It seems her plan is everything is going pretty good so I won’t rock the boat .
Thats never a great plan for long term success
 
lol. You don’t understand how this stuff works. I have a friend in the same business I am working to close on the sale of his company for $75,000,000. He does the same thing I do in terms of interviews and press releases. He always has. You have to work at it to create an image.

This isnt fantasy. You have your assistants hit the phones and send emails to radio shows, podcasts etc and say “Val wants to talk about the recent developments in college sports and how the Big East intends to compete”. It’s necessary.
I completely understand how it works, which is why I understand why the Big East is in a position of weakness vis-a-vis the power conferences. People are placing blame erroneously. For those thinking Val is so incompetent, I'll quote the great Stephen Stills:

"If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with."

 
Oh yeah...some of my favorite philosophers are musicians...

The Stones..."you can't always get what you want...but if you try sometime, you'll find that you'll get what you need."

And the last year I have been humming Ferlin Husky"s.."If you don't believe that I'm leaving you, just count the days I'm gone".

Back to Val...the focus has been on the P4 and they are perceived as the national college sports policy movers and shakers. Sure..when Sankey talks, it is an event.. Might have national implications. My feel from a region far removed, is that there is a delineation in media demand between a national voice and what may be perceived as a regional voice...
 
Actually this raises a question with regard to a subject about which I know nothing. How much does UConn get from TV broadcasts or streaming of home football games and away games?
UConn gets $500,000 a year from CBS Sports. The big thing is that we got a football TV contract on linear TV.
 
Oh yeah...some of my favorite philosophers are musicians...

The Stones..."you can't always get what you want...but if you try sometime, you'll find that you'll get what you need."

And the last year I have been humming Ferlin Husky"s.."If you don't believe that I'm leaving you, just count the days I'm gone".

Back to Val...the focus has been on the P4 and they are perceived as the national college sports policy movers and shakers. Sure..when Sankey talks, it is an event.. Might have national implications. My feel from a region far removed, is that there is a delineation in media demand between a national voice and what may be perceived as a regional voice...

Learned college basketball fans consider the Big East a major basketball conference. The networks have continually referred to the Big East as a major basketball conference. This isn’t about Val being on par with Sankey. It’s about informing the public that the Big East is a big boy conference paying big boy money. If you don’t try to control that narrative, you are irresponsible. The image has to be kept up so that players and fans respect the Big East brand.

Billybud is a perfect example of why this matters. He is saying nobody cares outside the Northeast. That’s not the issue. They may not care but they should know that when they lose a recruit to a Big East school, it’s because the Big East is legit. It pays well and it wins titles. If people start thinking we pay like a mid major well——-we all know perception is reality.
Nobody cares about the SEC in the Northeast either.
 
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There is no other Major conference that doesn’t play FBS football. There isn’t an apples to apples comparison. And we can only guess what their basketball valuations really are. So this isn’t much of an achievement.

She should be launched into the sun for being a totally useless and invisible leach.
I don't think she is great, like I don't think any of these people are great. Is Sankey great because he is selling Alabama and LSU and not Baylor and TCU? I don't think any school in the Big East would get more money in any other league besides UConn. I don't think there is anything else to judge her on. The presidents of Butler, DePaul, Seton Hall etc, must absolutely love her.
 
Because everything was falling apart around him.
he did have schools use the AAC as a stepping stone to P4, so the AAC must have been doing something right.
 
I don't think she is great, like I don't think any of these people are great. Is Sankey great because he is selling Alabama and LSU and not Baylor and TCU? I don't think any school in the Big East would get more money in any other league besides UConn. I don't think there is anything else to judge her on. The presidents of Butler, DePaul, Seton Hall etc, must absolutely love her.
I recently saw some click bait article ranking Athletic Directors. Of course all the Big 10 and SEC guys were there. David Benedict was not. I am sure our AD Benedict's job is significantly more difficult and that he is doing a much better job than any of those P AD's.
 
The sports media wouldn't care what she had to say anyway. It's a great BB conference but not a player as an overall conference.
It’s not actually. It has 1 great team and a few good ones but also has a bunch of absolute dreck. Or did you not realize that Seton Hall Butler, Georgetown and DePaul are in the league.
 
Learned college basketball fans consider the Big East a major basketball conference. The networks have continually referred to the Big East as a major basketball conference. This isn’t about Val being on par with Sankey. It’s about informing the public that the Big East is a big boy conference paying big boy money. If you don’t try to control that narrative, you are irresponsible. The image has to be kept up so that players and fans respect the Big East brand.

Billybud is a perfect example of why this matters. He is saying nobody cares outside the Northeast. That’s not the issue. They may not care but they should know that when they lose a recruit to a Big East school, it’s because the Big East is legit. It pays well and it wins titles. If people start thinking we pay like a mid major well——-we all know perception is reality.
Nobody cares about the SEC in the Northeast either.

In the basketball universe you are correct...In the football universe, the Northeast is rarely thought of.

We may have a split off...football...and then basketball....
 
In the basketball universe you are correct...In the football universe, the Northeast is rarely thought of.

We may have a split off...football...and then basketball....
Well, we are talking about basketball and the Big East so….
 
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In the basketball universe you are correct...In the football universe, the Northeast is rarely thought of.

We may have a split off...football...and then basketball....
I wasn’t aware that I went to school in the Midwest. I guess we’ll have to return our 35 Lambert Trophies…
 
I wasn’t aware that I went to school in the Midwest. I guess we’ll have to return our 35 Lambert Trophies…
You know, I hear people refer to PSU as a northeastern University, but also Midwestern and Mid-Atlantic.

I thought only eastern PA (aka Philly corridor) was considered NE. PSU wouldn't be a northeastern U in my book
 
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You know, I hear people refer to PSU as a northeastern University, but also Midwestern and Mid-Atlantic.

I thought only eastern PA (aka Philly corridor) was considered NE. PSU wouldn't be a northeastern U in my book
No one that went to Penn State considers it Midwest. That is why there was twenty plus years of discontent before other Eastern Schools started being added. In a perfect world Penn State would be in a real Big East Conference with other bell cows like Miami and ND who also might not “geographically” be NE but identify with it far more than they do the Midwest or Deep South.

Big East 2025

BC
UConn
Cuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
VPI
ND
Navy
USF
Miami

Multiple historic rivalries and blood feuds up and down the lineup. Add St John’s, Nova, Providence, and Gtown as Non Football Members to flesh out the basketball season. Plenty of easy road trips and plenty of overlap between fan bases. This would make tons of money and be a heck of a lot of fun therefore it will never happen.
 
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I wasn’t aware that I went to school in the Midwest. I guess we’ll have to return our 35 Lambert Trophies…
I grew up in PA (Lehigh Valley). I would definitely say eastern PA (Lehigh Valley and Philly area) are simultaneously northeast and mid-Atlantic. I wouldn’t call central and western PA the northeast. It’s technically not the Midwest, but culturally it fits in much more with the Midwest than the northeast.
 
I grew up in PA (Lehigh Valley). I would definitely say eastern PA (Lehigh Valley and Philly area) are simultaneously northeast and mid-Atlantic. I wouldn’t call central and western PA the northeast. It’s technically not the Midwest, but culturally it fits in much more with the Midwest than the northeast.
Central PA may not feel like the Northeast, but that doesn't mean Penn State isn't a Northeast school. In my opinion, the number of students, alums and fans in eastern PA, NJ, NY and even CT, makes Penn State a Northeast school.
 
Can’t help but notice that all kinds of conference commissioners are being interview and making appearances to talk about the house settlements…including a panel where the four P4 commissioners and the commissioner of the not-even-a-conference yet Pac12 appeared to talk about it.

Missing - Val Ackerman.

She’s useless and she’s absolutely the spirit animal of this conference’s admin from top to bottom. They do not care.

Maybe it's best to stay quiet if the Big East really does have a competitive advantage...

I wouldn't say shhhhhit. lol

P.S: I know UConn fans weren't around when the NBE was relaunched and prob didn't care to follow the NBE in its early days. But Val did an amazing job re-building this conference to the top tier league we have today. Keep in mind the Big East was left for dead. No one thought this league was going to thrive. Under her direction the league has excelled the past decade. So, lets give some credit where credit is due
 
Big East opened for business in 1979. Penn St accepted Big Ten offer in 1990, began competing in 1993. Urban myth goes that Joe Pa and PSU wanted into the BE but Gavitt and friends said thanks but no thanks. The scenario below easily could have evolved if the Catholics weren’t afraid of Football. Heck, maybe NovaCats may have moved up in FB.

No one that went to Penn State considers it Midwest. That is why there was twenty plus years of discontent before other Eastern Schools started being added. In a perfect world Penn State would be in a real Big East Conference with other bell cows like Miami and ND who also might not “geographically” be NE but identify with it far more than they do the Midwest or Deep South.

Big East 2025

BC
UConn
Cuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
WVU
VPI
ND
Navy
USF
Miami

Multiple historic rivalries and blood feuds up and down the lineup. Add St John’s, Nova, Providence, and Gtown as Non Football Members to flesh out the basketball season. Plenty of easy road trips and plenty of overlap between fan bases. This would make tons of money and be a heck of a lot of fun therefore it will never happen.
 
Big East opened for business in 1979. Penn St accepted Big Ten offer in 1990, began competing in 1993. Urban myth goes that Joe Pa and PSU wanted into the BE but Gavitt and friends said thanks but no thanks. The scenario below easily could have evolved if the Catholics weren’t afraid of Football. Heck, maybe NovaCats may have moved up in FB.
It wasn't a myth.
 
Big East opened for business in 1979. Penn St accepted Big Ten offer in 1990, began competing in 1993. Urban myth goes that Joe Pa and PSU wanted into the BE but Gavitt and friends said thanks but no thanks. The scenario below easily could have evolved if the Catholics weren’t afraid of Football. Heck, maybe NovaCats may have moved up in FB.
This would have, in all likelihood, stabilized the big east, but even beyond that, I think it had the potential to stabilize conference realignment in general. Penn State to the Big Ten was one of the early pebbles that started the conference realignment avalanche.
 
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This would have, in all likelihood, stabilized the big east, but even beyond that, I think it had the potential to stabilize conference realignment in general. Penn State to the Big Ten was one of the early pebbles that started the conference realignment avalanche.
One part of this equation that escapes most is that even if PSU did get the vote (*), PSU still would have received an invitation from the B10 when they did and they would have accepted.

It wasn't until PSU left independent football (eastern independents) that other schools panicked and decided to put together what became the BE football conference.

(*) - Gavitt flipped a couple schools very late in the process. PSU was told they had the votes before the official vote took place (they did).
 
Central PA may not feel like the Northeast, but that doesn't mean Penn State isn't a Northeast school. In my opinion, the number of students, alums and fans in eastern PA, NJ, NY and even CT, makes Penn State a Northeast school.
If they aren't part of the Northeast, they need to return 35 Lambert Trophies.

I forgot UConn won in in 2010!
 
One part of this equation that escapes most is that even if PSU did get the vote (*), PSU still would have received an invitation from the B10 when they did and they would have accepted.
I don't know. PSU was low hanging fruit as an independent and the Big Ten wasn't as dominant as they are now. You may be right, but I'm not sure about it.
 
Big East opened for business in 1979. Penn St accepted Big Ten offer in 1990, began competing in 1993. Urban myth goes that Joe Pa and PSU wanted into the BE but Gavitt and friends said thanks but no thanks. The scenario below easily could have evolved if the Catholics weren’t afraid of Football. Heck, maybe NovaCats may have moved up in FB.

That’s not a myth. Mike Tranghese said that the Big East would rue the day hit didn’t let Penn. Stste.

I still maintain that PSU football is a disgrace that shouldn’t exist, but that was a pretty poor decision still.
 
I don't see how maintaining relationships with Seton Hall and Providence would have been sufficient in keeping PSU out of the Big 10.

Football was independent at that time and football was the driving factor in the Big 10 wanting PSU. Ohio St won a national title in 1968. After that the champions were Texas, Nebraska, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Pitt, Notre Dame, Alabama, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Penn St, Miami, BYU, Oklahoma, Penn St, Miami, Notre Dame, Miami.

Ohio St was #1 going into the 71 (1970 season) Rose Bowl but lost (Jim Plunkett's Stanford). No Big 10 school entered bowl season with a realistic shot at winning the title over the subsequent two decades while Penn St won two titles, twice went into their bowl game in a one vs two matchup and in 1969 would have had a reasonable shot if then President Nixon hadn't declared the winner of Texas-Arkansas as the national champion, allowing the Cotton Bowl (which the SWC controlled) to not invite Penn St as the SWC champion's opponent.

The methodology of selecting a champion in those days can easily be debated, but Penn St clearly exceeded the entirety of the Big 10 over that time frame in terms of being within striking distance of national titles.
 
Heck, maybe NovaCats may have moved up in FB.
That is also the timeframe where Villanova discontinued their football program (before bringing it back in Division 1-AA)
 
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