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Val Ackerman Retires

UConn fans full of hot takes.

Tell me you didn't follow BE basketball before you rejoined the core BE, without telling me you didn't pay attention to BE basketball. Val saved and the BE thrived post reformation thanks to her leadership. You're all blinded by a few down years since you joined.
 
YES...It is about time for a party. Enjoy and do not let the door hit you in the bum on the way out. Who will miss her less Chief00 or me and most coaches in mens' hoops.
HOORAY
 
UConn fans full of hot takes.

Tell me you didn't follow BE basketball before you rejoined the core BE, without telling me you didn't pay attention to BE basketball. Val saved and the BE thrived post reformation thanks to her leadership. You're all blinded by a few down years since you joined.
Maybe worry about being relevant again before posting on the UConn board. You’re welcome for the tournament revenue year in and year out
 
Maybe worry about being relevant again before posting on the UConn board. You’re welcome for the tournament revenue year in and year out


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Is it OK if I just tell you straight out? Other than watching nova's runs I didn't give two about big east basketball.

Given how the BE breakup went and the purgatory UConn ended up in, I actually find this pretty reasonable. (that's not a slight against you or UConn)
 
In all candor the post breakup BE thrived because of Nova (or more specifically Jay Wright).

If you were to look at the then conference as a whole and replace Villanova with a second Marquette, Creighton or whoever, the result would be a hair better than a mid-major. I'll even go so far as to claim a significant contributing factor to the conference as a whole receiving so little respect since Jay retired is that Nova basically fell off the map after he retired and all goodwill built during his tenure dissipated almost immediately.

During a span where quite a few schools that nobody would have expected ended up in the final four; South Carolina, Loyola of Chicago, Texas Tech, Florida Atlantic, Miami Fl, San Diego St, NC State, even Syracuse as a ten seed and UCLA as an eleven seed made it to the final four but no BE school other than Villanova under Jay Wright and UConn under Dan Hurley was able to get that far.

I don't believe getting that far is easy, but the fact remains that quite a few schools from other power conferences have made it along with a few from lower conferences. The BE is going to need to consistently have a few schools each year capable of making deep runs (something close to what we did in 2023, even if the national championship were to be replaced with a regional final team).

Many BE fans like to claim that the conference as a whole is equal to at least a couple of the power conferences but the reality is that since the split the conference has never has had close to the depth that the power conferences have had.
 
Given how the BE breakup went and the purgatory UConn ended up in, I actually find this pretty reasonable. (that's not a slight against you or UConn)
Thank you, I guess.

The C7 was largely irrelevant once they screwed everyone over and quit the conference after tanking the ESPN deal. Again, with the exception of Villanova, who obviously was worth watching.
 
I’d be careful what you wish for. Larry Scott came in as a maverick and wheeled and dealed the Pac-12 Conference to it's demise
 
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In all candor the post breakup BE thrived because of Nova (or more specifically Jay Wright).

If you were to look at the then conference as a whole and replace Villanova with a second Marquette, Creighton or whoever, the result would be a hair better than a mid-major. I'll even go so far as to claim a significant contributing factor to the conference as a whole receiving so little respect since Jay retired is that Nova basically fell off the map after he retired and all goodwill built during his tenure dissipated almost immediately.

During a span where quite a few schools that nobody would have expected ended up in the final four; South Carolina, Loyola of Chicago, Texas Tech, Florida Atlantic, Miami Fl, San Diego St, NC State, even Syracuse as a ten seed and UCLA as an eleven seed made it to the final four but no BE school other than Villanova under Jay Wright and UConn under Dan Hurley was able to get that far.

I don't believe getting that far is easy, but the fact remains that quite a few schools from other power conferences have made it along with a few from lower conferences. The BE is going to need to consistently have a few schools each year capable of making deep runs (something close to what we did in 2023, even if the national championship were to be replaced with a regional final team).

Many BE fans like to claim that the conference as a whole is equal to at least a couple of the power conferences but the reality is that since the split the conference has never has had close to the depth that the power conferences have had.

I don't fully disagree with any particular statement here, but during that time the league also had a lot of parity. This was a worst case scenario for the conference because it destroyed many seedings beyond Nova and say like the occasional breakout year of any particular team (see X in 2017 for example). So we could get 5 or 6 teams out of 10 in, but the conf was such a bloodbath that the seedings were um... less than ideal. On top of that you had a lower volume of teams overall as well, which didn't help.

End of the day, all you can do set the conf up to get as many teams into the NCAAT as possible with as high of seeds as you can, and let the chips fall from there. The conf did pretty good for their part of that during that time.
 
UConn fans full of hot takes.

Tell me you didn't follow BE basketball before you rejoined the core BE, without telling me you didn't pay attention to BE basketball. Val saved and the BE thrived post reformation thanks to her leadership. You're all blinded by a few down years since you joined.
That's great and all, but any competent commissioner would have also made the same moves.
 
Thank you, I guess.

The C7 was largely irrelevant once they screwed everyone over and quit the conference after tanking the ESPN deal. Again, with the exception of Villanova, who obviously was worth watching.
Thought Georgetown was the outlier and voted to keep the three non Catholic schools. Also thought that the school that chaired the BE was Pitt and they vetoed the contract two weeks before Pitt announced they were leaving for the ACC.
 
As a commissioner, she was ass.

Everyone who is lecturing on us about what she did prior to 2019 can pound sand because the woman hasn’t done a blessed thing since other than dash off a memo to the Tournament committee that they didn’t read and send some of our money to the be nice to officials grift.

Big East needed a war time consigliere and we got a wine mom sitting in her beach house knitting cozies for her pugs.
 
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As a commissioner, she was ass.

Everyone who is lecturing on us about what she did prior to 2019 can pound sand because the woman hasn’t done a blessed thing since other than dash off a memo to the Tournament committee that they didn’t read and send some of our money to the be nice to officials grift.

Big East needed a war time consigliere and we got a wine mom sitting in her beach house knitting cozies for her pugs.

She brought in UConn, didn't she? Credit where credit is due!
 
UConn fans full of hot takes.

Tell me you didn't follow BE basketball before you rejoined the core BE, without telling me you didn't pay attention to BE basketball. Val saved and the BE thrived post reformation thanks to her leadership. You're all blinded by a few down years since you joined.
Jay Wright saved the league and other programs like Xavier and Creighton stepped up.

I have no bad feelings towards her but she was a horrible commissioner.
 
I’d be careful what you wish for. Larry Scott came in as a maverick and wheeled and dealed the Pac-12 Conference to it's demise
Just buy way of reference, the Pac 12 pretty much has the same media distribution deal that we do with worse exposure.
 
Jay Wright saved the league and other programs like Xavier and Creighton stepped up.

I have no bad feelings towards her but she was a horrible commissioner.

Jay Wright no doubt played a big role, but he didn't secure the brand and history of the BE, move the HQ, save the MSG deal, bring UConn back to where it belongs, optimize the additions (+X, Creighton, even Butler - no go on SLU, Dayton for example), negotiate a deal with FOX that doubled the ESPN deal, etc.
 
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Jay Wright no doubt played a big role, but he didn't secure the brand and history of the BE, move the HQ, save the MSG deal, bring UConn back to where it belongs, optimize the additions (+X, Creighton, even Butler - no go on SLU, Dayton for example), negotiate a deal with FOX that doubled the ESPN deal, etc.
Why are you here?
 
Jay Wright no doubt played a big role, but he didn't secure the brand and history of the BE, move the HQ, save the MSG deal, bring UConn back to where it belongs, optimize the additions (+X, Creighton, even Butler - no go on SLU, Dayton for example), negotiate a deal with FOX that doubled the ESPN deal, etc.

Moving the HQ to NYC did what exactly?

And MSG would have went to any power league had they agreed to play there on a more frequent basis as opposed to a one of on the rotation.
 
In all candor the post breakup BE thrived because of Nova (or more specifically Jay Wright).

If you were to look at the then conference as a whole and replace Villanova with a second Marquette, Creighton or whoever, the result would be a hair better than a mid-major. I'll even go so far as to claim a significant contributing factor to the conference as a whole receiving so little respect since Jay retired is that Nova basically fell off the map after he retired and all goodwill built during his tenure dissipated almost immediately.

During a span where quite a few schools that nobody would have expected ended up in the final four; South Carolina, Loyola of Chicago, Texas Tech, Florida Atlantic, Miami Fl, San Diego St, NC State, even Syracuse as a ten seed and UCLA as an eleven seed made it to the final four but no BE school other than Villanova under Jay Wright and UConn under Dan Hurley was able to get that far.

I don't believe getting that far is easy, but the fact remains that quite a few schools from other power conferences have made it along with a few from lower conferences. The BE is going to need to consistently have a few schools each year capable of making deep runs (something close to what we did in 2023, even if the national championship were to be replaced with a regional final team).

Many BE fans like to claim that the conference as a whole is equal to at least a couple of the power conferences but the reality is that since the split the conference has never has had close to the depth that the power conferences have had.
And if… always the ifs. Doesn’t matter. What matters is what did happen.
 
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