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Val Ackerman Retires

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MU in MKE said:
Yeah, but it didn't occupy me nearly as much this afternoon since the majority of their perspectives are in alignment with my own...

Have at 'em! https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=67802.0
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Thanks that was interesting. I found the post noting that the original Big East school members don't think well of her particularly insightful. If your history is the Midwestern Collegiate Conference, the Great Midwestern Conference, Conference USA, and then the Big East, I could understand how the Big East under Val seems big time. Relatively speaking, it is.
 
CL82 said:
My short list of interview questions for the Big East commissioner candidates:

"If you were to be hired, how long would it take until you fire James Breeding?
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That would be an interesting story, not only how he was retained by an incompetent Commissioner but given high ratings despite a disastrous performance.
 
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The reality is how St John’s President Shanley will lead the search committee, that will hire the search firm, etc. Who does Pitino directly report to?
 
businesslawyer said:
They shouldn’t. And they won’t. I don’t believe the central office has anything to do with the way the refs call our games — we make the league too much money to want to harm our basketball product — but they are not going to favor us over the other members who they count on staying there.
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Certain refs have a personal thing with Hurley and her management oversight was inept and she lost control of that mess instead of stamping it out. The NC game is testimony to how far off the rails it got, Breeding put in one of the worst ref performances ever in the F4, but not much different than any other UConn game he did.
 
CL82 said:
Thanks that was interesting. I found the post noting that the original Big East school members don't think well of her particularly insightful. If your history is the Midwestern Collegiate Conference, the Great Midwestern Conference, Conference USA, and then the Big East, I could understand how the Big East under Val seems big time. Relatively speaking, it is.
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From what I've seen, it's really just UConn that feel that way. Along with some of the Friar wackos. But that by itself should tell you something.

But yeah, the Big East under Val seems more big time in basketball than the AAC. But hey, maybe I'm wrong and we should have stayed under Aresco, since that worked out so well.
 
MU in MKE said:
From what I've seen, it's really just UConn that feel that way. Along with some of the Friar wackos. But that by itself should tell you something.



But yeah, the Big East under Val seems more big time in basketball than the AAC. But hey, maybe I'm wrong and we should have stayed under Aresco, since that worked out so well.
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Lol, you say you come over here to hear a difference of opinion, but you sure sound butt hurt when you do hear it.
Teams in the Big East are averaging about $5 million in distributions? That's $.10 on the dollar of the distributions in the worst two of the P4. Personally, I prefer the big east to the American, especially what's left of the American, but even that depleted American is going to institute a minimum $10 million per school distribution, double what schools earn in the big east.

I don't think Aresco was a particularly good commissioner. I don't think Val was a particularly good commissioner. Both of those things can be true at the same time.

In the meantime, you are benefiting from UConn in your conference, both financially and in perception of the conference as a whole. Maybe when you stop by the board, you should, oh I don't know, try to troll us less and say thank you more? Just a thought.
 
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CL82 said:
Lol, you say you come over here to hear a difference of opinion, but you sure sound butt hurt when you do hear it.
Teams in the Big East are averaging about $5 million in distributions? That's $.10 on the dollar of the distributions in the worst two of the P4. Personally, I prefer the big east to the American, especially what's left of the American, but even that depleted American is going to institute a minimum $10 million per school distribution, double what schools earn in the big east.

I don't think Aresco was a particularly good commissioner. I don't think Val was a particularly good commissioner. Both of those things can be true at the same time.

In the meantime, you are benefiting from UConn in your conference, both financially and in perception of the conference as a whole. Maybe when you stop by the board, you should, oh I don't know, try to troll us less and say thank you more? Just a thought.
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RashadRay11 said:
Any BE commissioner with a brain would bring in UConn. We are far and away the largest brand, a founding member, had four titles before re-joining, and have strangle holds on the NY and Boston markets.

Val doesn’t get credit for that.
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Alright, so just to be clear, saying the BE is successful given the hand it was dealt, expressing appreciation that Val brought UConn back on board, and appreciating all the maneuvering done by her and other leadership after the conf was ripped apart by those who could care less about either UConn or Marquette is all it takes to troll you two?

Interesting...

Although regarding the $$, I'll just point out that if UConn dropped the feeble football program, it wouldn't need all that extra cash the other power conferences get and can focus its revenue on the sports that actually matter to the school 😉
 
CL82 said:
Lol, you say you come over here to hear a difference of opinion, but you sure sound butt hurt when you do hear it.
Teams in the Big East are averaging about $5 million in distributions? That's $.10 on the dollar of the distributions in the worst two of the P4. Personally, I prefer the big east to the American, especially what's left of the American, but even that depleted American is going to institute a minimum $10 million per school distribution, double what schools earn in the big east.

I don't think Aresco was a particularly good commissioner. I don't think Val was a particularly good commissioner. Both of those things can be true at the same time.

In the meantime, you are benefiting from UConn in your conference, both financially and in perception of the conference as a whole. Maybe when you stop by the board, you should, oh I don't know, try to troll us less and say thank you more? Just a thought.
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UConn is going to make less money in our tv contract as a Big East member than we would have made as an independent basketball team with our earned NCAA credits. Let that sink in...
 
MU in MKE said:
Alright, so just to be clear, saying the BE is successful given the hand it was dealt, expressing appreciation that Val brought UConn back on board, and appreciating all the maneuvering done by her and other leadership after the conf was ripped apart by those who could care less about either UConn or Marquette is all it takes to troll you two?

Interesting...

Although regarding the $$, I'll just point out that if UConn dropped the feeble football program, it wouldn't need all that extra cash the other power conferences get and can focus its revenue on the sports that actually matter to the school 😉
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Tell me you root for a small time athletic department without telling me you root for a small time athletic department.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
UConn is going to make less money in our tv contract as a Big East member than we would have made as an independent basketball team with our earned NCAA credits. Let that sink in...
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We wouldn't have made it to the tournament as an independent. I don't think you understand independence in Basketball doesn't exist
 
CL82 said:
Lol, you say you come over here to hear a difference of opinion, but you sure sound butt hurt when you do hear it.
Teams in the Big East are averaging about $5 million in distributions? That's $.10 on the dollar of the distributions in the worst two of the P4. Personally, I prefer the big east to the American, especially what's left of the American, but even that depleted American is going to institute a minimum $10 million per school distribution, double what schools earn in the big east.

I don't think Aresco was a particularly good commissioner. I don't think Val was a particularly good commissioner. Both of those things can be true at the same time.

In the meantime, you are benefiting from UConn in your conference, both financially and in perception of the conference as a whole. Maybe when you stop by the board, you should, oh I don't know, try to troll us less and say thank you more? Just a thought.
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How is the American getting 10m per school?
 
UConnDan97 said:
UConn is going to make less money in our tv contract as a Big East member than we would have made as an independent basketball team with our earned NCAA credits. Let that sink in...
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Then why on earth are you here? You need to get this high end intel to your president immediately. I love coming here to relearn where basketball and the BE were invented.
 
Her greatest accomplishment was getting UConn back into the Big East

The conference has notoriously bad officiating, especially towards their bread winner

The conference gets screwed in the selection process, even losing out to the Mountain West in some seasons

The conference gets screwed in seedings

The conference even gets screwed by having it's two best programs in the same region in 2026

WHAT ABOUT ANY OF THAT MAKES ANYONE THINK SHE'S A STRONG LEADER? She was a doormat. She was walked over

Then she compounds all of the above by enabling James Breeding to represent the Big East in the dance where he gets the chance to influence the outcome of the championship game, against the Big East

She can't leave fast enough
 
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FriarJ said:
Then why on earth are you here? You need to get this high end intel to your president immediately. I love coming here to relearn where basketball and the BE were invented.
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Isn’t that called dementia? Having to relearn those things so often?
 
How Sway?! said:
We wouldn't have made it to the tournament as an independent. I don't think you understand independence in Basketball doesn't exist
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I do understand it. We wouldn't be able to form a schedule without a conference. My point still stands. We earned more money for the other members of the conference (around 18 million) than we did for ourselves with our Big East tv contract for all sports (8 million)...
 
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willie99 said:
Her greatest accomplishment was getting UConn back into the Big East

The conference has notoriously bad officiating, especially towards their bread winner

The conference gets screwed in the selection process, even losing out to the Mountain West in some seasons

The conference gets screwed in seedings

The conference even gets screwed by having it's two best programs in the same region in 2026

WHAT ABOUT ANY OF THAT MAKES ANYONE THINK SHE'S A STRONG LEADER? She was a doormat. She was walked over

Then she compounds all of the above by enabling James Breeding to represent the Big East in the dance where he gets the chance to influence the outcome of the championship game, against the Big East

She can't leave fast enough
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THIS!
 
MU in MKE said:
Alright, so just to be clear, saying the BE is successful given the hand it was dealt, expressing appreciation that Val brought UConn back on board, and appreciating all the maneuvering done by her and other leadership after the conf was ripped apart by those who could care less about either UConn or Marquette is all it takes to troll you two?

Interesting...

Although regarding the $$, I'll just point out that if UConn dropped the feeble football program, it wouldn't need all that extra cash the other power conferences get and can focus its revenue on the sports that actually matter to the school 😉
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This board welcomes people of different viewpoints. We don't even actually mind trolls when they are at least interesting or funny. You're kind of failing on both counts.

I find it comical that your compliment of Val is "she brought UConn back." Lol, that kind of sounds like a tacit acknowledgment that the only thing that's good in the big east is the University of Connecticut.

I also find it keep that you somehow think that colleges being "basketball only" means that they will be exempt from the ever escalating cost of college athletics. It doesn't. If you're paying attention at all to the portal market right now you should realize that. $5 million doesn't let you field a team. Think about that. The entire average big east payout isn't enough to field a single men's basketball team. It's pretty tough to take a victory lap about that.

"But, but, but the big east won two of the last four national championships....."Yep, I know. As long as UConn is in the big east, the conference will be relevant. Again, a thank you for that isn't necessary, but it would be good manners.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
I do understand it. We wouldn't be able to form a schedule with a conference. My point still stands. We earned more money for the other members of the conference (around 18 million) than we did for ourselves with our Big East tv contract for all sports (8 million)...
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You do know that most of the tournament units are sent back to us right?
 
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