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Urban Meyer Suspended 3 Games For Role In Zach Smith Domestic Violence Probe

Chief00 said:
On known facts, basically Urban should have been cleared but politics plays a role and that’s why I predicted up to a 4 game suspension. He was suspended 3 games, in the mid range of my prediction.
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You really should see if you can get them to sponsor your posts on here...
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JMick said:
wow.
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What do you want him to say - she called the cops 9 times and the only charge after the prosecutors reviewed the evidence including texts - is that the kids were dropped off in the driveway rather than the curb - criminal trespass. That cost the father of those kids a good paying job.
Since I have some connections in Ohio let me suggest there was more going on here than has been made public. His Ex’s boyfriend was living with her and that opened up the door about risk of alimony reduction. Follow the money is so often the case not the sacrimonious stuff the usual crowd on this forum preach or fall for.
 
gioff23 said:
There’s always this -tOSU core values read

Central to how we carry out our mission and vision are our core values: excellence, collaborating as one university, integrity and personal accountability, openness and trust, diversity in people and ideas, changeand innovation, simplicity in our work, empathy and compassion, and leadership.

Maybe they should have read this or rewritten it as they come up woefully short. Another example of an academic institution failing to understand its purpose or reason for being.
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Chief00 said:
What do you want him to say - she called the cops 9 times and the only charge after the prosecutors reviewed the evidence including texts - is that the kids were dropped off in the driveway rather than the curb - criminal trespass. That cost the father of those kids a good paying job.
Since I have some connections in Ohio let me suggest there was more going on here than has been made public. His Ex’s boyfriend was living with her and that opened up the door about risk of alimony reduction. Follow the money is so often the case not the sacrimonious stuff the usual crowd on this forum preach or fall for.
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wow.
 
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uconnphil2016 said:
Kids at UNC got in worse trouble for selling a pair of Jordans...let that sink in.
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I've seen a bunch of people say this and I'm still not sure how these events are related to one another.

I'm slightly torn on this topic. Urban has handled this situation in an objectively terrible way. Blowing the protocol on something like this is bad enough as it is. Schools go out of their way to make the responsibilities of a coach abundantly clear on matters pertaining to domestic violence. He very likely knew this and abused his power to help a friend.

But there seems to be more going on here than the media will allow for. My initial reaction to the press conference was that Urban's just arrogant , but in hindsight, the utter contempt he seems to have for the victim, as suggested by his answers, makes me wonder. It had the feel of a guy fighting a battle with his hands tied behind his back. I don't offer that as an excuse so much as an observation; he seemed to feel genuinely wronged by the whole thing, and while he might be out-of-touch, his demeanor throughout this saga has never really been consistent with someone who's trying to hide something.

We still don't know exactly what he knew and when. It's easy for us to say he should have fired Zach Smith. It's probably harder when you have a preexisting relationship with that person - people are predisposed to believe people they know, and that becomes especially so when you're exposed to his side of the story everyday. People underestimate this bias when they draw sweeping conclusions about a person's motives. Easier to be manipulated by somebody you have to look straight in the eye.

Reporting mandates can be somewhat flimsy. They're supposed to protect people from their own judgement, but that invariably becomes impossible when you're weighing the validity of allegations that have already been vetted by law enforcement.

The fact that domestic violence charges are so hard to file makes this even trickier. It's not much of a stretch to think that a football coach might conflate the lack of an arrest with innocence. To the extent that an independent panel never had the chance to examine the evidence is largely Meyer's fault, and if you think he should lose his job for that, I will not argue. However, I can empathize with someone facing a predicament that forces them to choose between loyalty and PR, especially when you're leaving yourself open to remorse either way. I think it's OK to demand better from the people involved here without losing sight of the fact that this wasn't a capital crime. The grandstanding from the usual suspects in the media is just a bit much - we can acknowledge our country's domestic violence problem without turning our football coaches into first responders. I feel the same way about criticizing coaches for things that their players do - at the end of the day these are adults that should be judged independent of whoever they may associate with.
 
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Chief00 said:
Jimmy, do you need some smelling salts or something? While many said he would be fired I said he would be suspended 0-4 games and he was suspended 3 games. How’s that less than stellar?
In the real World it was very accurate. I have to laugh at the posters who get caught up in some movement rather than the facts.
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Nobody’s talking about your prediction. You keep apologizing for these lowlifes. It’s really weird.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Nobody’s talking about your prediction. You keep apologizing for these lowlifes. It’s really weird.
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All I am saying is her allegations were investigated by police and reviewed by prosecutors and it was determine there wasn’t a basis for the case that you are convinced happened. Instead you are relaying on sports reporters for obtaining your conclusions. Who’s weird here?

I am not making any claims for who’s a good person or not. Just following the allegations of spousal abuse. Spousal abuse is a terrible thing - there is no question about that. But, what we are debating is the evidence that it happen in this case?
 
It is a “partial suspension”. He misses games but can still coach during the week. LOL.
 
The NFL had less on Tom Brady.

I'm half thinking that the AAC is not a half bad affiliation...(then the TV contract gets renewed for comparative peanuts, and I feel like tihs again.).
 
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"All I am saying is ..."

"It is a “partial suspension”. He misses games but can still coach during the week."


"Less is more" for $500 Alex :rolleyes:

"What is utter BS?"
 
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